[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19754100]Except nobody ever learned how to speak a foreign language in those classes.[/QUOTE]
They might not have learned, but if they went on with it, they sure got a head start on one.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19754100]Except nobody ever learned how to speak a foreign language in those classes.[/QUOTE]
Hola, ?Como te llama?
The biggest problem with the education system is that it's outdated and built for an older generation. Let's face it, we don't need to retain all the information school was designed for these days. We have endless databases of the whole of mankind's knowledge right here: The Internet. If you don't know something now, you google it. If you didn't know something 30 years ago, you better find someone who went to school and learned it, or go to the library, or go to school for it. We need to redesign the education system to support the modern age.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;19754145]Hola, ?Como te llama?[/QUOTE]
!Hola! me llamo OvB.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;19754145]Hola, ?Como te llama?[/QUOTE]
Jund. ¿Y tú?
[QUOTE=yuki;19754183]The biggest problem with the education system is that it's outdated and built for an older generation. Let's face it, we don't need to retain all the information school was designed for these days. We have endless databases of the whole of mankind's knowledge right here: The Internet. If you don't know something now, you google it. If you didn't know something 30 years ago, you better find someone who went to school and learned it, or go to the library, or go to school for it. We need to redesign the education system to support the modern age.[/QUOTE]
this
[QUOTE=yuki;19754183]The biggest problem with the education system is that it's outdated and built for an older generation. Let's face it, we don't need to retain all the information school was designed for these days. We have endless databases of the whole of mankind's knowledge right here: The Internet. If you don't know something now, you google it. If you didn't know something 30 years ago, you better find someone who went to school and learned it, or go to the library, or go to school for it. We need to redesign the education system to support the modern age.[/QUOTE]
Freakin agree. I learn a lot more surfing on Wikipedia for 30 minutes as opposed to going to class for 1 hour.
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;19753516]
[B]PART III - THE PASS/FAIL TECHNIQUE[/B]
In school in America, you get your letter grades: A, B, C, D, E, F. Over in Europe, you have your number grades: one through six. Fine, fine. This is not efficient, though. Why? There's too much competition. School should be based on whether or not you passed or failed. No more of this "You have a 75%, you have a C. Bring it up or you'll fail," bullshit. Either you do your work and at least show effort and you pass, or you slack off and fail. Tests hould remain the same letter/number grades. If you do fail, don't worry, you can just redo the work and you pass. End of story. The letter/number grading system is putting stress on people, especially before final exams or after report cards come out. The first three (A, B, C | 6, 5, 4) is a pass. The last three (D, E, F | 3, 2, 1) is a fail. Makes sense, doesn't it? I think so. This can improve our grades. No more "I have an 89%, is that an A or a B," you can just say "I passed." Easy for you, easy for me, easy for the teachers and college admissions people. We all go home happy.
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Thing is, a lot of universities have prerequisites, as in, certain average or certain grades in general to prove that you're up to snuff and ready for university in general. If it's a pass/fail technique, how can you tell who barely made it by and who's at the top of their class?
You should be in Honors classes.
[QUOTE=Bran;19754299]Thing is, a lot of universities have prerequisites, as in, certain average or certain grades in general to prove that you're up to snuff and ready for university in general. If it's a pass/fail technique, how can you tell who barely made it by and who's at the top of their class?[/QUOTE]
You keep the percentages. In an interim report, we get our current letter grade and the percentage. For example, 85% (B) is the equivalent to 85% (Pass). If you fail (say it's a 67% (D)), then the grade says 67% (Fail). You see where I'm going here?
[QUOTE=Shankinator;19754382]You should be in Honors classes.[/QUOTE]
here they're 95% the same as normal, with the difference being a few extra assignments, which don't really teach you much at all.
Honors provide free college credits, which is good to take advantage off. I know people who knocked off a whole semester of school because of honors programs.
Deep. But I'd rather do the best with what I'm given than languish and bitch as I ruin my future prospects for a somewhat successful life.
Before you go off on me, I have to say I once acted in much the same way-- although I'd rather attribute it to demotivation than displeasure with the system. I wasted two years not caring when I was perfectly capable of hitting straight 4.0s. What you really need to realize is that, no matter how retarded or pointless you happen to think the system is, it still matters.
"Education is bad"
wat
[QUOTE=Soviet Beef;19753519]school is dumb[/QUOTE]
uhhm, /thread ?
You're complaining about how you have to take more classes in school. I have the opposite problem. There are so many skills that would be useful for me in college (cad, c++ [or another programming language], more physics, ect) but my school does not offer this. As a senior this is my first year taking physics, I wish I had been able to take this sophomore year. Math seems like it should teach more useful things; precalc and algebra two were basically the triangles section of geometry plus some more algebra. AP Chemistry I'll probably use in the future and the only reason I'm taking AP English is because there was no honors English and it will be nice if I can test out of English in college. I think that High Schools should become more like college and teach more things relating to what the student will want to know in their life (in my case this is engineering). I learn so much in robotics...
I just can't compile my argument into a coherent argument because it's one massive block of text with a bunch of incomprehensible bullshit arguments thrown in.
I think each class should overall be a pass or fail. Whereas we keep the tests being a letter grade scale. The tests show the individuals proficiency at the subject. The Pass/Fail shows whether they passed or failed the class of course. Homework is not incorporated into any grading, it is only a factor in whether you pass or fail.'
Also there needs to be serious changes in the teaching workforce. Teachers need to be of better quality. I am a pretty smart person, but I do bad when I get stuck with shitty teachers that couldn't even teach their dog to how sit, let alone teach an entire class of human beings how to fucking do math competently. The quality of some teachers is absolutely appalling sometimes
[QUOTE=OvB;19754197]!Hola! me llamo OvB.[/QUOTE]
No hable espanol, hable englies por favor?
Guess whos failing spanish...
I don't know about where you live, but the schools here in MA are fine. They have AP classes for students who actually care, down to Cp2 for those who do not (AP, Honors, Cp1, Cp2). The state as a whole beats the national average on standardized tests (AP tests, SAT I and SAT II).
wah
[QUOTE=evilweazel;19754870]No hable espanol, hable englies por favor?
Guess whos failing spanish...[/QUOTE]
No hablo español, habla ingés por favor.
You are.
[QUOTE=Shugo589;19753939]You're doing really well yourself, aren't you? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Kiss my frozen Maine hands :C
[QUOTE=MR-X;19753737]I hate the education system too.
My main problem with it is most schools rather spend funding on sports rather then text books and classes. I've been to several high school due to the fact I've moved a lot (military). And that has been the case for almost all of them, for example my English teachers had to spend their own money because the school wouldn't buy them the books for their courses. Sports are great, but it shouldn't be the focus of schools.
Second problem is school kill creativity, we're thought to be right all the time and fear being wrong. We're only told the things we need to know for a test and nothing else. I'm a personal believer in success is great, but there is much more to learn from failure. Failure isn't a weakness in less you allow it too.
And last schools compete with each other too much and the students are the ones suffering, all these state assessments that students have to take and pass for the schools to get proper funding is the main reason for a lot of this. And a lot of the teachers attitudes i've seen are a "I don't give a fuck" attitude which in return the students don't care.
School system needs to be fucking revised.[/QUOTE]
this post would make a better op than the current one
School is unoptimized.
[QUOTE=Jund;19754205]Jund. ¿Y tú?[/QUOTE]
Mi llamo Zombiefreak. ¿Que Tal?
My cousin was grounded by her mom once because she got a B.
This is where your suggestion in Part II would work well.
