Is it weird to be more moved by the deaths of non-humans in films?
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You can feel emotions to an emotionless being.
Fuck no.... Most dogs have more courage then people and die for their master. E.g I am legend dog.
Guess I'm late so :dance:
I wonder if part of it may be that if you see Tom Cruise die in a movie, you'll go home and see him at some red carpet event. With animal characters/animated characters... seeing them die is really the end of them for you.
The Plague Dogs anyone? Motherfucking ending.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;34243612]District 9 does a brilliant job of portraying this foreign alien creatures as living, breathing, respectable life. I felt horrible when the prawn were killed[/QUOTE]
I actually think one of the reasons District 9 didn't work for me was because of how those things looked. I couldn't even read their fucking expressions. Yeah, I felt bad for them because of what was being done, but it was hard to feel sorry for individual prawns because they looked nasty as hell.
But something like a dog or other fuzzy animal is easy to love and care for because they are cute and cuddly and pleasant to look at.
On the show Prison break (awesome show by the way) there's a guy who has a cat as a pet in prison. Everyone thinks the guys D.B cooper, but he denies it (It ends up he is D.B cooper). Anyway, in a prison riot, a guard was killed by a guy called T-Bag, who is a child rapist/murderer. Everyone is to afraid to say anything since T-bag is the so called "leader" of the gang of whites. One of the guards is troubled by the death of his friend because they knew each other since they were 18, so the guard asks D.B cooper (who had seen that T-bag kill the guard) who was the one that murdered the guard. D.B cooper refuses to snitch, and so, the guard kills his cat by poisoning it. The look on his face when he walked into his cell and found his cat murdered made me so sad. The guy had the cat forever and it was his best friend.
[QUOTE=rosthouse;34241156]It's all about the portrayal. For example, the guy getting eaten by the T-Rex in Jurassic Park? Couldn't stop laughing. Yet when Goose died in Top Gun, that's a pretty moving scene.
However, one thing always brings me to tears:
[IMG]http://chan.catiewayne.com/c/src/132036215932.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's pretty right. I think the events and character build up surrounding the death are far more important than the way someone dies. I find Shawshank Redemption to be proper tragic, although the characters in that must have been absolute shits, seeing as how some of them were in prison for decades. Despite that though, I still really felt for them.
Also, on the Futurama front, I always found the one where they go to find Fry's seven leaf clover to be more moving than that episode. Whilst that one's pretty tragic, I always proper choked up loads in the clover episode.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;34257264]I actually think one of the reasons District 9 didn't work for me was because of how those things looked. I couldn't even read their fucking expressions. Yeah, I felt bad for them because of what was being done, but it was hard to feel sorry for individual prawns because they looked nasty as hell.
But something like a dog or other fuzzy animal is easy to love and care for because they are cute and cuddly and pleasant to look at.[/QUOTE]
Arthropods don't really have faces, can't tell at all if they're feeling pain or if their scared.
I think we may be screwed if the first alien life we come across are arthropod-like creatures
I don't care if humans, robots or animals die, except for dogs.
Goddamnit I am Legend
I almost cried watching futurama, I was watching that episode where the dog waited for fry for years and eventually died, especially at the moment when they put that "we'll meet again" song.
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How did I ninja'd!
[QUOTE=Falchion;34240301]When you start being not moved by death, that is when you should get worried.[/QUOTE]
This applies to death in fictional media? If so, I feel completely apathetic for some reason.
I feel the same way for animated characters that portray humans as well, you know? A great example is Isaac in The Binding of Isaac, especially when he has the flashback of being locked in the chest, poor little guy. :(
[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;34239977]humans cannot be cute. for example, Wall-E is incredibly cute.
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I mean cute like...d'awww cute not like "hey that girl is pretty cute"[/QUOTE]
I would fuck the shit out of Wall-E
[QUOTE=Nlogax;34270292]I would fuck the shit out of Wall-E[/QUOTE]
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Picture related. Nothing sexual though, I didn't want to post that
Another movie that had an effect on me was the original "The Thing", those poor dogs in that cage..
In many films they tend to humanize non-humans more then they humanize humans so the non-humans are more relatable.
My example is actually a book, seeing as how I don't watch too many movies, but if anyone has read [i]Marley & Me[/i], you'll know how I felt.
That book was so terribly sad at the end to the point I was about to cry at the description of [sp]Marley's death[/sp]. John Grogan is a pretty good writer to move people like that. I don't remember ever crying like that until I found that book at the library.
[QUOTE=derek;34280117]Another movie that had an effect on me was the original "The Thing", those poor dogs in that cage..[/QUOTE]
The sheer badassitude of the rest of the movie made up for it though.
Also, fucking fox and hound, fuck that movie man...Why would they do that to kids man? Why make a movie that is more depressing than most normal movies, why make that in an animated kids film?
Characters' death don't affect me that much in movies. However, in video games, when the plot forces me to kill a character whose personality is well developed throughout the game, I often feel a bit saddened, or sometimes even disgusted.
watership motherfucking down
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Why did you show us that?
Fuck....
That's what a emotionally deep movie does.
Doesn't matter if the thing is human or not.
Not necessarily. Animals are forever innocent because you can't say that their intentional actions led to whatever occurred.
I though the aliens in D9 were cute
b/c most movies and games where people die suck balls and dont give you a reason to care
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I've never been all that sad about animals dying unless they're my own pets. It's hard to make an emotional connection with a non-human in, say, a movie. People, on the other hand, are a lot easier for me to relate to, so I will openly weep if one of my favorite characters in a movie dies.
I can't completely understand feeling more for humans than non-humans, since you'd think it would go against your nature.
I dunno about you guys but the ending of Saving Private Ryan was pretty sad.
I was reminded recently how much this got to me when I first saw it
[t]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/spirit.png[/t]
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?
I think the answer to OP's question is: yes it's really weird, but don't worry, you're not alone. It doesn't have to be human to be a heavily invested character.
When you think about it, it's a credit to a screenwriter's talent that they can manage to get you upset over a fictional character at all.
