• Canadians, Brits, Frenchies, are you happy with your respective healthcare systems?
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Dutch health care definatly isn't perfect, but it seems to work out just fine. We pay a moderate amount of taxes, a monthly fee for global health care, and some insurance shit. When I was brought into the hospital because my stomach was working on digesting itself, I was on a bed being checked in about two minutes after we got it. All I had to do afterwards was show my health care insurance card. We never got a bill of it whatsoever, so apparently the system works.
It's really hard to decide for me, I like the idea of not having to be in debt forever to pay for a $500,000 surgery you need but looking at the current US government run systems(like the public schools) makes me quite opposed to having those same people manage it.
I'm american and I hate my own healthcare system. If you have enough money for it, you get the treatment. Not enough money? Left to die slowly. Sounds like a shit system to me.
With private health care the insurance companies delay enough to get you approved it makes it difficult to get things when they are needed, or they try and get out of paying the bill for a surgery or something and it gets dumped on the state. Also nationalized healthcare would increase taxes but almost eliminate the need for private insurance and just make it easier for the average citizen to get treatment. Sure, some doctors wouldn't get paid multi million a year wages, but do many of those who do really deserve it? Also nationalized healthcare won't remove the private sector of medicinal procedures, that will be left to doctors who want extra income and people who want private treatment and are willing to pay the immense wages.
A kind of off-topic question but, does healthcare include dental?
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;19345541]I live in the south and I've heard a lot of anti-healthcare reform statements from my right-winged neighbors and friends. They claim that the nationalized Canadian, French, and British healthcare systems are crap, and have no hope in hell of ever working. [/QUOTE] Your neighbors and friends are dumb.
ITT: 14 year olds (most) thinking they know politics
I live in New Zealand and our health care is rather good, I've had to get stitches a few times and I didn't have to wait in the waiting room for hours while I'm bleeding out a shit load of blood, I got good friendly service from the doctors and nurses who fixed me with no problems after my wounds were stitched up and they healed really quickly, I also think the doctors aren't under paid either, I think that's what your government (I'm presuming you're from America) is telling you guys so you pay a shit load of health insurance to get the medical care you need and you're not always titled to it. I personally think that your government is pretty greedy and doesn't want to help it's people (the ones who can't afford health insurance) because they're not getting a hefty some of money.
[QUOTE=keatinator;19346864]I live in New Zealand and our health care is rather good, I've had to get stitches a few times and I didn't have to wait in the waiting room for hours while I'm bleeding out a shit load of blood, I got good friendly service from the doctors and nurses who fixed me with no problems after my wounds were stitched up and they healed really quickly, I also think the doctors aren't under paid either, I think that's what your government (I'm presuming you're from America) is telling you guys so you pay a shit load of health insurance to get the medical care you need and you're not always titled to it. I personally think that your government is pretty greedy and doesn't want to help it's people (the ones who can't afford health insurance) because they're not getting a hefty some of money.[/QUOTE] in america the doctors made me wait when i had to get stitched up :(
I like the NHS. It's free, so stop yer complaining
You forgot Australia. And yes, I am pretty damn satisfied with it.
Surrendering frenchie here The only problem with it is the cost to the country, there's a lack of 6 billion, and it's being SLOWLY resolved.
But france has a totally irrelevant 98% nuclear power FUCK YEAH!
I mean yeah taxes suck, but [i]you're helping other people.[/i]
Us Brits seem to have a tendency to exaggerate everything so if you hear one saying they had to wait 4 hours in a packed room and they were really ill then it probably means they were there for half an hour, the room was half full and they had a bad cough or something. It really isn't that bad.
I fucking love the NHS. Then again, I've never had to go into hospital for anything serious.
The NHS is a fine system, so long as you don't constantly bitch at them :v: All the things Americans think are wrong with the NHS in particular are because of one or two politicians in the UK who just wouldn't shut up when their party told them too. The NHS is fine, if you sustain minor injury (tripped and dislocated something/ broken arm) you may have a wait, it's not too long normally. Americans who oppose this system seem to think that if you were to walk into your hospital with a limb missing, they'd still make you wait, wrong, if your emergency IS a severe threat to yours or others health you get bumped up the queue. I honestly cannot see any reason for America to oppose this system other than pure greed, it will not add a shit ton to your taxes, and this way you won't be paying out of the ass for privatized healthcare unless you really want it.
free healthcare is amazing. yh you might have to wait a couple of hours to get treated but i'd choose that any day over paying anything upwards of £1000.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;19346875]in america the doctors made me wait when i had to get stitched up :([/QUOTE] in finland doctors made me wait when i had a broken hand- and armbones and my forehead was bleeding and needed stitches :( e: on different occasions, i got my forehead open when i was a kid and drove a kid tractor to the couch and hit my head and i broke my arm in in a motorbike crash
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OP,I'm not living in one of these countries,but here system is the same.And you know what?Authors of these comments are right.My parents are doctors so I hear a lot about it.
Norway here, but think I'd just chime in and say that I have never had any issues with our healthcare. I've had pneumonia when I was younger and had to be rushed to hospital and spend more than 3 weeks there. No wait time at all. The total cost for this was about 0 NOK, which at the current exchange rate should be about the same as 0$. They even let my parents stay for free some nights so they could watch over me. I've also broken my arm and my clavicle at two separate occasions, and I never had to wait more than 30 minutes to get checked.
My mum works in the NHS (English), and it's no secret that it's absolutely crap. Doctors and nurses just argue all day and nothing gets done.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;19347844]I always get ads like "Obama Care-Stop Him!" and "Palin 2012" ads on these threads. Fuckingn :foxnews: in my Google Ads.[/QUOTE] Adblock?
Also, here is a site with anecdotes of medical experiences from both sides of the system. [url]http://www.pluralofanecdote.com/[/url] Just click "another?" or "Two more stories" to find some more.
I think the NHS is fine, but waiting times are ludicrous sometimes. I had to wait seven hours to get my arm set. In America you do have the leading technology, but you guys do have to pay, so its 50/50. I think that the French have to pay as well....
it's fine but it also depends on the hospital some can be really shit
I got free morphine, and some codeine to take home last time I went to hospital. Can't complain with that. Sweet sweet opiates mmmmm
My NHS care has been pretty good, and I've had several operations with them. It's the idea of a society where how much money you have determines the level of your basic medical treatment that sickens me. [quote]"Doctors that work in these systems are underpayed, and are therefore not motivated to do well in their work."[/quote] Agaahaa- whaaa? [i]Under[/i]payed? NHS consultants generally earn over £100,000 a year, often substantially over that, up to crazy levels like £175,000. Junior doctors (i.e. students can earn about £40 - £50k while in training.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;19345590]Canuck healthcare[/QUOTE] Shhh... Don't call em' Canuck's they'll send their pet beavers after us.... [media] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng[/url] [/media] Anyway... I don't really give a damn either way toward the direct moment... If anything I'm getting sick of listening to people so much they may need nationalized health care if they don't shut it.
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