[QUOTE=heavy artillery;24942287]i must make this.
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okay i have drawn a plan
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yes/no?
We had a box, and then had a plastic bag as the chute. 20 FT drop. Survived.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24954453]Read the OP, those are the rules. If there were any material limitations, I'd state them.
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Holy shit. Non-newtonian liquid looks perfect.
Although will it be easy (fast) to extract the egg?[/QUOTE]
I actually used non-newtonian fluid for my egg-drop experiment.
I will tell you now, it does NOT work.
[QUOTE=Armyis1337;24961951]I will tell you now, it does NOT work.[/QUOTE]
Dammit, you sure? How about from a 10 meter drop?
There's a video in here that showed some students using the non newton fluid and it worked.
Get some cello tape and coil it up, basically just cut a long piece and fold it back to front until it's all folded down and then you have a spring.
you know those foam beads and shit that you find in stuffed animals, stuff is really small and sticks to you, stick that in a box with the egg and it wont crack
[QUOTE=69105;24941779]As a college experiment in my management and business class, we were required to split up in to teams of four and create a shuttle for the egg in the same exact scenario.
The surprising thing was that we had to create a shuttle that didn't break the egg, and we had to make it as cheaply as possible, buy "purchasing" resources such as paper cups, newspaper, tape, etc.
My team won -- we used a bunch of newspaper and tape to cushion the blow. It looked like a pipe bomb! I have pictures if you guys want me to upload some. Every other team tried the parachute routine -- it doesn't work. You want cushioning.
I don't know why I'm telling you guys this. It's mostly incoherent drivel but I thought it was a nice story to share, albeit never being read/cared for. The entire reason I bring it up, I guess, is because there's a fine line between efforts in grade school and efforts in college, where in college the amounts of effort and motivation are beyond anything I've ever seen.
Make the most out of this project, and out of every project. Make the most out of school, because at the end of the day, it really pays off.[/QUOTE]
You are a great poster! This forum could use more people like you.
:buddy:
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24968116]Dammit, you sure? How about from a 10 meter drop?
There's a video in here that showed some students using the non newton fluid and it worked.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, my mixture may have been a bit off. It couldn't hurt to try it seeing as you will probably be the only person to use it and you will maybe get some brownie/bonus points from it (I'm pretty sure I did). If you go that route, learn from my mistakes and test thoroughly and do drop tests.
[QUOTE=69105;24941779]Make the most out of this project, and out of every project. Make the most out of school, because at the end of the day, it really pays off.[/QUOTE]
I actually try now in school..
So I will.
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[QUOTE=Armyis1337;24969661]To be fair, my mixture may have been a bit off. It couldn't hurt to try it seeing as you will probably be the only person to use it and you will maybe get some brownie/bonus points from it (I'm pretty sure I did). If you go that route, learn from my mistakes and test thoroughly and do drop tests.[/QUOTE]
I've searched for the ingredients and some say 1 cup water 2 cup cornstarch. Others 2 cup cornstarch and 1 cup water....
I'll have to experiment.
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I've decided to use non newton fluid.. but how long will the fluid last?
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24970059]I actually try now in school..
So I will.
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I've searched for the ingredients and some say 1 cup water 2 cup cornstarch. Others 2 cup cornstarch and 1 cup water....
I'll have to experiment.
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I've decided to use non newton fluid.. but how long will the fluid last?[/QUOTE]
DON'T use a non Newtonian fluid. The fluid solidifies when force hits it. So it is like surrounding your egg by something solid. So it will break.
[QUOTE=sbradford26;24971750]DON'T use a non Newtonian fluid. The fluid solidifies when force hits it. So it is like surrounding your egg by something solid. So it will break.[/QUOTE]
But doesn't it completely surround it, and somewhat absorb the shock?
Augh.. shit. Yeah I saw a video on a 22 ft drop and the egg broke... but that was because the egg sort of tilted and it hit the floor instead of the fluid.
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But then again.. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMmhNbj4K68[/media]
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24959187]No tools.[/QUOTE]
Once again... Box. Porcupine it with wooden chopsticks.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24971996]But doesn't it completely surround it, and somewhat absorb the shock?
Augh.. shit. Yeah I saw a video on a 22 ft drop and the egg broke... but that was because the egg sort of tilted and it hit the floor instead of the fluid.
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But then again.. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMmhNbj4K68[/media][/QUOTE]
Just do the peanut butter jar with the egg in a ziplock bag to make it easier to pull out. Works every time. The simplest plans always work the best.
[QUOTE=iusehax;24940016]OP is 12.
No really he must be I did this when I was 12.[/QUOTE]
in physics class?
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[QUOTE=sbradford26;24971750]DON'T use a non Newtonian fluid. The fluid solidifies when force hits it. So it is like surrounding your egg by something solid. So it will break.[/QUOTE]
wouldn't only the places affected by the shock be affected? So if you were to put it in a big enough container it wouldn't solidify around the egg because the shock would have gone away by then
[QUOTE=sbradford26;24971750]DON'T use a non Newtonian fluid. The fluid solidifies when force hits it. So it is like surrounding your egg by something solid. So it will break.[/QUOTE]
The ONLY WAY of using a non-Newtonian fluid in my opinion is if the egg is ENTIRELY surrounded by the stuff on impact. This is because when a force is spread out evenly over an egg, it can survive tremendous loads.
[QUOTE=Armyis1337;24973565]The ONLY WAY of using a non-Newtonian fluid in my opinion is if the egg is ENTIRELY surrounded by the stuff on impact. This is because when a force is spread out evenly over an egg, it can survive tremendous loads.[/QUOTE]
There was this diagram showing that the shock breaking the egg in one part, but when in this fluid the shock is applied evenly throughout the egg's shell. Therefore, the shell does not break.
Yeah, I just tried it and dropped it off my stairs. It broke after I dropped like 3 times off of it.
The only problem is that the egg might hit its side against the floor and then break..
air cushions on the side? I'm thinking marshmallows but we don't have any.
Another problem is getting the egg out fast... you have to go very slooooowly.. and that might cost us some time. Maybe I'll use some sort of net to ease the egg out faster.
Oh man.. or I could use a half cut bottle so it rolls and won't hit on it's side?..
Dang this is pretty fun.
fill a screw-top plastic jar with honey
put egg in honey
drop container
unscrew lid to retrieve honey and egg
Whenever I had to do this it was always with straws for some reason...always made a cube and mounted the egg in the center and made "shocks" to absorb the impact
Take a plastic bag... put rubber bands on the handles... then let the egg drop into the plastic bag. And the rubber bands will stretch out and prevent any pressure on the egg.
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[QUOTE=Nerdrage;24975842]fill a screw-top plastic jar with honey
put egg in honey
drop container
unscrew lid to retrieve honey and egg[/QUOTE]
22m drop? The jar might break. Hm.. makes sense though. So does peanut butter, jello....
Make a cradle out of straws. Have straws sticking out as well. Rollermine design.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24990578]22m drop? The jar might break. Hm.. makes sense though. So does peanut butter, jello....[/QUOTE]
Wrap the jar in tape then. It is the best way to do it.
You're all trying to overcomplicate this.
I'm telling you use a cone it's so simple, yet the most effective.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;24947700]There is one super simple way to win this.
[B]Make a cone.[/B]
That's it. Make it out of whatever material you want, preferably something that wouldn't crumple instantly on impact (Stonger than plain paper) When I did it it was with some of that `1/4cm thick construction foam thing, but it depends on the height. Have the tip of the cone face down, when it hits, the cone will take all the pressure, and all of the pressure on the egg will be distributed evenly on the outside of the egg (due to the way the egg sits in the cone), instead of on a single point on the bottom of the egg. The cone should be pretty thin, like 30 degrees. Not some wide ass 150 degree cone.
Make sure to cover the top with something too and add a bit of padding all over the place, you don't want the egg to survive the fall only to roll out and break on the pavement when the cone falls over.
It was funny the first time I did it. Me and a friend were walking around a cruise ship, bored, and we walked into a room where they were prepping their egg drop stuff. There were a ton of people working for what had already been 2 hours, and the lady announced that they only had 15 minutes left. We figured we might as well join in for the hell of it, so we took a piece of construction foam, curled it into a cone, held it together with some tape, then cut another sheet of it into some small confetti type pieces, put a tiny bit on the bottom of the cone, and the rest on top of the egg. We taped up the top so it wouldn't fall out, and that was it. Really simple, took 5 minutes. We started looking around at what others had done, and you wouldn't believe how complex some of them were. There were these kids that made a bin, about 1 foot in diameter, and spent 2 hours cutting up paper to use as confetti to cushion the impact of just dropping the egg into it. And that wasn't even the most complicated one.
In the end, we were the only ones that dropped the egg intact. There's a lesson to be learned here, simple is best.
Don't bother with parachutes and all that, in fact, with this method it will be even worse, since with a parachute it will be dragged off to the side, so instead of taking all the force directly into the tip of the cone, the sideways momentum would tip over the cone and the egg would take all the impact on 1 point on the side.
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No way! I did almost that exact same thing a few years ago, I added rocks to the tip of the cone and sealed it up with tape so that it would be heavier than the egg at the top.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;24990578]22m drop? The jar might break. Hm.. makes sense though. So does peanut butter, jello....[/QUOTE]
or make the jar chamber part of your landing vehicle,
just wrap the jar in bubble wrap
Argh, but I want to somewhat impress my teacher by using non newton fluid.
1. Watch mythbusters
2. Do contest
3. PROFIT!!!!!!!!>>???!!!!!1111??
My class was way more hardcore than yours. We launched our egg 80 feet in the air in a rocket and it landed without breaking in our super advanced cone rocket.
We named the egg milton
[QUOTE=Perfumly;24994228]My class was way more hardcore than yours. We launched our egg 80 feet in the air in a rocket and it landed without breaking in our super advanced cone rocket.
We named the egg milton[/QUOTE]
Shame on you-ou. Shame on all you do. SHAME ON YOUUUUUUUUUUU AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH. SHAME ON YOU-OUUUUUUUUUUU. AUGH.
Rubber band the egg in the middle of a box.. win
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