Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves
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I think the hardest thing about bulking since switching to it is the dieting, seriously. I have no problems with committing to the gym and pushing myself, but I'm just not sure if I eat enough, and when I eat plenty it feels like I've ate too much and I'm worried it will go on as fat and not muscle.
I haven't counted the calories yet for a bulking diet, but typically what I'll do is have a coffee and two pieces of raisin toast for breakfast - with a truckload of peanut butter and some light margarine, an egg white omelette for brunch from three egg whites, two chicken and tomato or tuna and mayo sandwiches for lunch (on wholemeal bread), a nut bar and a fruit for a snack and then like a curry or pasta or chicken Schnitty for dinner (and a protein shake after a workout, and another before bed - both with low fat milk). But like, I am 19, two metres tall so six-foot and a bit and currently at 69kg with not much muscle and a bit of a gut. But with the dieting yeah on one hand I'm worried I don't eat enough, if I eat more than the above I feel like it's being put on as fat, not even sure if I'm eating correctly. I can't afford to buy too much anyways as my rent is $250 per week, groceries already at $70 per week, petrol at $50 per week etc and I only pack shelves for a job (normally get like $500 per week after tax for that, good weeks I'll get up to $650 after tax).
69kg at 2 meters is horribly skinny. You shouldn't be caring about putting on a little fat for your bulk. Start counting calories and hitting what you need to build muscle. Caring too much about a little fat to the point where you'll hold yourself back from eating means all that hard work and sweat you put in at the gym is being hampered.
Mate, 2m at 69kg, you'll still look alright with a bit of fat lol, I'm 1.86m at 73.7kg and I'm not bad.
Also hit 90kg on clean today, was doing it as a warm up for deadlifts so I went to do a set of 130 and afterwards the guy squatting behind me was like "fuck m8 i thought you were going to clean that holy shit".
So now my long term goal for cleans is 130.
Will I be experiencing less DOMS as I get used to the exercises?
I imagine my legs/back will still be sore tomorrow, tomorrow including more squats. The issue may have been lifting more weight than I was supposed to, as that gym that I went to didn't have an empty olympic barbell, just fixed weights.
What are your opinions on foam rolling?
Hit a new front squat pr today, 230 lbs
On my birthday as well
[QUOTE=loopoo;47016083]69kg at 2 meters is horribly skinny. You shouldn't be caring about putting on a little fat for your bulk. Start counting calories and hitting what you need to build muscle. Caring too much about a little fat to the point where you'll hold yourself back from eating means all that hard work and sweat you put in at the gym is being hampered.
Mate, 2m at 69kg, you'll still look alright with a bit of fat lol, I'm 1.86m at 73.7kg and I'm not bad.[/QUOTE]
Haha yeah I'm still in the mentality of cutting. I've gone down from 95kg, all fat, to 69kg. I used to be the person who drank like, 5 cans of soft drink per day.
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
I've cut cardio completely out of my exercise, except for five minutes of warm up on the elliptical before each session. I know that sounds bad, but as my job where I work thirty hours per week is labour intensive, moving 15kg cartons twice per minute for up to nine hours per shift ( that includes breaks of course), I think my cardio health should be somewhat fine.
A few weeks into really ramping up my effort on diet sleep and training. I need to put together a program that incorporates speed training for football in August. I understand there will be a certain level of cardiovascular activity involved, and I would like to know how much more food I need to be eating. Speed training will consist of running on a high speed treadmill that has a harness and a bunch of plyomeyrics + agility speed ladder type stuff. If I do this type of training in addition to my regular workouts 3 times a week how will that change my ability to recover and grow, should I dial back my strength training? Should I work speed right after strength? Pretty complex question, any advice you guys might have would be awesome.
So I've been going at my routine and bulking like fucking mad, and I'm starting to see progress on various parts of my body. My arms are getting bigger and I'm actually excited. Hell, I just had a great workout now and I feel fucking great. Tired, but great. I should have started doing this ages ago.
Hey guys! I'm pretty new to lifting and have been doing stronglifts 5x5 on and off for a few months now.
On and off because I both don't always have access to a gym (gym at college is great, but closest gym to home is planet fitness and afaik they don't have free weights) and recently acquired pain in my lower back after doing squats. I think this is due to rounding my lower back, as I recorded myself doing bodyweight squats and I round. I don't know if I do it during weighted squats, since I asked a friend to watch me squat and he said I didn't round, but he's probably an idiot, so I feel like I might.
How can I avoid rounding my lower back? How can I strengthen my lower back in particular? Could it be due to a lack of stretching? General advice for avoiding back problems? Thanks, guys!
(note: it's fucking terrible to have stopped when I did, because I started noticing progress just before :v: )
Usually if you're rounding your back, it's because either the weight you're lifting is too high and you don't have the proper form and control (due to the weight being too high), or some muscle imbalance is occurring. With muscle imbalance, I can't remember which, but it's something like your core or back being weak which causes the rounding.
I'm sure some weightlifting guru will come in here and correct me. But the one thing I know is right for sure is that if you can't perform an exercise with the correct form and technique, don't do it at all since you're only gonna ingrain the bad habits further and potentially hurt yourself.
Overhand gripping 235 on deadlift for sets on sets without forearm failure feels so fucking great, I think my arms are catching up to my back.
I saw one of the trainers doing underhand deadlifts today which look so awkward and awful, you guys ever try them?
Do I just have superhuman forearm strength? I do overhand and have never failed grip-wise on dead lift (400lbs)
[editline]26th January 2015[/editline]
Guys
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I really wish i had the income to start eating well and gaining.
[QUOTE=greeley;47019660]I really wish i had the income to start eating well and gaining.[/QUOTE]
to be completely honest with you, you can mitigate that through decent training
just because you cant afford to eat +150g protein a day clean doesnt mean you wont make gains
maybe they wont be super optimal maximized but you'll still make progress
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;47017998]Overhand gripping 235 on deadlift for sets on sets without forearm failure feels so fucking great, I think my arms are catching up to my back.
I saw one of the trainers doing underhand deadlifts today which look so awkward and awful, you guys ever try them?[/QUOTE]
I do one over one under
Damn blizzard killing off another day at the gym. First Saturday, now today. And no it's not a rest day because I haven't lifted since Thursday.
How will I catch up to cathal's clean pr now?
I feel pretty fucking amazing, this growing up, self-improvement thing isn't so bad. More confidence and better self-image can do amazing things in your life.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47021576]Me and my friend started working out this semester, we're both pasty white nerds (I am the most pasty, though)
Its been a month and a half, and I'm 130lbs, up from 125. It is really exciting seeing these gains and shit.
Yesterday, I was doing lateral pulls (?) at 70lbs, 3 sets of 10, which I had a little bit of trouble with lately cause I wasn't giving my arms enough rest. Anyway, after I finished, turned out I was actually doing 85lbs and didn't even know it, it still felt like the usual 70lbs! I was pretty happy with myself.[/QUOTE]
i shall always point to valon kyre for "how to go from a skinny pasty nerd to a titan" motivation
those pics of his were motivational as fuck, honestly
he's like a real-life caterpillar. just cocooned up and emerged as a beautiful, striated butterfly.
[QUOTE=NO ONE;47020639]Damn blizzard killing off another day at the gym. First Saturday, now today. And no it's not a rest day because I haven't lifted since Thursday.
How will I catch up to cathal's clean pr now?[/QUOTE]
I put it down to noob gains and the fact that I'm eating shitloads
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
Plateau doesnt seem too far off
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
Where's your snatch at?
Okay so I have a question:
There's so much controvers one goddamn creatine, so:
If I take creatine to help me with mass trainaing (High weights low reps) will it benefit me? or "hurr you'll fuck up your liver and bladder"
I hear so much mixed info its crazy.
[QUOTE=thecat100;47022915]Okay so I have a question:
There's so much controvers one goddamn creatine, so:
If I take creatine to help me with mass trainaing (High weights low reps) will it benefit me? or "hurr you'll fuck up your liver and bladder"
I hear so much mixed info its crazy.[/QUOTE]
lol who says that even
[QUOTE=thecat100;47022915]Okay so I have a question:
There's so much controvers one goddamn creatine, so:
If I take creatine to help me with mass trainaing (High weights low reps) will it benefit me? or "hurr you'll fuck up your liver and bladder"
I hear so much mixed info its crazy.[/QUOTE]
never od on creatine
my friend accidentally did too much during a loading period and he turned into this
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ba/f3/45/baf345222c7f8385aca3791932e717e4.jpg[/IMG]
and then died shortly thereafter
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47021576]Me and my friend started working out this semester, we're both pasty white nerds (I am the most pasty, though)
Its been a month and a half, and I'm 130lbs, up from 125. It is really exciting seeing these gains and shit.
Yesterday, I was doing lateral pulls (?) at 70lbs, 3 sets of 10, which I had a little bit of trouble with lately cause I wasn't giving my arms enough rest. Anyway, after I finished, turned out I was actually doing 85lbs and didn't even know it, it still felt like the usual 70lbs! I was pretty happy with myself.[/QUOTE]
I was doing lat pulls last week and I thought I had it set to 120, but I'd only set it to 100 and wanted to die when I found out.
Got my revenge by doing 120x8 for 3 sets this week
[QUOTE=thecat100;47022915]Okay so I have a question:
There's so much controvers one goddamn creatine, so:
If I take creatine to help me with mass trainaing (High weights low reps) will it benefit me? or "hurr you'll fuck up your liver and bladder"
I hear so much mixed info its crazy.[/QUOTE]
Really though you can only utilize *about* 5g daily (sometimes a few more grams), any more you'll piss it out harmlessly. It increases ATP production slightly (giving your muscle cells a little more energy to build)
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
Creatine doesn't matter whether you're bodybuilding or strength training or whatever, it just helps grow muscles, yes you might as well take it. I use monohydrate, its the most common and most research backed type. Just buy it bulk somewhere, you don't need flavors or any shit, 5g mixes really easily into a protein shake or preworkout or just whatever.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;47023086]Really though you can only utilize *about* 5g daily (sometimes a few more grams), any more you'll piss it out harmlessly. It increases ATP production slightly (giving your muscle cells a little more energy to build)
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
Creatine doesn't matter whether you're bodybuilding or strength training or whatever, it just helps grow muscles, yes you might as well take it. I use monohydrate, its the most common and most research backed type. Just buy it bulk somewhere, you don't need flavors or any shit, 5g mixes really easily into a protein shake or preworkout or just whatever.[/QUOTE]
Already have monohydrate on me, I usually down it with water in the morning.
Should I follow the label and do the induction phase or just go immediately to 5g's?
[QUOTE=thecat100;47023638]Already have monohydrate on me, I usually down it with water in the morning.
Should I follow the label and do the induction phase or just go immediately to 5g's?[/QUOTE]
It really doesn't matter, I didn't do a loading phase I just did 5g's
Also the companies will say stupid shit like you should be doing 10-20g's a day, this is retarded. They just want you to go through the tub faster.
to be honest the only proper way to take creatine monohydrate in the most efficient manner is to snort it through your asshole.
[editline]28th January 2015[/editline]
it's the secret the big creatine companies don't want us to know
I just don't feel like I'm progressing guys :(
I'm plateaued at 90kgx5 DL, 70kgx8 bench and 90kgx8 squat. I keep trying to add weight but I'm getting nowhere.
I'm eating roughly 2500cal on lifting days (4x a week) and probably 1800cal on rest days. I also don't eat everyday until about 4pm (so a 16hour fast essentially). Do you guys think it is the diet?
I sleep 9-14 hours a day depending on what I'm doing the next day.
I'm on a brosplit, have been for the past year after I left my Olympic lifting club. Chest + Triceps, Back + Biceps, Shoulders + Triceps, Legs + Biceps. Ab work and other misc exercises get sprinkled in over the week.
My bodyweight has dropped over the last semester from 75kg to 67kg because I was poor, wasn't lifting and ate ramen all semester. I'm 6ft 1 and roughly 10%bf.
Any advice gents? I've tried rejigging my workouts and trying a different routine for a few weeks but still nothing.
I love you guys <3
I love reading about newbies getting motivated and then I get mentioned its like
come on
my heart cant take dis :)
On topic of creatine, its perfectly safe, I imagine training style will help a lot with how much you get out of it. I've been taking Kre-alk for 2 years steady (with a 6 month break somewhere in there because i was a cheap ass), two pills before, two half way, and if its a good lift or im hitting the sauna 2 after which may be excessive but I do hold my pump longer after taking 2 after. You may gain 2 pounds off it, just because your loaded and will hold more water, and when you lift you'll pull in more water too. I know for me i pull in as much as 12 pounds but its pretty unheard of so dont expect it. The ONLY thing I hate is that it bloats my face up a whole bunch when i lift but some people dont get it.
As for training, if you use it for whatever I've never taken note of strength change but I do know I get PAINFULLY tight pumps when I do really long to fail-drop-fail again sets where you just push to pump more blood in. For heavy weight stuff, it works, but of course cranking out a shitton of reps to force blood in is difficult.
[editline]27th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;47023875]I just don't feel like I'm progressing guys :(
I'm plateaued at 90kgx5 DL, 70kgx8 bench and 90kgx8 squat. I keep trying to add weight but I'm getting nowhere.
I'm eating roughly 2500cal on lifting days (4x a week) and probably 1800cal on rest days. I also don't eat everyday until about 4pm (so a 16hour fast essentially). Do you guys think it is the diet?
I sleep 9-14 hours a day depending on what I'm doing the next day.
I'm on a brosplit, have been for the past year after I left my Olympic lifting club. Chest + Triceps, Back + Biceps, Shoulders + Triceps, Legs + Biceps. Ab work and other misc exercises get sprinkled in over the week.
My bodyweight has dropped over the last semester from 75kg to 67kg because I was poor, wasn't lifting and ate ramen all semester. I'm 6ft 1 and roughly 10%bf.
Any advice gents? I've tried rejigging my workouts and trying a different routine for a few weeks but still nothing.[/QUOTE]
Try eliminating bench/squat/deadlifts. I know for bench I got stuck at 225x2 forever, dropped bench for all summer, came back to it and within 2 weeks I hit 315x1. I dont bench much anymore, infact I only do it to bug my buddies and thats it. Try to replace it with cable flies and build that motion up and then come back to your pressing chest exercises.
I rarely do deadlifts and squats, mainly because if I do them at the begining of my workout i get too tired for anything after, and if I leave them to the end then im usually DEAD! Me and my buddy are working on reincorporating them though. You could try high resistance biking for legs, or isolation machines, lunches, different motions or different ways of working them (sumo squats, romanian deadlifts, stuff like that) try and build those exercises up and when you plateau with those (if you do) come back to the original lifts and see if you broke past your plateau.
Other options are to change your set/rep format, or try and eat more (more carbs, whole foods, vitamins).
Just read you fast for 16h, DONT! A key to muscle growth is constantly being fed, having bricks in the back room to repair shit when you wreck it lifting weights. And keep 2500 calories for every day, dont drop it on days you dont lift because your still rebuilding on those days. If you eat 3/4 times a day then you should have more energy to lift, and more nutrients to repair your body when you do rip shit in the gym. I dont know how many times I eat a day, I just eat when I feel hungry and make sure I dont ever feel hungry, but im bulking and take in 4500 calories maintenance 5500+ bulk so you dont have to do the same.
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