Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves
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Starting to get slight calluses after DLing. Should I buy gloves or something?
no
having calluses makes lifting a lot easier and more tolerable for your grip
i remember when i had baby hands, my palms would severely hurt after lifting for more than 40 minutes
now my palms no longer hurt and can hold out longer than my muscles
[editline]15th October 2015[/editline]
also down to 152 lbs, did a 21 consecutive rep set of wide grip pullups yesterday
pullups are so easy on a cut lmao
fucking broccoli makes me feel so sick :suicide:
[QUOTE=Flem;48909021]fucking broccoli makes me feel so sick :suicide:[/QUOTE]
It's fucking great to boil and eat with some salt on.
[QUOTE=Flem;48909021]fucking broccoli makes me feel so sick :suicide:[/QUOTE]
Learn to make curries and vegetables won't bother you at all anymore.
[editline]15th October 2015[/editline]
My favorite part of bodybuilding is the food. I love being able to eat pounds of meat everyday
[editline]15th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=kimr120;48909165]It's fucking great to boil and eat with some salt on.[/QUOTE]
Boiling reduces the nutritional value of broccoli. Better to steam it, lightly cook it in a sauce you're going to eat, or have it fresh.
I feel like not enough people know about jesse norris
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhhFm6Si_Nk][/url]
skip to about 10:30 or so and watch him get 330 kg for a double squat
at 90 kg bw
at 22 years old
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;48909235]Learn to make curries and vegetables won't bother you at all anymore.
[editline]15th October 2015[/editline]
My favorite part of bodybuilding is the food. I love being able to eat pounds of meat everyday
[editline]15th October 2015[/editline]
Boiling reduces the nutritional value of broccoli. Better to steam it, lightly cook it in a sauce you're going to eat, or have it fresh.[/QUOTE]
It can't be that much of a difference. Why not just eat a bigger amount of broccoli.
[QUOTE=kimr120;48909334]It can't be that much of a difference. Why not just eat a bigger amount of broccoli.[/QUOTE]
It's something like a quarter of the water-soluable nutrients if you don't overcook it. Steaming is a better option nutritionally, and personally I prefer the texture.
googled on it and vitamin c and some other lose like 5-10 percent by boiling.
I haven't had steamed and I guess it doesn't feels as soft when boiling it?
the talk about cooking broccoli reducing its nutritional content...
everyone pedantically focuses on losing a small amount of the nutrients, but almost nobody talks about neutralizing some of the anti-nutrients in vegetables. I've talked about this before - the widespread myth that vegetables are nothing but goodness, but in reality a lot of vegetables contain anti nutrients (compounds that inhibit the absorption of vitamins and minerals and/or compounds that interfere with the action of enzymes), and there is probably good evolutionary reasons why the majority of human beings think most vegetables taste like shit when they aren't masked in butter and salt or sauces.
One of the major reasons to cook vegetables is to make it easier to digest but also to neutralize some of the anti-nutrient content.
Fiber, while I'm at it, is possibly the most overrated (to the point that it probably has a deleterious effect in most peoples diets) gay shit in mainstream "health" circles ever. Besides I make it a point of principle not to trust any motherfucker that has that much focus on the quality of their stools.
[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48910238]the talk about cooking broccoli reducing its nutritional content...
everyone pedantically focuses on losing a small amount of the nutrients, but almost nobody talks about neutralizing some of the anti-nutrients in vegetables. I've talked about this before - the widespread myth that vegetables are nothing but goodness, but in reality a lot of vegetables contain anti nutrients (compounds that inhibit the absorption of vitamins and minerals and/or compounds that interfere with the action of enzymes), and there is probably good evolutionary reasons why the majority of human beings think most vegetables taste like shit when they aren't masked in butter and salt or sauces.
One of the major reasons to cook vegetables is to make it easier to digest but also to neutralize some of the anti-nutrient content.
[B]Fiber, while I'm at it, is possibly the most overrated (to the point that it probably has a deleterious effect in most peoples diets) gay shit in mainstream "health" circles ever. Besides I make it a point of principle not to trust any motherfucker that has that much focus on the quality of their stools.[/B][/QUOTE]
What if you get hard shits and anal fissures that cause fucking bloody shits? Granted there are several factors leading to this, but I feel my fiber intake definitely affects it.
shit slower
[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48910238]the talk about cooking broccoli reducing its nutritional content...
everyone pedantically focuses on losing a small amount of the nutrients, but almost nobody talks about neutralizing some of the anti-nutrients in vegetables. I've talked about this before - the widespread myth that vegetables are nothing but goodness, but in reality a lot of vegetables contain anti nutrients (compounds that inhibit the absorption of vitamins and minerals and/or compounds that interfere with the action of enzymes), and there is probably good evolutionary reasons why the majority of human beings think most vegetables taste like shit when they aren't masked in butter and salt or sauces.
One of the major reasons to cook vegetables is to make it easier to digest but also to neutralize some of the anti-nutrient content.
Fiber, while I'm at it, is possibly the most overrated (to the point that it probably has a deleterious effect in most peoples diets) gay shit in mainstream "health" circles ever. Besides I make it a point of principle not to trust any motherfucker that has that much focus on the quality of their stools.[/QUOTE]
The anti-nutrient thing is not really that big of a deal if you have a balanced diet. Usually "anti-nutrients" are just molecules which have a binding affinity for metallic nutrients, which most people are not lacking anyway.
Have fun with your [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis"]diverticulitis[/URL] (Dietary fiber is not a joke. Ask your physician next time you stop in.)
[QUOTE=NO ONE;48911250]What if you get hard shits and anal fissures that cause fucking bloody shits? Granted there are several factors leading to this, but I feel my fiber intake definitely affects it.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying there are people out there who make a big deal about getting ridiculous amounts of fiber.
If you eat fruits and vegetables, you're getting plenty of fiber.
[editline]16th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;48911987]The anti-nutrient thing is not really that big of a deal if you have a balanced diet. Usually "anti-nutrients" are just molecules which have a binding affinity for metallic nutrients, which most people are not lacking anyway.
Have fun with your [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis"]diverticulitis[/URL] (Dietary fiber is not a joke. Ask your physician next time you stop in.)[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me, vitamin and mineral deficiencies are prevalent.
Quality of soil has gone down dramatically in most countries and our diets have become inundated with cereal grains, which are some of the most potent sources of antinutrients. Zinc, Magnesium, Vitamin K2 and Vitamin D deficiencies are VERY common. These will be called "subclinical" deficiencies, which is just fancy talk for "we dont have an insurance billing code for your condition so I'm just not going to do anything because you're not pissing blood and shitting water either"
You seem to think I'm saying don't eat vegetables. But I'm not. I'm saying there's this dumb focus on scoffing down huge amounts of vegetables everyday as if there is a 1:1 relationship between how much plant matter you eat and how healthy you are. But there isn't, and in fact too much plant intake can have the opposite effect.
As for listening to a physician about diet, most physicians are still telling people to avoid saturated fats and eat gigantic amounts of cereal grains, despite the science on saturated fats and cholesterol having been shown to be protective in disease for well over 3 decades now (it wasnt until 2012 that that big wig organizations like the AHA admitted they fucked up).
If I need remedial medicine I'll be sure to visit a doctor, but as far as preventative medicine, medicine is too institutionally inbred to do anything in that arena.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Go049z-O3c[/media]
fucking smoked 100 kg on bench today, probably couldve done it for a set of 6 or 7 at a stretch but I kept it to 4*4. Gonna bump the weight to 105 next workout
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Go049z-O3c[/media][/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;IkMPZ7WeDck]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMPZ7WeDck[/video]
Full version if anyone liked that video.
[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48910238]the talk about cooking broccoli reducing its nutritional content...
everyone pedantically focuses on losing a small amount of the nutrients, but almost nobody talks about neutralizing some of the anti-nutrients in vegetables. I've talked about this before - the widespread myth that vegetables are nothing but goodness, but in reality a lot of vegetables contain anti nutrients (compounds that inhibit the absorption of vitamins and minerals and/or compounds that interfere with the action of enzymes), and there is probably good evolutionary reasons why the majority of human beings think most vegetables taste like shit when they aren't masked in butter and salt or sauces.
One of the major reasons to cook vegetables is to make it easier to digest but also to neutralize some of the anti-nutrient content.
Fiber, while I'm at it, is possibly the most overrated (to the point that it probably has a deleterious effect in most peoples diets) gay shit in mainstream "health" circles ever. Besides I make it a point of principle not to trust any motherfucker that has that much focus on the quality of their stools.[/QUOTE]
huh. guess that explains why i like my meat bloody as hell and my vegetables burnt to a fucking crisp
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fuark man the urge to jump off the natty train and enter the station of gains is sooooo compelling, especially since I haven't made all that many gains in 3 or so years.
thinking about trying some peptides, which is technically natty and legal. anyone have any experience?
[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;48920996]fuark man the urge to jump off the natty train and enter the station of gains is sooooo compelling, especially since I haven't made all that many gains in 3 or so years.
thinking about trying some peptides, which is technically natty and legal. anyone have any experience?[/QUOTE]
Don't have experience running peptides, but I know that scene fairly well. You're going to have to do a good amount of looking around, because a lot of peptide sellers are either full of shit or ridiculously expensive. Usually both.
[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;48920996]fuark man the urge to jump off the natty train and enter the station of gains is sooooo compelling, especially since I haven't made all that many gains in 3 or so years.
thinking about trying some peptides, which is technically natty and legal. anyone have any experience?[/QUOTE]
Most of the growth peptides are trash, sadly. I can't remember the name of it because it was almost 2 years ago, but I used one that "supposedly" helped growth, but the main benefit was increased appetite. I ate like a fucking monster on that stuff, helped take advantage of the 300 percent natty supplements running through my veins.
[editline]17th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=myalt22;48877089]Those are so damn good for your core. Too few people do Anti-Rotation flexion core excercises.
Definitely one of my favourite core excercises alongside the Standing Ab Wheel (Anti-Extension) and Hanging Leg Raise (Hip Flexion with neutral spine), and Side Bends (Anti-Lateral Flexion).
Honestly though, if you're only doing crunches I'd definitely try and implement an excercise for each of those types. If you hate Ab work i'd recommend at least Anti-Rotation and Anti-Extension for performance purposes.
Side note, if you're trying to build an aesthetic core, training your Transverse Abdominus with Stomach Vacuums is essential.
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If you have breadloaf abs like so, start doing Stomach Vacuums in the morning. I had breadloaf abs and they went away in about 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]
How do you structure sets with stomach vacuums? Or do you go by time held? I do them but I'm not sure if I'm really doing them sufficiently to produce results.
from what i hear people do stuff like 5sets x 30sec hold etc
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;48923255]Most of the growth peptides are trash, sadly. I can't remember the name of it because it was almost 2 years ago, but I used one that "supposedly" helped growth, but the main benefit was increased appetite. I ate like a fucking monster on that stuff, helped take advantage of the 300 percent natty supplements running through my veins..[/QUOTE]
Sounds like one of the growth hormone releasing peptides or the "partial" GH proteins
And yeah I think they are trash too. The guys who bang on about it claim its an ultra fine balance that you need to run in a specific manner, but that much fuck around and the lackluster results, you may as well spend the extra money chasing down some real GH.
Other peptides look more interesting. I know guys who claim real IGF-1 peptides are great, but they are also expensive as fuck. gw501516 is something I really want to try.
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How do you structure sets with stomach vacuums? Or do you go by time held? I do them but I'm not sure if I'm really doing them sufficiently to produce results.[/QUOTE]
Just 5 sets of Stomach Vacuums in the morning when you wake up held for a minute each and you're golden. When they get too easy just hold them longer.
has anybody had a feeling like their collarbone was somehow, detached?
it's clearly there, as usual
but somehow it feels wrong, out of place
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48930549]has anybody had a feeling like their collarbone was somehow, detached?
it's clearly there, as usual
but somehow it feels wrong, out of place[/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQoRXhS7vlU[/media]
Think I may have given myself tricep tendonitis after doing pushups until I could literally not do one more. The first time in almost 2 years I've been able to work out my arms/chest properly, as I've had an injured wrist.
Anyone else had experience with a pretty strong, tightening pain in your tricep after a workout? Much stronger in one arm over the other, and I can't fully bend my arm without forcing it hard. Mobility's gotten slightly better over the last day (originally did this workout on Thursday, it's Monday now).
does general fitness stuff go in here as well? I'm trying to get back into this losing weight thing which I haven't been successful with before, but eh, lets see how it works out this time.
before I dive into this I'd love to have a proper plan. I don't really know much about what I should do. the current plan was to run 1 hour on a treadmill 3 times a week to start off with, then increase to 5 days a week once I've gotten a feeling of this. there's things like Stronglifts5x5 which I've followed in the past, but my goal is to lose weight, not get big. maybe get big once I've lost weight, don't think I can do both at the same time?
do you guys have any good diet plans and losing weight plans? I want to lose weight as quickly as possible and I want to be able to maintain a low weight. I've heard that if you lose pounds too fast it's easy to gain them again. should I mix strength exercise into this? I've barely ever exercised strength before, so is there much to lose by not maintaining them by doing strength exercises?
last I weighed myself, I was at 99-100kg. I'm not sure what my ideal weight is yet, but I'd love to get all the way down to 70kg. I've been there before at the same height I'm at now and I wasn't exactly thin, still had some fat around my belly at that weight. for now, I think my goal is to get down to 80kg then see how slim I get. if I'm not happy with it at that point, I suppose I'll keep going.
[editline]19th October 2015[/editline]
forgot, my height is 190cm~
Guess we're pretty much the same then. I'm 188 cms and 97 kgs, although I'm aiming for just 85 kgs as I've been fat my whole life and losing weight isn't my favourite pasttime :v: Wouldn't even dream of 70 kgs myself, as I last was around that weight in primary school 13 years ago. I just watch my calories and do jogging/badminton and it has worked fine so far. Been losing weight steadily, 8ish kgs so far.
[QUOTE=PredGD;48936522]
do you guys have any good diet plans and losing weight plans? I want to lose weight as quickly as possible and I want to be able to maintain a low weight. I've heard that if you lose pounds too fast it's easy to gain them again. should I mix strength exercise into this? I've barely ever exercised strength before, so is there much to lose by not maintaining them by doing strength exercises?
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The most reliable way to lose weight is to count calories and always will be, regardless of "diet".
However if you don't want to do that, you could go full paleo-retard, which despite my problems with the paleo community, is a mercenary and effective way of cutting down on calories and the things people commonly overeat.
You really can't go wrong when you're basically eating nothing but meat, fruit and vegetables.
As for the idea that losing weight fast means regaining weight fast, no, its bullshit. Its based off pseudoscientific notions people have about "starvation". What can happened from prolonged restrictive eating (very low calorie diets for example) is adaptive metabolic changes can make weight gain very rapid upon eating 'normally' again, but the curious thing is how the people this happens to are the people for whom eating 'normal' means stuffing their face with everything in sight. in short, don't worry about it.
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