Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48936878]The most reliable way to lose weight is to count calories and always will be, regardless of "diet". However if you don't want to do that, you could go full paleo-retard, which despite my problems with the paleo community, is a mercenary and effective way of cutting down on calories and the things people commonly overeat. You really can't go wrong when you're basically eating nothing but meat, fruit and vegetables. As for the idea that losing weight fast means regaining weight fast, no, its bullshit. Its based off pseudoscientific notions people have about "starvation". What can happened from prolonged restrictive eating (very low calorie diets for example) is adaptive metabolic changes can make weight gain very rapid upon eating 'normally' again, but the curious thing is how the people this happens to are the people for whom eating 'normal' means stuffing their face with everything in sight. in short, don't worry about it.[/QUOTE] I think I'll settle with just eating less, sounds a lot simpler than starting to eat stuff I might not like at all. of course cut down on snacks and ensure I only eat during meals. I imagine eating 3-4 times a day is enough, don't need to eat more or cut them down into even smaller, more frequent meals? I imagine I'll most likely eat 3 meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner. breakfast and lunch would be a single slice of bread, or could I have the luxury of two slices? I suppose I should go with a single one, it'll be faster to lose weight I imagine. I don't remember how much I managed to lose last time I tried to lose weight, but I think it was 5-10kg+. though that was basically starvation, I ate only 500cals a day. had a rough time getting food into me for a looong period after that. regarding gym, I suppose running on a treadmill 3 hours a week is plenty? don't need to shove any other exercises into this? of course I'll start doing strength once I'm at my ideal weight so I can get big, but I'll get around to that once I'm actually there.

[QUOTE=PredGD;48936942]I think I'll settle with just eating less, sounds a lot simpler than starting to eat stuff I might not like at all. of course cut down on snacks and ensure I only eat during meals. I imagine eating 3-4 times a day is enough, don't need to eat more or cut them down into even smaller, more frequent meals? I imagine I'll most likely eat 3 meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner. breakfast and lunch would be a single slice of bread, or could I have the luxury of two slices? I suppose I should go with a single one, it'll be faster to lose weight I imagine. I don't remember how much I managed to lose last time I tried to lose weight, but I think it was 5-10kg+. though that was basically starvation, I ate only 500cals a day. had a rough time getting food into me for a looong period after that. regarding gym, I suppose running on a treadmill 3 hours a week is plenty? don't need to shove any other exercises into this? of course I'll start doing strength once I'm at my ideal weight so I can get big, but I'll get around to that once I'm actually there.[/QUOTE] You're better off starting to weight train whilst you're in a surplus allowing you to gain more and become stronger as you will have more mass. Its also going to be a form of exercise for you, just throw in cardio 2/3 times a week after a work out or split up the week. Losing weight isn't hard its pretty much down to common sense. Drink more water also it will fill you up, eat high protein/carb with some fibre mix with low fats and you should demolish it whilst working out. You don't need to have a healthy diet but it sure helps with a lot of aspects of health.

As much as it pains me to do so, I'm taking time off lifting until my shoulders are sorted out, just focus on cardio or some shit. I've had pain on and off for about 3 months now, and my OHP and bench hasn't increased since with my previous max. I've tried combinations of the occasional week off, doing small amounts of shoulder rehab (face pulls, external rotation), no benching or OHP which I've just tried to come back to. I believe I have impingement, at the least the tests I've done seem to indicate this alongside the symptoms. I have shoulder pain in the morning (as soon as I sit up from bed, I can lie in bed and be fine), minor pain with overhead movements, and my bench causes problems despite being really paranoid about good form. Obviously going to see a doctor/PT though. Going to take at least a month to focus solely on shoulder rehab and see if anything improves. Sucks because I've really gotten into lifting the past 8 months but don't want to tear my shit up in the future. Anyone here had experience with shoulder issues? (provided any of you read this post lel)

[QUOTE=PredGD;48936942]I think I'll settle with just eating less, sounds a lot simpler than starting to eat stuff I might not like at all. of course cut down on snacks and ensure I only eat during meals. I imagine eating 3-4 times a day is enough, don't need to eat more or cut them down into even smaller, more frequent meals? I imagine I'll most likely eat 3 meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner. breakfast and lunch would be a single slice of bread, or could I have the luxury of two slices? I suppose I should go with a single one, it'll be faster to lose weight I imagine. I don't remember how much I managed to lose last time I tried to lose weight, but I think it was 5-10kg+. though that was basically starvation, I ate only 500cals a day. had a rough time getting food into me for a looong period after that. regarding gym, I suppose running on a treadmill 3 hours a week is plenty? don't need to shove any other exercises into this? of course I'll start doing strength once I'm at my ideal weight so I can get big, but I'll get around to that once I'm actually there.[/QUOTE] start lifting while you're losing so you learn form and adapt to the exercises a bit, you don't wanna start gaining weight without knowing how to lift or not having reached the weights/intensity required to build muscle, the first few weeks will be mostly CNS adaptations anyway track your calories, don't be lazy, it's not that hard a habit to adopt, use myfitnesspal, it's easy, get enough protein, etc, your situation is not really unique, pretty much all the FAQs cover you already

[QUOTE=Lukeo;48938042] Anyone here had experience with shoulder issues? (provided any of you read this post lel)[/QUOTE] catching powercleans I should definitely just have missed has caused me a ton of shoulder pain it just kinda goes away with time though

when you never do cardio ever and then spontaneously decide its a great idea holy shit i can see how zyzz died

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;48939366]when you never do cardio ever and then spontaneously decide its a great idea holy shit i can see how zyzz died[/QUOTE] I tried HIIT on Yohimbine once, terrible idea.

[QUOTE=myalt22;48939864]I tried HIIT on Yohimbine once, terrible idea.[/QUOTE] LMFAO AHAHAHAHA you're lucky you didn't have a heart attack you dumb fuck ahhahahaha

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;48939366]when you never do cardio ever and then spontaneously decide its a great idea holy shit i can see how zyzz died[/QUOTE] Remember kids. Do cardio and don't die in a sauna.

[QUOTE=lexus04;48938473]start lifting while you're losing so you learn form and adapt to the exercises a bit, you don't wanna start gaining weight without knowing how to lift or not having reached the weights/intensity required to build muscle, the first few weeks will be mostly CNS adaptations anyway track your calories, don't be lazy, it's not that hard a habit to adopt, use myfitnesspal, it's easy, get enough protein, etc, your situation is not really unique, pretty much all the FAQs cover you already[/QUOTE] so it's actually beneficial to lift even when losing weight and you have no muscle you've gained you wish to maintain? will I even build anything or is it just to learn myself the form? I'll take a look at the FAQ, remember I was pretty overwhelmed last time I looked at it. I'm gonna need a strength plan to follow if I should start with this, anything you guys would recommend? I've used Stronglifts every other time, safe to use that again? how accurate are fitness watches when thinking of much calories they tell you that you've burnt? I own a FitBit Surge from when I was cycling on a frequent basis. if it says I've burnt 500-700 calories, can I trust that? the Surge has a BPM monitor on the wrist which I know isn't as accurate as chest worn monitors, but if anything, I think it'll tell me I've burnt less than I actually have than more

[QUOTE=Flem;48909021]fucking broccoli makes me feel so sick :suicide:[/QUOTE] That's because you're supposed to eat them, not fuck'em, sonny.

[QUOTE=PredGD;48944478]so it's actually beneficial to lift even when losing weight and you have no muscle you've gained you wish to maintain? will I even build anything or is it just to learn myself the form? I'll take a look at the FAQ, remember I was pretty overwhelmed last time I looked at it. I'm gonna need a strength plan to follow if I should start with this, anything you guys would recommend? I've used Stronglifts every other time, safe to use that again? how accurate are fitness watches when thinking of much calories they tell you that you've burnt? I own a FitBit Surge from when I was cycling on a frequent basis. if it says I've burnt 500-700 calories, can I trust that? the Surge has a BPM monitor on the wrist which I know isn't as accurate as chest worn monitors, but if anything, I think it'll tell me I've burnt less than I actually have than more[/QUOTE] I read through this FAQ [url]http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html[/url] from what I could gather: lots of protein and do strength. cardio wasn't as necessary as I thought to losing weight, should I even bother? I don't know how large my calorie deficit is exactly, but I only eat a maximum of 2 slices of bread (fairly white, but not loaf) and 1-2 dinner portions a day. I'd assume I'm hovering around 1500-1750cals a day which should be good enough. apparently you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time, I had no idea. at least according to the FAQ at /r/fitness, just that you'll get diminishing returns the more fit you are. I really should have read through the FAQs a long time ago! or at least something like that, at least it sounds like lifting weights even when losing fat is beneficial. current plan is to do strength exercises every Monday, Wednesday and Fridays following Stronglifts while doing cardio on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I am considering to cut out cardio completely seeing as it doesn't seem to benefit weight loss as much as I thought, perhaps replace it with long, high intensity walks 2-3 times a week instead. also, is it normal to only spend 20-30 minutes at the gym? last time I hit the gym (which I think has been like three or four times in my entire life) I only spent that long. I was expecting to stick around for at least an hour, but I can't imagine how I'm supposed to spend that much time at the gym only lifting weights. have I not been going at it intensely enough?

[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48943044]LMFAO AHAHAHAHA you're lucky you didn't have a heart attack you dumb fuck ahhahahaha[/QUOTE] Not my proudest moment. I'm on EC now though and I like it a lot more than Yohimbine, less sides.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48876799]So I did a 5/4/3/2/1 for squats today. My one-rep is at 225 lbs. I think if I continue doing this I can have it up at 250lbs instead. Also did [url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/landmine-180s]these[/url] for the first time and I feel like a king afterwards.[/QUOTE] I started doing those and they're pretty awesome. I can tell they're gonna help with explosiveness had to put some oomph into them with 90lbs loaded up.

oh boy first time i've had DOMS from squats in a looong-ass time apparently a week's break is enough for the soreness to sink in

I thought the deal with yohimbine was you do fasted cardio on it? or am i thinking of something else [editline]20th October 2015[/editline] also how to get good foot landing position in snatch/clean?

[QUOTE=cathal6606;48947037]I thought the deal with yohimbine was you do fasted cardio on it? or am i thinking of something else [/QUOTE] Yeah you do fasted cardio on it. Like going for a brisk walk not HIIT red zoning your heart lmao. Even lifting weights explosively on yohimbine makes you feel sick

[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;48948505]Yeah you do fasted cardio on it. Like going for a brisk walk not HIIT red zoning your heart lmao. Even lifting weights explosively on yohimbine makes you feel sick[/QUOTE] I usually just do a 5k run without problems, so I thought I could handle some HIIT, alas not.

came home from the gym pretty recently, feels like a successful first session! followed Stronglifts which I intend to keep following, still unsure if I'm going to do cardio at all considering I feel my calorie deficit is large enough. I feel like I had good form in most of the reps I did. I did squats, benchpress and barbell rowing. first two was 20kg which was just the barbell itself and the last I did at 30kg. I feel like I nailed the squatting in terms of form, was a little unsure if I did the benchpresses correctly and I know for sure I didn't do barbell rowing in the correct form at all. I wasn't able to straighten out my back. my neck and shoulders would point up, arch down to the middle of my back then go up again at my ass. had a nice, downwards arch which I believe is the wrong form, it should be straight shouldn't it? no idea how I'm gonna get my back completely straight other than that, still feeling really pumped up for the next session! I was pretty anxious today since I don't like exercising in front of people and it was my first time, but it went so good compared to what I was expecting.

good job, stick with it SL is a good beginner routine but don't get stuck on it too long, you'll grow out of it in several months if you're approaching snap city on your bb rows, I'd substitute with [URL="http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-cable-rows"]seated cable rows[/URL] personally, not easy to fuck up and it's a good exercise to develop a mind-muscle connection with your lats

[QUOTE=lexus04;48956159]good job, stick with it SL is a good beginner routine but don't get stuck on it too long, you'll grow out of it in several months if you're approaching snap city on your bb rows, I'd substitute with [URL="http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-cable-rows"]seated cable rows[/URL] personally, not easy to fuck up and it's a good exercise to develop a mind-muscle connection with your lats[/QUOTE] I heard negative stuff about using machines, that you'd get less back from them. I don't remember specifically what I read, but it was something along the line of them not being able to train other muscles as well as just using regular weights. I've begun properly counting calories as well and so far it has been a lot easier than I expected. was just a matter of getting into it and knowing what to do. I realized I'm eating perhaps way too little as well, especially yesterday. I didn't log my other meals (1 slice for breakfast and lunch, with each slice being 90cals, haven't gotten around to weigh what I put on the slices yet as I didn't have an accurate enough weight) but my dinner was only around 600cals, having a feeling it was even less than that. that means I must have gotten somewhere between 800-1000cals yesterday which sounds a little too little. I've definitely gone hungry a lot but I feel like that has to happen since I'm not used to eating less

if you're cutting cals this much keep in mind that it'd be good and I'd argue necessary to supplement at least a multivitamin, other shit depending on your diet machines are fine to use but you have to keep in mind that they isolate more and use less stabilizers the "machines are literally hitler" thing is just a circlejerk of rippletits worshippers if you want to stick with bb bent rows, try the way [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNjwZ1fxtCQ"]yates[/URL] does them, not too low, but make sure you're stable and using as little momentum as you can [editline]22nd October 2015[/editline] also do dips and pull ups

did hang cleans for the first time today fun as hell

shit, it's insane how many calories are in chocolate bars and chips. I haven't actually changed my diet around that much, all I've done is cut out snacks and properly size my dinner portions. most of the calories have disappeared through me not eating snacks. it's crazy to think I would often eat a bar of chocolate (which lies at a whopping 1026cals!!) and a bag of chip with that (which I believe sits around the same amount of cals, haven't had the chance to check yet). that alone is over my max allowed amount of cals a day at about 2000cals! max is 1800. ate a chocolate bar today seeing as I used to love them and it's Saturday, I must have my cheat days, right? I wasn't expecting it to be as calorie rich as it was, but I still ate it. surprisingly it made me feel a little ill and you could almost say I was a little stressed out by eating it when thinking of all the calories I was consuming. felt a little sickening. I think it's gonna be easy to cut out snacks after this experience. might eat a little 300-400cal chocolate bar every now and then, but that's well within my calorie budget. I ate one the other day, didn't have to make any changes to my meals and I still only had 1400cals that day. I've also begun missing the gym despite only having been there twice so far. I think that's a great sign! I have one concern however, I'm scared I might be eating too little. I don't know if I'm in the "starvation" zone or not. on Thursday I ate 1430cals which is reasonable, though that was with a 364cal chocolate bar which I don't eat everyday. yesterday I ate 936cals, but didn't log a medium sized popcorn I ate at the cinema since I had no way to weigh it. I think for every 100g there was something between 400-500cals. without the snacks I've been eating, I get 1000cals or less a day. MyFitnessPal warns me that I'm eating too little. is it okay to eat that little if I can keep it up or will this potentially hinder my workouts and damage my body? my body won't be eating up my muscles I hope? [editline]24th October 2015[/editline] also, lost 4kg from August to now without even making an effort to lose weight. I imagine it'll go even faster now that I've begun. optimistic for the future!

Turns out calluses are actually useful. Now I can lift grocery bags without them slicing through my hands!

[QUOTE=PredGD;48972124]shit, it's insane how many calories are in chocolate bars and chips. I haven't actually changed my diet around that much, all I've done is cut out snacks and properly size my dinner portions. most of the calories have disappeared through me not eating snacks. it's crazy to think I would often eat a bar of chocolate (which lies at a whopping 1026cals!!) and a bag of chip with that (which I believe sits around the same amount of cals, haven't had the chance to check yet). that alone is over my max allowed amount of cals a day at about 2000cals! max is 1800. ate a chocolate bar today seeing as I used to love them and it's Saturday, I must have my cheat days, right? I wasn't expecting it to be as calorie rich as it was, but I still ate it. surprisingly it made me feel a little ill and you could almost say I was a little stressed out by eating it when thinking of all the calories I was consuming. felt a little sickening. I think it's gonna be easy to cut out snacks after this experience. might eat a little 300-400cal chocolate bar every now and then, but that's well within my calorie budget. I ate one the other day, didn't have to make any changes to my meals and I still only had 1400cals that day. I've also begun missing the gym despite only having been there twice so far. I think that's a great sign! I have one concern however, I'm scared I might be eating too little. I don't know if I'm in the "starvation" zone or not. on Thursday I ate 1430cals which is reasonable, though that was with a 364cal chocolate bar which I don't eat everyday. yesterday I ate 936cals, but didn't log a medium sized popcorn I ate at the cinema since I had no way to weigh it. I think for every 100g there was something between 400-500cals. without the snacks I've been eating, I get 1000cals or less a day. MyFitnessPal warns me that I'm eating too little. is it okay to eat that little if I can keep it up or will this potentially hinder my workouts and damage my body? my body won't be eating up my muscles I hope? [editline]24th October 2015[/editline] also, lost 4kg from August to now without even making an effort to lose weight. I imagine it'll go even faster now that I've begun. optimistic for the future![/QUOTE] Good to hear all this mane. Popcorn isn't as bad for you as other types of food because it is mostly air (its just the flavouring that makes cinema popcorn unhealthy - be it sugar or lotsa butter and salt). Assuming you're a normal height and a guy you should definitely be eating more - just throw two cups of brown rice and a chicken breast or a pint of low fat milk and a handful of walnuts or something. Your body won't be breaking down muscle because you've just started but in a few weeks or so it will assume that you're going through a period of starvation and it will become far much more reluctant to burn your fat reserves. So basically for long term fat-loss you should be eating just a bit more (healthy) food. You are definitely allowed a cheat day to motivate yourself (and prevent binging on certain foods you crave throughout the rest of the week) but I would try and wean yourself off of chocolate. Dat shit is like crack and you will crave it more than other unhealthy foods (arguably - e.g. I'm a sucker for cheesy anything but apparently cheese is addictive too). Good luck.

Gynecomastia sucks balls.

[QUOTE=pdp;48977715]Gynecomastia sucks balls.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/d-aspartic-acid/10530634.html?affil=mpppc&affil=mpppc&kwds=43700005675329295&gclid=CJ248f6i3cgCFcZuGwodC6YMdg&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CPfGgf-i3cgCFUKG2wod47cJRA[/url] Try cycling this stuff, it's meant to give you a testosterone boost for a while (But levels will return back to normal) Anyone who has any idea what they're on about please elaborate on this, I just googled t-boosters to try get any info to help this fello

Sorry, but if my knowledge is correct, you cannot chemically remove problematic male breast tissue. I wouldn't waste my time with anything other than cosmetic surgery.

Last time I tried doing something about this I didn't pull through it properly. Anyway, I am roughly 5'11-6' foot and am 73 kg. 15 years old. This doesn't feel right, apparently it's normal for my age and height but physically it just doesn't seem normal. On top of that, I'd also like to get more... active, I guess? I can't exactly go to the gym or go for runs, so I'm stuck to home exercises. I do have a treadmill and I think there's some weights lying around here somewhere. Could anyone redirect me to somewhere where I might be able to get a plan to help me or if you're feeling kind even suggest one? [editline]25th October 2015[/editline] OH YEAH, I do have a bike though.