Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

[QUOTE=Lapsus;49105939]Down 15lbs so far, so I must be doing something right! Decided to try switching over to free weights and quickly learned that I straight up don't have the range of motion to do squats, so it's back to the machines for me until I can figure out what the fuck and how to fix it, I just can't get down more than a few inches before my heels shoot up, and that's probably not going to end well with anything more than the empty bar.[/QUOTE] I didn't have that range of motion when I started either, but it's no issue anymore now that I've done squatting for a few weeks. I imagine it might be harder to get the right form if you've been using machines all along and start at your current weight, maybe try doing some squats on an empty barbell, ramp it up some times and then go back to your current weight?

holy shit fuck OH presses. after my second set, I'm already failing to complete 5 reps [editline]13th November 2015[/editline] wound up doing 5 on the first set, 4 on the second and 3 on the rest. not cool. suppose I'll do the same weight next time as well. at least I pushed myself as hard as I could!

[QUOTE][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iTaRKIb.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Bulk began a few weeks back but I havent had a chance to weigh myself, I'm guessing 192-195lb. Diet is pretty much eat as much as I can, around 3 full meals every day, lots of snacking, 2-3litres of whole milk

[QUOTE=PredGD;49108781]holy shit fuck OH presses. after my second set, I'm already failing to complete 5 reps [editline]13th November 2015[/editline] wound up doing 5 on the first set, 4 on the second and 3 on the rest. not cool. suppose I'll do the same weight next time as well. at least I pushed myself as hard as I could![/QUOTE] you're supposed to do the same weight until you complete all your sets/reps with okay technique yes but OHP you have to be patient with, or just throw a tonne of volume at it do some accessory work for your triceps

Really hoping hit ~350 back squat/ 260 bench/ 260 clean and jerk/ 165 ohp/ in the next few months

[QUOTE=PredGD;49108781]holy shit fuck OH presses. after my second set, I'm already failing to complete 5 reps [editline]13th November 2015[/editline] wound up doing 5 on the first set, 4 on the second and 3 on the rest. not cool. suppose I'll do the same weight next time as well. at least I pushed myself as hard as I could![/QUOTE] Hey man, just keep at it. OHP is definitely one of the slower progression of the big 4, don't sweat it too much. Like Lukeo said, add some accessories. Dips are good.

it's bothering me a lot to look at the scale mid week. I weighed 95.1kg Monday morning, and now it's Sunday night and I weigh 97.2kg. it's not the most ideal as I've eaten, drank, and I wear clothes, but 2.1kg increase just by that? there's no way I'll lose 2.1kg by taking a shit, pissing and sleeping for the night. I haven't exactly gone insane when it comes to food, except for one day where I managed to eat 3400calories, but that was one day. other than that, I've been doing good below 1750, or in some rare cases, just a little above 2000 (one day I believe?) or somewhere between 1750 and 2000. [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/2015-11-16_03-07-19.png[/IMG] fluctuations makes me insane. I need to stop weighing myself mid week, but I keep saying it's okay since I'm on a calorie deficit and count calories, I'll obviously only go one way, but these fluctuations still happen. weight loss isn't as linear as I hoped which is discouraging, but I won't give up of course. I can only get rid of this fat by going through with this. I also bought myself a Fitbit Aria, a smart scale. automatically syncs my weight with MyFitnessPal so I don't need to log it, and it also measures bodyfat percentage somehow. apparently it uses some electrical signals to measure it, and its supposed to be pretty accurate. not dead on, but within a single percentage. always motivating to lose weight when you got fancy gadgets to measure stuff or help you along the way [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] don't suppose you guys know if it's possible to also sync the Aria with Libra? I find the weight loss chart in Libra to be more informative [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] holy fuck, I've been above 1750cals a day too many times lately. I've gotten too relaxed and eaten chocolate too much recently which makes it way too easy to go above. time to straighten back up and tell chocolate to fuck off

[QUOTE=PredGD;49123935]it's bothering me a lot to look at the scale mid week. I weighed 95.1kg Monday morning, and now it's Sunday night and I weigh 97.2kg. it's not the most ideal as I've eaten, drank, and I wear clothes, but 2.1kg increase just by that? there's no way I'll lose 2.1kg by taking a shit, pissing and sleeping for the night. I haven't exactly gone insane when it comes to food, except for one day where I managed to eat 3400calories, but that was one day. other than that, I've been doing good below 1750, or in some rare cases, just a little above 2000 (one day I believe?) or somewhere between 1750 and 2000. [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/2015-11-16_03-07-19.png[/IMG] fluctuations makes me insane. I need to stop weighing myself mid week, but I keep saying it's okay since I'm on a calorie deficit and count calories, I'll obviously only go one way, but these fluctuations still happen. weight loss isn't as linear as I hoped which is discouraging, but I won't give up of course. I can only get rid of this fat by going through with this. I also bought myself a Fitbit Aria, a smart scale. automatically syncs my weight with MyFitnessPal so I don't need to log it, and it also measures bodyfat percentage somehow. apparently it uses some electrical signals to measure it, and its supposed to be pretty accurate. not dead on, but within a single percentage. always motivating to lose weight when you got fancy gadgets to measure stuff or help you along the way [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] don't suppose you guys know if it's possible to also sync the Aria with Libra? I find the weight loss chart in Libra to be more informative [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] holy fuck, I've been above 1750cals a day too many times lately. I've gotten too relaxed and eaten chocolate too much recently which makes it way too easy to go above. time to straighten back up and tell chocolate to fuck off[/QUOTE] I think this further supports my totally anecdotal theory in that frequent weighing and calorie tracking just fucks you up instead of helping you. I mean shit, you'll usually feel "lighter" before you actually weigh yourself, so why be super anal about it and try to see if you lost weight within that last hour or day? Just like building strength and muscle, it is a gradual process that is better observed over weeks and months, not hours and days. I can't comment in depth on those fitness devices you asked about, but I do know that body % measurements are typically taken by measuring the time it takes for an electrical pulse to travel through the body. If I remember right, a slower time means there is more body fat, and vice versa.

[QUOTE=NO ONE;49124340]I think this further supports my totally anecdotal theory in that frequent weighing and calorie tracking just fucks you up instead of helping you. I mean shit, you'll usually feel "lighter" before you weigh yourself, so why be super anal about it and try to see if you lost weight within that last hour? Just like building strength and muscle, it is a gradual process that is better observed over weeks and months, not hours and days.[/QUOTE] I agree that frequent weighing may fuck up your motivation as it fluctuates so much. calorie counting though, I feel that is a pretty good thing to do. not exactly necessary to lose weight, but it makes it easier to know that you're doing the right thing, that you're within budget, when it's okay to take that chocolate bar or extra slice of bread, and so on. for me, I'd say that calorie counting is pretty necessary. if I didn't log calories, I would definitely over eat pretty much every day. that's just me though, calorie counting is something I just need to do. if I don't, I have no control over my intake and wind up eating too much. I've seen it time after time, after all of these years of trying to lose weight. this is the first time I've counted calories of all the times I've tried to lose this fat, and this is the first time I've seen real progress without starving myself.

[QUOTE=NO ONE;49124340]I think this further supports my totally anecdotal theory in that frequent weighing and calorie tracking just fucks you up instead of helping you[/QUOTE] i disagree, i think it completely depends on your mindset y'all need to understand that weight gain or loss will practically never be linear it becomes a problem when you base your feeling good on the amount of weight you lost i've also been counting calories religiously for the last 2 years or so, with a 238 day streak on mfp and fatsecret before that you just need to be pragmatic about it and not emotional. follow your goals, try not to do things that don't align with those goals, and keep in mind that you're not perfect and you're gonna cheat sometimes and feel bad sometimes and retain too much water sometimes and that is absolutely fine and part of the process [url=http://i.imgur.com/rkESZ9e.png]here's[/url] my weight graph, weighing in nearly every day after may. weight is not a perfect measure of progress, there's a lot of fluctuation even though i always weigh in first thing in the morning after getting rid of ballast. [url=http://imgur.com/a/R7rhD]here's[/url] a progress album for the same-ish time period, as you can see, nothing too dramatic, but a good bit of recomping, still a higher bf% than I'd like, but considering the amount of effort it took me to cut down i'm pretty glad with the progress so far, also this period has not all been cutting, I did 2 months at maintenance in the summer and doing a minibulk (+300~500Cal) right now till january my point is: if you're natty, this shit takes time and discipline and is uneven as fuck. don't freak out, and stick with it.

I tend to feel heavier before I weight myself. Here's my chart :v: [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85244099/Public%20Photos/P1030678.JPG[/img]

Here's my chart [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/hOdoNnq.png[/IMG] lost 2 stone on the dot since June, no white diet working out pretty well for me. I always weigh at midday on a Saturday. Sometimes fluctuate up a pound or get no change, but never up 2 pounds, being able to see the entire scheme of things rather than the fact I gained a pound last week really helps to stay positive about the whole process I think I'd be doing better and losing more consistently if I actually bothered to look up decent and interesting recipes (for my sanity) rather than eating the same shit most nights and tripping up mentally every now and then as a result

garlic powder and other spices are the salvation of chicken breasts

Ugh the struggle between choosing doing nothing and have free time for the gym, or get a job and get some cash to pay the gym with my own money and even buy other stuff, but I don't even know if I'll have time for the gym

[QUOTE=Fusnax;49126391]Ugh the struggle between choosing doing nothing and have free time for the gym, or get a job and get some cash to pay the gym with my own money and even buy other stuff, but I don't even know if I'll have time for the gym[/QUOTE] Why is there a struggle? Get a job. There's always time to work out, you just gotta treat it like leisure time, cut back on the less essential things like video games.

I have a job, study, lift and still have free time if I can do it, you can do it

Need more muscle? Lift trees. I lift trees all day. I have best muscle not some cheap showy inflated flab. Miniature but strong tree no kick my ass. Most decent wood is at least around 50 pounds per square ft!'when wet' Proper lifting technique is required, but they often have very nice rounded surfaces. Trees smell better than sweaty metal. It warms you at least twice if you burn it, and for that it is good in the winter time. Day is always good for lifting tree! Question though since I cannot eat tree. What good for eat, for decent workout of lifting trees? Any decent endurance diet for common work?

[QUOTE=Lukeo;49127219]Why is there a struggle? Get a job. There's always time to work out, you just gotta treat it like leisure time, cut back on the less essential things like video games.[/QUOTE] The thing is, the schedule is not defined since it consists of installing SKY and AC, and sometimes they leave until 8 PM, and the gym is not 24hr, so I guess some days I will have to skip going to the gym

Yeah a lack of time isn't much of an excuse. I have my son for 2 to 3 full days a week on top of a full time job and I still manage to make the gym 5-6 days out of the week. Just don't beat yourself up if you miss a day or two, it happens some times.

[QUOTE=bravojr;49129405]Need more muscle? Lift trees. I lift trees all day. I have best muscle not some cheap showy inflated flab. Miniature but strong tree no kick my ass. Most decent wood is at least around 50 pounds per square ft!'when wet' Proper lifting technique is required, but they often have very nice rounded surfaces. Trees smell better than sweaty metal. It warms you at least twice if you burn it, and for that it is good in the winter time. Day is always good for lifting tree! Question though since I cannot eat tree. What good for eat, for decent workout of lifting trees? Any decent endurance diet for common work?[/QUOTE] This just in! Lifting heavy things builds muscle. Doctors hate him!

[QUOTE=bravojr;49129405]Need more muscle? Lift trees. I lift trees all day. I have best muscle not some cheap showy inflated flab. Miniature but strong tree no kick my ass. Most decent wood is at least around 50 pounds per square ft!'when wet' Proper lifting technique is required, but they often have very nice rounded surfaces. Trees smell better than sweaty metal. It warms you at least twice if you burn it, and for that it is good in the winter time. Day is always good for lifting tree! Question though since I cannot eat tree. What good for eat, for decent workout of lifting trees? Any decent endurance diet for common work?[/QUOTE] U wot m8?

[QUOTE=bravojr;49129405]Need more muscle? Lift trees. I lift trees all day. I have best muscle not some cheap showy inflated flab. Miniature but strong tree no kick my ass. Most decent wood is at least around 50 pounds per square ft!'when wet' Proper lifting technique is required, but they often have very nice rounded surfaces. Trees smell better than sweaty metal. It warms you at least twice if you burn it, and for that it is good in the winter time. Day is always good for lifting tree! Question though since I cannot eat tree. What good for eat, for decent workout of lifting trees? Any decent endurance diet for common work?[/QUOTE] Try lifting cows instead, its pretty simple. You get a calf, carry it around with you every day, feed it nurture it so it grows. As it grows the weight your carrying around increases until eventually your walking around with 1800lb's on your back. Now thats real strength.

[QUOTE=lexus04;49125628]i disagree, i think it completely depends on your mindset y'all need to understand that weight gain or loss will practically never be linear it becomes a problem when you base your feeling good on the amount of weight you lost i've also been counting calories religiously for the last 2 years or so, with a 238 day streak on mfp and fatsecret before that you just need to be pragmatic about it and not emotional. follow your goals, try not to do things that don't align with those goals, and keep in mind that you're not perfect and you're gonna cheat sometimes and feel bad sometimes and retain too much water sometimes and that is absolutely fine and part of the process [url=http://i.imgur.com/rkESZ9e.png]here's[/url] my weight graph, weighing in nearly every day after may. weight is not a perfect measure of progress, there's a lot of fluctuation even though i always weigh in first thing in the morning after getting rid of ballast. [url=http://imgur.com/a/R7rhD]here's[/url] a progress album for the same-ish time period, as you can see, nothing too dramatic, but a good bit of recomping, still a higher bf% than I'd like, but considering the amount of effort it took me to cut down i'm pretty glad with the progress so far, also this period has not all been cutting, I did 2 months at maintenance in the summer and doing a minibulk (+300~500Cal) right now till january my point is: if you're natty, this shit takes time and discipline and is uneven as fuck. don't freak out, and stick with it.[/QUOTE] pretty much this, my journey from 162 lbs to 148 lbs has been a rollercoaster some days i'm back up to 154-155 lbs from eating tons/water weight/etc.

I'm slooooowly phasing out of caring about weight and going more off of what I see. I've been 240 before and haven't been nearly as big as I am now at 225-230, it goes up and down all the time but the best you can go off of is whether you can see the change in yourself

it's been months since i've last weighed myself i just honestly don't give a shit anymore

Gods of the Olympus I ask you for thy advice. As my Sambo trainer and my team has gone to Morocco, they have left me alone in this country for 1 month. In the mean while, I would love to train so as to get as much strength and explosive force as I can. Imagine you are doing judo and need to pull and get off balance people as fast as you can. That's what I'm aiming for. I need a strong as fuck core and some powerful shoulders. not aiming for looks or muscle tone. I'm currently 80kg, 1.79m. My gym routine is as follows: 45x4 abs (Different ones so as to vary and not use the same muscles over and over) 45x4 spinals (Different ones again) 15 secs x 3 isometric leg, forming a 90º angle with my back against the wall 15 secs x 3 plank 10x3 wide push up so as to work shoulders 5kg 10x3 lateral raises (Holding only one dumbbell at a time) 5kg 10x3 frontal raises (Idem above) 7.5kg 5x3 overhead raise with two dumbbells 20kg 10x4 seated row machine 40kg 5x4 calf raise machine 20 10x4 peck deck 40kg 5x4 seated frontal leg machine And some good stretches for 10 minutes. Advice please. What should I change? What should I take out? What am I doing wrong?

Might want some form of additional grip training if you want to go all the way, all the pulling power in the world's no good without a good grip in martial arts like judo. Stuff like hanging from a pull up bar/doing pull ups/climbing a rope depending on your strength level to develop both grip and pulling strength. Using a towel or other fabrics to hang from and do excercises with could mimic the fabric you need to grab. (please note I don't actually know what I'm talking about, I'm just repeating what I saw in a video :v:)

my back hurts pretty much as soon as I put the barbell on my back when squatting. it doesn't feel like my muscles are hurting, but it feels like something bone related is having issues keeping up with the weight. it's not coming from my spine though, at least I don't think so. is this normal when you're a month in? also starting to feel a lot of resistance on pretty much every exercise. things are no longer smooth sailing, things have become tough. I think I'm nearing the end of linear progression, especially now that every session is starting to get harder every time. that too, today is exactly a month since I begun lifting. I've only missed two sessions, mostly because I had no idea they closed as early as they did one Friday and I don't remember why I missed the other one, but that's only two sessions missed total which sounds good to me. [editline]18th November 2015[/editline] aaaand, I'm starting to get noticeable change on my body! my man tits are a lot smaller (though they weren't that big to begin with), my arms seem to have less fat and more muscle, my thighs have less fat, my butt is smaller in a good way, my face has gotten more defined, my back looks more defined (hard to get a good look, but that's my impression) and I think my belly is smaller as well, but I can't really see that much change from the front. when seen from the side, it seems smaller. [editline]18th November 2015[/editline] really upset about my overhead presses. the Stronglifts app told me to deload back to 25kg, 5kg less than last time. I really needed it, but man, that's only a 5kg increase after a month. even today I wasn't able to complete the last set, only made it to 4 reps. everything felt a lot tougher today than it usually does, might be the fact I didn't sleep tonight. compare that to squats where I'll be doing 50kg next time, that's 30kg heavier than when I started. then again, I think squats are fairly easy in the beginning. just gotta be patient, overhead presses are slow to take off

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;49136477]What am I doing wrong?[/QUOTE] If 'strength and explosive force' are your goals, then pretty much everything. Power cleans, power snatches and jerks for explosive force Squats, goodmornings, deadlifts for core and posterior chain strength All done with barbells and moderately heavy weight

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;49136477]Gods of the Olympus I ask you for thy advice. As my Sambo trainer and my team has gone to Morocco, they have left me alone in this country for 1 month. In the mean while, I would love to train so as to get as much strength and explosive force as I can. Imagine you are doing judo and need to pull and get off balance people as fast as you can. That's what I'm aiming for. I need a strong as fuck core and some powerful shoulders. not aiming for looks or muscle tone. I'm currently 80kg, 1.79m. My gym routine is as follows: 45x4 abs (Different ones so as to vary and not use the same muscles over and over) 45x4 spinals (Different ones again) 15 secs x 3 isometric leg, forming a 90º angle with my back against the wall 15 secs x 3 plank 10x3 wide push up so as to work shoulders 5kg 10x3 lateral raises (Holding only one dumbbell at a time) 5kg 10x3 frontal raises (Idem above) 7.5kg 5x3 overhead raise with two dumbbells 20kg 10x4 seated row machine 40kg 5x4 calf raise machine 20 10x4 peck deck 40kg 5x4 seated frontal leg machine And some good stretches for 10 minutes. Advice please. What should I change? What should I take out? What am I doing wrong?[/QUOTE] The main compounds are godly on your core provided it isnt heavily under-developed which im assuming yours isn't. Throw in sets of deadlifts and squats (preferably not on the same day). OHP and/or bench for shoulders. For explosiveness you can try out some oly lifts (clean, snatch etc), definitely not my strong area but they pretty much rely on explosiveness from what I do know. You can swap most of the leg exercises for squats, and most of the back exercises for deadlifts if combining them is too much, I mean you could probably form a solid routine just from the lifts I've listed really [editline]18th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=PredGD;49138442]my back hurts pretty much as soon as I put the barbell on my back when squatting. it doesn't feel like my muscles are hurting, but it feels like something bone related is having issues keeping up with the weight. it's not coming from my spine though, at least I don't think so. is this normal when you're a month in? also starting to feel a lot of resistance on pretty much every exercise. things are no longer smooth sailing, things have become tough. I think I'm nearing the end of linear progression, especially now that every session is starting to get harder every time. [/QUOTE] Had the pain as well when I got up to about 120 or so kg, I think its just your body adjusting if it's not too painful, mine went away pretty quickly at least