Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves
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[QUOTE=WhySoSeriouz;50097369]As someone already suggested, Stronglifts 5x5 is pretty good for starters (like me, yay!). Just start light and learn how to do everything with proper form first.[/QUOTE]
I've seen this recommended plenty of times and i look forward to starting it, but its been said i should be doing core stuff on top of that. any suggestions or should i just wing those?
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;50094138]Do you feel as though you're doing a pretty good job of maintaining your pace throughout that period? Maintaining consistency is about all you really need to do.
Distance vs speed?
For weight-loss, distance is going to be more effective. If you want to be faster, train to run the same distance in the same amount of time. Your body will adapt accordingly. Set a practical target (most people won't ever want to run more than 5 miles a day unless they're training for an event), and once you're consistently hitting it you can start to adjust the incline that you're running on (hills) or the pace that you're going.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, pacing is fine. I actually sped up at the last 10 minutes so I don't feel like that's a problem, and you said training for an event, I'm trying to condition myself for the best performance on military fitness tests which is going to entail long distances and speed. Is there anything to note particularly about training the two differently? Obviously long distance at a more comfortable pace, but will things like HIIT increase my two mile timing or should I just run the two miles at increasingly faster pace? One last thing I had to ask is form, I've heard quite a lot of things over my life/reading the internet and from what I've gathered the most important thing is keeping proper poster/staying upright and doing mid sole strikes? Do you have any anecdotal info?
Once again, thanks for the info and I'll be done interrogating you after this one :v:
[editline]8th April 2016[/editline]
If you're doing SL work some good accessory exercises into that, Dips, Pull ups, Rows. I've been doing SS up until a month ago with some good results. I also added in Bicep curls only on Fridays, and Lat pulldowns on my deadlift days.
Don't neglect form, I learned that a month ago, my form was shit on my DL and Squat and I've dropped the weight quite a bit so I can do it properly, as a result I found that my glutes are pretty weak so going ass to ground on my Squat is pretty hard now even at 2 plate and after getting some guidance from a state PL champ (This guy was so helpful, PL guys are the bomb) I found my DL needed work too as a result of shitty glutes and form. I found it to be humbling but I'd rather climb the stairs to my goal than get shot up in a cannon and fuck myself up if you know what I mean.
I haven't been doing upper body for 2 months because I broke my scaphoid.
I can feel my biceps shrinking, and I can't do anything about it for at least 4 more months.
You people are lucky. Savor your ability to go hard and pump out some god damn curls.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;50097625]Yeah, pacing is fine. I actually sped up at the last 10 minutes so I don't feel like that's a problem, and you said training for an event, I'm trying to condition myself for the best performance on military fitness tests which is going to entail long distances and speed. Is there anything to note particularly about training the two differently? Obviously long distance at a more comfortable pace, but will things like HIIT increase my two mile timing or should I just run the two miles at increasingly faster pace? One last thing I had to ask is form, I've heard quite a lot of things over my life/reading the internet and from what I've gathered the most important thing is keeping proper poster/staying upright and doing mid sole strikes? Do you have any anecdotal info? [/QUOTE]
You can probably increase your pace a bit in that case. Just make sure that you're pushing yourself, but not going crazy with it. If you build up the distance it'll be considerably easier to run the shorter ones, from there you could start doing more specific training like an HIIT program. You could probably do HIIT once a week and see some benefit.
As for the foot striking, I've not coached anyone before, you're right but I can't give much advice. [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/running/comments/26wy77/i_am_new_to_running_how_do_i_change_my_over/chvads3"]I can point you towards a guide. It has videos which are worth watching.[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Fremontsmith;50097576]I've seen this recommended plenty of times and i look forward to starting it, but its been said i should be doing core stuff on top of that. any suggestions or should i just wing those?[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/basic_exercises#wiki_core_work"]L-Sits are a good movement to do. Planche are pretty solid as well. [/URL]I would train both and do some body weight [URL="http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BWHyperextensionHead.html"]hyperextensions [/URL]if you have a setup for it. A mobility program will help with your progress on several exercises, and will help to prevent injury.
I personally think that light weight rotator cuff exercises are a must-do, keep it controlled and don't progress too quickly.
so i found out that my favorite after workout meal from panera really isn't that great for me, health wise and muscle-building wise (bacon turkey bravo w/ superfruit smoothie) and also expensive ($14)
so i've decided to start cooking at home, which is generally cheaper and healthier. anyone have any good resources for that kind of stuff? doing stronglifts right now so i'm focusing on building muscle and trimming fat. thanks
Wait you can spend $14 on panera bread but you cant buy PVC pipe? Bruh.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;50101526]Wait you can spend $14 on panera bread but you cant buy PVC pipe? Bruh.[/QUOTE]
sorry
[QUOTE=NixNax123;50101541]sorry[/QUOTE]
You don't have to apologize to us lol. Your priorities are probably wrong if you prefer a Panera meal over work-out equipment
no i just have anxiety to drive that far to home depot over the freeway
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
but can someone answer my question
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
also i won't be able to afford panera either as i will actually have no money soon so i'd rather spend it on food thank you
I don't even think you would get prosecuted over a pvc pipe, the owner would probably just feel bad for you and look the other way.
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
I'm not advocating a life of crime...
But I mean have you seen some of the guys in prison???
i'm making gains so i can steal workout equipment and beat up the guys in prison
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
wait can i just use my yoga mat for mobility exercises
update: i cannot
[QUOTE=NixNax123;50102041]no i just have anxiety to drive that far to home depot over the freeway
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
but can someone answer my question
[editline]9th April 2016[/editline]
also i won't be able to afford panera either as i will actually have no money soon so i'd rather spend it on food thank you[/QUOTE]
Why don't you save your money since you won't have any soon by buying reasonable meals, just saying. Bulk chickey is cheap.
Feeling good. Finished week 2 of Stronglift 5x5, and started doing Couch-to-5K with which I'm on W1/D2.
So far, the Overhead Press is by far the hardest exercise. Today was the first day that I didn't reach the full 5x5, doing 5/4/5/4/5 on the OHP. After doing only 4, I took a 5-minute rest, after which I was able to do 5 again. So I'm probably going to stick to 5-minute rests in-between OHP sets.
Also deadlifting 50kg/110lbs is fun, because it looks like a lot and you feel like a bodybuilder, but it's still not much of a challenge.
I'm also noticing small changes in my body, also because I've gone back to dieting. Before I started SL5x5, I was dieting for two months and lost 5kg/11lbs. I noticed that I was slowly gaining some back once I stopped calorie counting, so I'm back to MyFitnessPal.
tl:dr; good
[editline]10th April 2016[/editline]
Also I started all this self-improvement after moving out for college. Freshman 15 can suck my dick
OHP will go up the slowest, if youre adding 2.5kg to your 5x5 every 2 or 3 weeks then thats decent progress.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;50103608]Why don't you save your money since you won't have any soon by buying reasonable meals, just saying. Bulk chickey is cheap.[/QUOTE]
this is what I was asking in the first place. so you recommend just buying chicken in bulk? any specific way to cook it? I'd seriously eat that for every meal if it saved me money and was healthy
[QUOTE=NixNax123;50105481]this is what I was asking in the first place. so you recommend just buying chicken in bulk? any specific way to cook it? I'd seriously eat that for every meal if it saved me money and was healthy[/QUOTE]
If you want to go super-budget, get chicken livers. It's even cheaper than eating rocks and has great nutrition.
My go-to meal with chicken breasts is slicing it up into thin pieces and throwing in (brown) rice and broccoli with sriracha sauce. Easy as fuck to make and it came out to ~€0.70 a portion.
[QUOTE=rider695;50105608]
My go-to meal with chicken breasts is slicing it up into thin pieces and throwing in (brown) rice and broccoli with sriracha sauce. Easy as fuck to make and it came out to ~€0.70 a portion.[/QUOTE]
oh that sounds really nice. i'll try to go shopping today and pick up some of that. thank you! i've never actually cooked before so this should be fun.
If you don't know how to cook, right now is a great time, buy some spices and google some different recipes.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;50105679]If you don't know how to cook, right now is a great time, buy some spices and google some different recipes.[/QUOTE]
a lot of the recipes i find seem intimidating because a lot of the directions are vague on how to do some things. do you have any beginner recipes or something?
[editline]10th April 2016[/editline]
i like spicy asian stuff if that helps
[QUOTE=NixNax123;50105738]a lot of the recipes i find seem intimidating because a lot of the directions are vague on how to do some things. do you have any beginner recipes or something?[/QUOTE]
I'd say that a lot of decent beginner recipes are the ones that are on the back of boxes. I'm not sure how it's in the U.S. but here we have boxes with some ingredients to make recipes.
Like these: [url]https://www.google.nl/search?q=knorr+doos&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjat5r-sYTMAhVDoA4KHQtXD2YQ_AUIBygB&biw=1866&bih=1072&dpr=0.9#tbm=isch&q=knorr+gerechten[/url]
They're usually the recipes that are easy to follow. It's a good start imo, although they're not always the healthiest.
So yesterday I did 8x DL at 345LB's for AMRAP
That was a ~70LB improvement from my last one which was like 265 for 6x which was about a month ago.
[QUOTE=Asgard;50105754]I'd say that a lot of decent beginner recipes are the ones that are on the back of boxes. I'm not sure how it's in the U.S. but here we have boxes with some ingredients to make recipes.
Like these: [url]https://www.google.nl/search?q=knorr+doos&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjat5r-sYTMAhVDoA4KHQtXD2YQ_AUIBygB&biw=1866&bih=1072&dpr=0.9#tbm=isch&q=knorr+gerechten[/url]
They're usually the recipes that are easy to follow. It's a good start imo, although they're not always the healthiest.[/QUOTE]
ah, so it's like [url=http://www.bettycrocker.com/home/products/helper/chicken-helper]this[/url]
i'll start with those then and slowly add my own stuff
[QUOTE=NixNax123;50105738]a lot of the recipes i find seem intimidating because a lot of the directions are vague on how to do some things. do you have any beginner recipes or something?
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I'm gonna let you in on a little secret for cooking. The best way to learn is just go for it. At first you might make meals that you have to slightly force down but it is the best way to learn how to do it.
If you want a easy thing that to make to try the whole seasoning thing. Get chilli personally I used canned staggs because I'm too lazy to make it from scratch. Then add the following to your taste.
Brown Sugar (This makes it sweeter and helps balance the hot sauce)
Salt and Pepper
Garlic
Cinnamon (Careful on this one it's a strong flavor)
Hot sauce (This balances the sweet)
Bacon bits
I also add more ingredients like vegetables and cheese. The idea here is that you make something just by experimenting.
Chicken liver, mac n' cheese, broccoli, and mushrooms best post workout meal.
[QUOTE=cathal6606;50089208]No idea, think its cause the first bag of protein I got was some dodgy cheap stuff and it ruined me forever[/QUOTE]
ah, almost gave up on the whey as well because I got one of those flavors where you just can't have more than like 5 days worth of it, and I couldn't buy a new one cause that shits expensive so I had to push through it and it goddamn sucked
[editline]10th April 2016[/editline]
also foam rollers are pieces of god himself, I tweaked my back doing a single dead on 200kg and foam rolled for a long time after, pretty much good as new
My OHP, and particularly push press and power jerk are really starting to get hella good. Honestly starting to really love them now because it feels fucking amazing whipping 135+lbs overhead. Like I'm pushing a small person/girl over my head for reps :v:
But my snatch has really stalled. Haven't hit my PR of 135lbs for like 6-9months or some shit. Maybe not that long, but I can't remember snatching more than 125lbs for many months. I think even my snatch pull has improved. So I guess it helps narrow it down to technique.
Despite this and last semester hampering my consistency in the gym (aka missing workouts, doing abbreviated workouts), I still seemed to of made progress in the areas I felt I should focus on, those being my upper body/shoulders/upper back. Kind of surprised, but happy that however slow it was, progress has still been made!
@Waterpi, lacrosse balls offer even more god-like renewing, if you can take some pain initially. Whenever I use on my calves or hips, it hits so deep. Same with my scapulas as well, fairly painful due to tenderness, but oh so releaving afterward. Can pick one up for pretty cheap. If you order online the shipping will cost more than the ball :v:
Put a dash(2tsp) of sherry and sesame oil on your cut up chicken(about 500g), let it sit for twenty minutes, fry it up with some oil(I use peanut) and4-5 green cayenne peppers. Add 1tsp garlic, ginger, light soy sauce(maybe 2tsp, but make sure it's light soy sauce).
I translated the recipe from a Chinese one.
Easy, but I hope you like spicy.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/arQ6u8p.jpg[/IMG]
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Btw the sauce works with whatever, choose a vegetable+meat and do the same thing.
It's not a heavy sauce though, so if you like more oomph or want rice with it/don't like plain rice then do something else.
I make fried rice with similar ingredients, just add a bit more soy sauce. Tons of egg for protein.
[editline]11th April 2016[/editline]
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How I actually eat.
Can you guys give me some tips on the split I'm doing?
Monday: Chest/Abs; Bench Press, Incline Bench, Butterfly, Decline Bench, Dumbbell Flys, Cable Crossover, AbCoaster, Crunches
Tuesday: Back; Deadlift, Pull-up, Bent-over row, Lat Pulldown
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Shoulders/Abs; Shoulder Press, Lat Raise, Front Raise, Upright Row, Pull Side-Lateral, Arnold Dumbbell Press, AbCoaster, Crunch
Friday: Legs; Squats, Leg Press, Leg Extension, Inverse Leg Curl, Hack Squat, Standing Calf Raise
Saturday: Arms/Abs; Preacher Curl, Hammer Curl, Bicep Curl, Skullcrushers, Tricep Extension, Reverse Curl, AbCoaster, Crunch
Is this good? I feel like I should add some lifts to some days but I figured I'd get a more experienced opinion.
Didn't you just start? Why a bodybuilder routine? Just do SS/SL if you are a newbie, doing isolation stuff like that is like shooting BB's at an Elephant at a beginner level, the routines are designed for newbies because they're optimal and you'll have enough rest on an AxBxA rotation.
If you're not a newbie ignore me.
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