Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves
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If y'all wanna keep knee pain at bay, ice your knees after you lift, stretch a LOT, and take fish oil supplements. Also take it easy on the squats for a while, helps a lot.
[editline]11th February 2015[/editline]
Also I squat cleaned 175x3, 185x3, 195x3, 205x2, 215x1 today, after a 135x10 warmup. Feltgoodman.jpg
After that I front squatted aaaaand now my legs r ded
[QUOTE=KorJax;47113665]If you are gaining muscle you'll notice the muscle gains much more than fat gains
I.e. I have a decent layer of fat over my muscles but my actual muscles are what looks visible and defined. You look fat when your fat is significantly more than your muscle size. This will never happen if you are gaining muscle at the same time unless you have a ton of fat from dirty bulking (going crazy "no limits" on calorie consumption) or never cut over a long period of time. In both cases you get the lumberjack/strongman look going, and still never truly look fat.[/QUOTE]
Not gonna look into it right now but from what I recall the easiest way to put on mass and muscle and make gains is by just eating at TDEE + 500 and then basically hitting carbs and calories. That will put on both fat and mass but its efficient right?
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;47086617]3 weeks intense lifting yeah, I mean I've always had dumbells and did an alright amount of exercise since the age of 15 or so.
Tren ace is less likely to cause gyno compared to test which is why I am taking it, dbol and test is pretty androgenic whilst I find tren and dbol quite manageable
I have previously done a month cycle of 30mg dianabol before christmas, got a little "test flu" but pulled through fine so this is my stacking the dbol with tren now, 2 months later
I always aspirate the needle to check for blood, I have yet to find any blood enter the needle after doing this and I slowly inject taking 1-2 minutes for 0.5cc's of tren
I alternate between right glute, left shoulder, left glute, right shoulder. Shoulder is the worst tho, for some reason it hurts[/QUOTE]
wow this is gold. i thought i was reading a gimmick at first
[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;47111904]Can anyone suggest an iPhone app to record all my weights and shit
Most of them seem to just be super complex when all I want to do is
choose the exercise
write what i lifted with amount of reps
date it
be able to look at my previous one easily[/QUOTE]
Ive been thinking about this so I just downloaded strong for my iphone and im gonna start using that. Apparently theres tons of apps and i've been behind on that game as well.
I took a picture of my back yesterday and I was shocked at the progress I've back to be honest.
Last time I properly saw my back I was a super boney cunt and all you could see was my spine/shoulder blades.
GYM IS LIFE
[QUOTE=MadPro119;47117095]Not gonna look into it right now but from what I recall the easiest way to put on mass and muscle and make gains is by just eating at TDEE + 500 and then basically hitting carbs and calories. That will put on both fat and mass but its efficient right?[/QUOTE]
Close but hit both protein and calories
By and large carbs/fat/etc really don't have a significant effect on body composition, its pure calories (and for muscles) pure protein.
You still want to have some sort of balance between carbs/fats/etc because you'll be able to hit diet/workout goals much easier and much more healthily if you aren't on a diet that is 70% fat or some shit. Most people will find though if they focus on hitting calories and protein, the rest of their diet tends to fall into place with only 5% variation either way in carbs/fat composition, which is completely insignificant.
All the fad diets that focus on no fat, red meat, no carb, etc are all just bullshit fads. The only reason why they work is because they are effective at getting you full on less calories, but that is true of pretty much anything that is wholesome and mindfully cooked (vs fried, full of preservatives, etc). You can do that with anything as long as you aren't eating mcdonalds, junk food, soda, etc all day.
damn these brownies got me fucked up
Havent been in here to update since the last thread.
I'm now able to do 40 pushups and 35 situps in a minute. Got my 1.5Mi to 10:45.
Playing two physical sports helped this a lot.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47120198]Havent been in here to update since the last thread.
I'm now able to do 40 pushups and 35 situps in a minute. Got my 1.5Mi to 10:45.
Playing two physical sports helped this a lot.[/QUOTE]
by joshdamif standards, you're ready to start roiding, bro
just make sure you got a barbell for ultimate roid gains
[QUOTE=loopoo;47120837]by joshdamif standards, you're ready to start roiding, bro
just make sure you got a barbell for ultimate roid gains[/QUOTE]
Fuck that. I'm going to just maintain this now. Not really looking to do more. Trying to work on lower back strength now
ate a bacon cheese burger, some cheddar cheese and mayo fries and onion rings with bernaise sauce.
damn
bacon cheese
where does one acquire bacon flavored cheese
I must know
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;47121216]bacon cheese
where does one acquire bacon flavored cheese
I must know[/QUOTE]
By milking pigs.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;47121216]bacon cheese
where does one acquire bacon flavored cheese
I must know[/QUOTE]
they laid bacon upon the cheese.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47120853]Fuck that. I'm going to just maintain this now. Not really looking to do more. Trying to work on lower back strength now[/QUOTE]
are you sure m8
i mean josh obviously has it down, you gotta roid up and do 50 curls in order to get massive bicepz
who needs back/shoulder/leg/chest/abdominal muscles when you have biceps
the dilemma of wanting to rate funny cause it made you laugh or agree to carry on the blatant sarcasm.
joshdamuff, you're a silly goose. may you and your children's children be afflicted with roid induced gyno
Guys what supplements should I get, I have some protein powder and creatine tablets. Anything else or a specific product I should get?
I live in the UK so easier if I can buy it from here
nah protein is all you need
Did 4 reps of 305 lbs deadlift today. However, my back was rounding like crazy towards the end but I still got all the reps. Do they still count even if you round?
[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;47122186]Guys what supplements should I get, I have some protein powder and creatine tablets. Anything else or a specific product I should get?
I live in the UK so easier if I can buy it from here[/QUOTE]
I use preworkout
Not necessary but it does really help with energy and getting a powerful workout in since I often have to workout at times where I'm gonna be feeling lazy or in a "winding down" mode.
This is the stuff I currently use, pretty great value (45 servings), not too strong flavor wise but very concentrated so it really kicks you into gear:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Ubervita-Extreme-Workout-Thermogenic-Supplement/dp/B00I9J7KSY/ref=pd_bia_nav_t_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=13KYCF08915RRZ7K9Z7Z[/url]
Also bonus points is I got a card with mine where if I email them and rate their product on amazon they send me a 2nd one free. Sure its "bribery" but I gave an honest review
Does anyone have an opinion on doing sumo deadlifts, but with a dumbbell in each hand instead of a barbell? It's just that since moving town I've changed my gym as well, but this gym has like almost no room at all for free weights; a third of the space is taken up by benches and the other two thirds by machines. It's meant I've had to do deadlifts inside one of the two squat racks, but that's obviously gonna mean I might hold up someone who wants to do squats (even though 9/10 people use the squatting machine instead). If I use dumbbells i won't be taking up as much space and so I won't need to be in a squat rack.
And just a secondary question, how effective are sumo deadlifts compared to conventional ones? It's just that I seem to struggle to keep good form doing conventional deadlifts, but not so with the sumo.
Whether you do conventional or sumo is more down to which works with your body type (either long arms, short legs or vice versa) than one being definitively superior than the other. That being said, sumo has gained a lot of traction in the past x amount of years, in part because it really does appear to be better, however slight the difference may be. I still do conventional.
[QUOTE=milktree;47122729]Did 4 reps of 305 lbs deadlift today. However, my back was rounding like crazy towards the end but I still got all the reps. Do they still count even if you round?[/QUOTE]
I mean, a rep is a rep, your body will still feel the work you did to do that rep. The body doesn't go "Well, that rep was shit, don't count it and make them do another one!". But, for your back's sake, lower the weight to non-back-rounding levels. Something is going on here (probably just too much weight), possibly your form is off.
5/3/1 still feels like a beginner routine ala Stronglifts to me, I don't really get why it's considered intermediate. Guess I should at least do a full month and see where it takes me.
I miss my split though, it gets boring doing the same 4 exercises one day per week. If/when I move back to splits, I'm gonna rock the fuck out of some lat pulldowns and barbell curls.
[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;47122186]Guys what supplements should I get, I have some protein powder and creatine tablets. Anything else or a specific product I should get?
I live in the UK so easier if I can buy it from here[/QUOTE]
creatine tablets are a rip off m8, powder is way cheaper
[editline]12th February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;47124549]5/3/1 still feels like a beginner routine ala Stronglifts to me, I don't really get why it's considered intermediate. Guess I should at least do a full month and see where it takes me.
I miss my split though, it gets boring doing the same 4 exercises one day per week. If/when I move back to splits, I'm gonna rock the fuck out of some lat pulldowns and barbell curls.[/QUOTE]
The difference between advanced and beginner routines seems to be that advanced routines assume your lifting heavy ass weight and that doing 5 reps at 85% of your max is going to leave you wrecked, or at least leave you with a lot of CNS fatigue. Assuming thats true then the problem with doing advanced programs as anything less than an advanced lifter is that you wont get worked hard enough.
I'm not even close to the stage where I should be doing 5/3/1 so to compensate for that I've started doing 3 sets of whatever the last set I'm prescribed for the day is, eg if I'm told to do 5 reps at 85%, I'll do 3 sets of 5 reps at 85%, followed by either a drop set or a few back off sets. Followed then by a shitload of assistance.
You might be wondering whats the point of doing 5/3/1 then instead of a more suitable program, and thats a good point. What I've found is 5/3/1 is the only program I'm able to stick with for more than a few months before I start plateauing and wanting to switch. Also its pretty versatile, you can used it for a base for anything, right now I'm doing oly lifting on top of it and it works out great.
I lift a lot more comparably on squats then bench, and my first squat day wrecked my shit. Did chest yesterday, and most of the working sets felt like baby weight. Think I may do a hybrid thing with a solid 4 or 5 sets of a compound and then 2 or 3 sets of a few different assistance exercises. Thinking back, that's pretty much what I did before.
It's just difficult to switch it up with the person I'm working out with because they're so new and each exercise has to be explained at length which really eats up a lot of time.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47123581]Does anyone have an opinion on doing sumo deadlifts, but with a dumbbell in each hand instead of a barbell? It's just that since moving town I've changed my gym as well, but this gym has like almost no room at all for free weights; a third of the space is taken up by benches and the other two thirds by machines. It's meant I've had to do deadlifts inside one of the two squat racks, but that's obviously gonna mean I might hold up someone who wants to do squats (even though 9/10 people use the squatting machine instead). If I use dumbbells i won't be taking up as much space and so I won't need to be in a squat rack.
And just a secondary question, how effective are sumo deadlifts compared to conventional ones? It's just that I seem to struggle to keep good form doing conventional deadlifts, but not so with the sumo.[/QUOTE]
Just deadlift infront of squat rack area if it isn't being used
If the deadlifting area is being used then I just do it over at the squat rack. I never mind when someone is doing something like that at the squat rack, its mostly stuff like doing barbell curls when there are better available places to do that.
(that said I did do barbell curls at squat rack yesterday but only because literally every other barbell was in use by a group of people and nobody was doing squats... plus it doesn't take long)
[QUOTE=milktree;47122729]Did 4 reps of 305 lbs deadlift today. However, my back was rounding like crazy towards the end but I still got all the reps. Do they still count even if you round?[/QUOTE]
you'll make your gains, but personally, going round-back always makes me feel kinda guilty
i can do 405x1 with a rounded back, but sometimes it makes me feel like my spine is gonna invert itself(even though ive never gotten any back injuries from DLing)
additionally, usually its about what you [I]don't[/I] do that leads to your gains. ie, you can max and rep out 305, but you'll probably make better gains at 275 or 255.
Not trying to start any shit but
So I let my gym membership expire, mostly because I was traveling for the past 3 months and forgot about it. I travel about 30-50% of my job, at times I can be gone a whole month or only back in town for a day or two.
I'm wondering if there is any other nation wide fitness gym that I can go to that isn't planet fitness. I really had no gripes with PF since I am not planning to nor want to body sculpt. More or less just burn the shit off I have to eat/drink because I work in IT and my diet can consist of the absolute worst stuff to put in your body if you are trying to maintain any level of fitness.
Did some googl'ing but can't really find much outside PF.
Anytime fitness? If you're a member of any specific gym you can still walk in to any other AF gym as if you're a member of that one too, like how I'm a member of AF in a town 20 minutes away but I work out at the AF in my current town. Doesn't cost anything extra, you just have to be a member for at least a month before you can do that.
I'm not sure how Anytime fitness gyms are in the US, like if they're similar to what I've heard about planet fitness or not. But in Australia each gym varies a lot. My current one has a punching bag while my old gym didn't, but my old gym had heaps of room for doing stuff like deadlifts. Most people who go seem to only use the strength machines, so there's never a shortage of free weights. Each one has a variety of cardio machines too.
[editline]13th February 2015[/editline]
But seriously, it's almost kind of ridiculous how little free weights are used. Like I've only ever seen one other person at my current gym do barbell squats in a squat rack, everyone else I've seen does squats in a machine like this
[img]http://www.keysfitness.com/images/products/kf-lphs.jpg[/img]
Why does that exist
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;47128717]Not trying to start any shit but
So I let my gym membership expire, mostly because I was traveling for the past 3 months and forgot about it. I travel about 30-50% of my job, at times I can be gone a whole month or only back in town for a day or two.
I'm wondering if there is any other nation wide fitness gym that I can go to that isn't planet fitness. I really had no gripes with PF since I am not planning to nor want to body sculpt. More or less just burn the shit off I have to eat/drink because I work in IT and my diet can consist of the absolute worst stuff to put in your body if you are trying to maintain any level of fitness.
Did some googl'ing but can't really find much outside PF.[/QUOTE]
i'm gonna start some fire here, but i honestly don't think planet fitness is really that bad.
[I]yes[/I], the lunk alarm is a fucking stupid as hell concept, and not being able to drop the weights loudly(you can still kinda let them fall though) makes it a bit difficult to practice your 1rm at planet fitness, but you take what you can get
they're fucking everywhere, and the price is dirt cheap. they're not lacking on weights either -- as long as you're not busy being [B]ULTIMATE WARRIOR[/B] (see [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLa64nVCXvc] here [/url] ) then you can probably get a decent workout in.
the color scheme is fucking atrocious, and it's obviously not a place for powerlifters who need to max themselves out to see their performance for a competition, but you can definitely get a good workout in
besides, if you find yourself needing to scream while dumbbell pressing 60 lbs, you should probably reconsider some things in life
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