Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

yeah if you aint cut you're barely gonna notice muscle gain anyway unless it's like more than 5-10kg of muscle

Cut started yesterday, dropping to ~3k calories from 5k+, working out 8 times a week over 6 days, (5 days gym, 3 football). Routines gonna look something like this [QUOTE]Monday Dips 5x5+ Db rows 5x8 Back squat to parallel 3x5 Ab + rear delt assistance 3x12+ Tuesday Snatch Work up to single/ double/ triple Ab work 2+ of the following Drop snatch Overhead squat Power snatch Tall/ hang snatch Wednesday Bench 3x5 Pull up 3xreps Front squat 3x8 Ab + rear delt assistance 3x12+ Thursday Clean and Jerk Work up to single Ab work 2 + of the following Clean pulls Power clean Squat jerk RDL Friday OHP 6x3 BB rows 3x5 ATG pause squat 3x5 Ab + rear delt assistance 3x12+ [/QUOTE] Looking to increase my core strength and oly technique The oly days, tuesday and thursday arent very strict. I'll just do whatever I think needs work on a given day. I dont expect much, if any progress on the strength days

as someone who's cutting at 1500 im officially envious

yesterday at the gym my arms got pretty tired very quickly, but they aren't very sore today (only when I lift them up). Should I use less weight, or more weight less reps?

Soreness is not an indicator of a good workout. The more the frequency of your workouts are, the less soreness you will experience aside from the very first week or two. On a 5 days routine, I would experience none at all and on a 3 days routine, I would only experience very little.

i've been working out for about 7 months now. is 12-15 sets per muscle group enough? i like to try to do 5 different exercises in 3 sets of 10 reps. like on a back/bi day i'll do: deadlift lat pull down seated row dumbbell row iso-back(?) machine curl standing preacher bar curl hammer curl endurance curl is that enough or should i up it?

Is rope jumping good for anything other than losing weight? I don't have any problems with that, but I want myself to look a bit more fit and not tire as fast when going to places. In case it works, how many jumps/how long should I jump per day (2 jumps per second) if my goal is just overall above-average fitness?

good for cardio and endurance, do it for 20+ minutes

[QUOTE=stupid10er;47416227]i've been working out for about 7 months now. is 12-15 sets per muscle group enough? i like to try to do 5 different exercises in 3 sets of 10 reps. like on a back/bi day i'll do: deadlift lat pull down seated row dumbbell row iso-back(?) machine curl standing preacher bar curl hammer curl endurance curl is that enough or should i up it?[/QUOTE] Tbh I'd probably do deadlifts on leg day seeing as your kinda pushing through your legs during the lift. It does work the back, but the lower back. But anyways as long as you aren't going over an hour for so many sets while still giving yourself breaks. Arguably too many curls though. Try cable curls and your biceps will be screaming at you to stop after only two sets.

[QUOTE=Monkey san;47413811]Cutting at 170 lbs nigga what what you cutting to 70 KG's? [editline]28th March 2015[/editline] gonna end up like my friend, was at around 74kg cutted to 65 or something. Ripped as fuck, no muscles. [editline]28th March 2015[/editline] pretty sure he used roids tho, he has veins as thick as my pinky and he's 65kg, its really fucked. [editline]28th March 2015[/editline] im pretty sure 1 or maybe even 2kg of your weight is just water, idk when you weigh yourself but thats a low weight to cut at man.[/QUOTE] I'm halfway through a cut right now and I'm 170lb lol Fact of the matter is I have a lot of chubb built up in stubborn places that I've never ever shaved off in my life My bulk figure didn't look bad but I'd rather start off my next bulk from a state of already being ripped or at least somewhat defined instead of pudgy in certain areas (especially in spots where my body loves to put fat - my face/chin, butt+legs, etc) Also my ideal body goals would be something like your average 160-175lb football player who isn't massive but noticeably built with not much fat on him [editline]29th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=stupid10er;47416227]i've been working out for about 7 months now. is 12-15 sets per muscle group enough? i like to try to do 5 different exercises in 3 sets of 10 reps. like on a back/bi day i'll do: deadlift lat pull down seated row dumbbell row iso-back(?) machine curl standing preacher bar curl hammer curl endurance curl is that enough or should i up it?[/QUOTE] Thats prob enough I shoot for 16-22 total sets for an entire workout and I work two muscle groups a session except on leg day [editline]29th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Antdawg;47416827]Tbh I'd probably do deadlifts on leg day seeing as your kinda pushing through your legs during the lift. It does work the back, but the lower back. But anyways as long as you aren't going over an hour for so many sets while still giving yourself breaks. Arguably too many curls though. Try cable curls and your biceps will be screaming at you to stop after only two sets.[/QUOTE] Deadlifts are more of a back exercise than a leg exercise if you do them right but they work pretty much your whole body really well The biggest reason why I don't do deadlifts on leg day is because fuck doing those and squats the same day.

Deads and squats on the same day is godlike. During my powerlifting days i loved to do them it fucked you up good.

[QUOTE=KorJax;47417324]Deadlifts are more of a back exercise than a leg exercise if you do them right but they work pretty much your whole body really well The biggest reason why I don't do deadlifts on leg day is because fuck doing those and squats the same day.[/QUOTE] I think it might depend on the variation, such as stiff-legged, conventional, or sumo. I do conventional and I definitely feel that in the legs. I do them on the same day as squats due to my two on - one off routine. Wouldn't be wise to do squats one day and deadlifts the very next, but on the same day it doesn't feel like a problem. I've set my 5 rep personal record on deadlift only fifteen minutes after four sets of squats. I think the names for bicep+back and leg splits are a bit misleading. Yeah deadlifts work out your back, but I think the idea of that split is to focus on the movements associated with the mid to upper back and biceps, such as barbell rows and pull-ups. That's just how I see it at least.

Im on that pretty much permabulk routine since I want to play offensive line in college, so I just eat heavy and lift heavier. I swear to god if I didn't lift I would be SO fat though instead of just like having average fat, i eat a pretty gross amount of food sometimes :v: Current Stats: Bench: 305 Squat: 395-400 DL: 435 Squat clean: 245ish All at 6'4" 265ish pounds, turn 17 in 2 months!

Been eating anywhere from 32 to 48g of fat from peanut butter alone lately @ 100lbs. Even though I'm trying to bulk, I'm starting to think this is a bad idea. Any thoughts? That aside, didn't even realize I was downing 1+ G's of water daily.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47421287]I'm 130 lbs, how many calories should I take in on a cut? Or more info needed? I'm going to start doing some serious calorie counting, I'm really skimping on my diet and it's showing in my results.[/QUOTE] 130 pounds? Unless you're like under 5 feet tall there's no reason you should be cutting, yet.

Two days ago, I did a fairly intense, but short yoga routine. The next day me and my wife stayed at a friend's house longer than we intended and didn't get home until very late so I wasn't able to workout. I usually go to bed and wake up fairly late, but for some reason I've felt like I'm made of lead all day and I've only wanted to sleep. I was doing one-armed push-ups when I collapsed and at that point I knew something unusual was happening. What the hell is going on?

[QUOTE=Deadman123;47420860]Im on that pretty much permabulk routine since I want to play offensive line in college, so I just eat heavy and lift heavier. I swear to god if I didn't lift I would be SO fat though instead of just like having average fat, i eat a pretty gross amount of food sometimes :v: Current Stats: Bench: 305 Squat: 395-400 DL: 435 Squat clean: 245ish All at 6'4" 265ish pounds, turn 17 in 2 months![/QUOTE] Nice stats m8, imagine what you'll be like in a few years, makes me wish I started lifting and bulking earlier.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47421287]I'm 130 lbs, how many calories should I take in on a cut? Or more info needed? I'm going to start doing some serious calorie counting, I'm really skimping on my diet and it's showing in my results.[/QUOTE] You aren't gimli are you? [IMG]http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121008105956/lotr/images/e/ec/Gimli_-_FOTR.png[/IMG] [editline]30th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cathal6606;47422403]Nice stats m8, imagine what you'll be like in a few years, makes me wish I started lifting and bulking earlier.[/QUOTE] I'm kinda pissed I got depressed and stopped last year. Otherwise I would probably deadlift over 200kg now. But it's never too late.

If you're skinny or near underweight so is bulking a better thing to do before you cut. I went from 63kg to 70kg and still going, gonna cut a bit when I hit 80kg. When you're gonna cut mostly depends on your bodyfat because weight is affected by muscles also. Cutting is mostly for aesthetically reasons if I understand right.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47423462]I thought I should cut and then go for gains? Or do I need something to cut from first?[/QUOTE] you're 58kgs, cutting isn't worth your while. you'd benefit more from bulking.

[QUOTE=kimr120;47423356] I'm kinda pissed I got depressed and stopped last year. Otherwise I would probably deadlift over 200kg now. But it's never too late.[/QUOTE] I'm pissed at the amount of times I've got injured and had to stop. Last december I was deadlifting 150kg, I broke my rib and got really sick soon after. It took an entire year for me to get back to deadlifting 150.

I'm pissed at the amount of times I've gained strength in a lift only to stall the fuck out, basically landing me back at my starting point fuck's sake

[QUOTE=NotMeh;47425664]I'm pissed at the amount of times I've gained strength in a lift only to stall the fuck out, basically landing me back at my starting point fuck's sake[/QUOTE] i stalled 32.5kg OHP today after stalling 30kg OHP the other week lol slow and steady

figured I'd crosspost this from super friendly thread if any of you need motivation as well ------- [QUOTE=Cosa8888;47419282]I hate how I can't seem to get any enjoyment on physical activity. I just can't keep going because the only thing I get from working out is a lot of sweat, shortness of breath for a few hours, and awful pain during the next three days. No satisfaction. No gratification. Nothing. It sucks.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Cosa8888;47426390]Ok guys, since you are the lords of physical activity, I want to know if this is normal and if it can be fixed (posted on STGYM a few days ago):[/QUOTE] that pain is EARNED pain it is PRIDE pain you sit down on your throbbing ass and you feel GOOD because your muscles are getting bigger you look in the mirror and see your swolen muscles bulging and veiny, and after a while your clothes start getting tighter, your chest gets bigger, your arms get thicker, your legs become tree trunks you are the most powerful being on the planet right now all that sweat is your old weak self leaving the body, the shortness of breath is your lungs raping the air for more oxygen and that pain, like I said is the pain of progress that is your satisfaction that is your gratification also the chicks saying "wow your muscles are huge" also helps from this point forwards you notice other people..and they're mirin [editline]30th March 2015[/editline] really though when you first start working out you're using muscles that you don't really use a lot, and you're maxing them out and it hurts to get the gears turning for the first time, after you work out for a week or two and recover from (DOMS-delayed onset muscle soreness) you'll feel a lot less sore from workouts, excepting occasional really intense ones

aw yeah did a bodyweight clean & jerk @ 155 lbs almost broke my back though top lel

also today after waiting for a squat rack this massive guy using it said he was finished and shook my hand people really underestimate how friendly people can be in the gym no idea why he shook my hand though lol

had my a session with the personal trainer at my gym today. He ran me through a program and gave me a bunch of information sheets, it was a lot of fun. the walk home was killer and I feel like someone beat me up

[QUOTE=aznz888;47426439]aw yeah did a bodyweight clean & jerk @ 155 lbs almost broke my back though top lel[/QUOTE] u fat fuck

I figured out why I'm so tired lately. I've caught a bug that been making me congested and feel like sleeping all day. How should I work through it?

I'm starting to get nasty stretch marks on my inner bicep/shoulder/quads/calves. Has anyone here dealt with them, and how?