Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

[QUOTE=Nevermind.;46955768]It is "possible" to gain muscle while losing fat, but to my understanding it isn't optimal. If I were you I would bulk until I was where I wanted to be size wise and then cut. It greatly depends on where you are currently though. It's a lot easier to gain muscle and lose fat if you are just small and a lot harder to do if you already have a considerable amount of muscle. To add to this I personally find it a lot harder workout while cutting I also tend to be in a worse mood, but that's just me.[/QUOTE] I did it, it was slow, there was progress, but ultimately its either cut or bulk. Everyone wants to look lean and build muscle but in order to build muscle your going to have to eat a lot to gain it fast or eat a little and build it slowly. Its just a trade off that you have to deal with later. How it went for me was I stayed 210 for a solid 2 months, except I noticeably thinned out while getting slightly bigger. It wasnt as fast as bulking where in 2 months I've gone from 218 to 224.4. If I remember correctly I just kept my diet strict and healthy, but made sure I was eating enough to feel satisfied but not bloated or overfull. You can try it, imo just bulk if your already skinny (I forget your build) because chances are you wont get fat very fast at all.

I'm sorta skinnyfat. I'm a broad-shouldered, tall motherfucker, but all my fat collects around my midriff and chest and jaw. So for all intents and purposes, I look sorta skinny but big, but shirtless, I look not how I wanna look (it's not terrible, but it's not fit). I guess I'll just suck it up and bulk, then cut in a few months.

[QUOTE=Nevermind.;46955995]If you are just starting out lifting try to understand that everyone has to start somewhere. When I first started lifting at my high school I was almost the smallest kid in my H.S. I didn't get made fun of or anything besides the occasional joke, but it was nothing harmful. Trust me the hardest thing is getting over yourself and your own insecurities, it's not like other people in the gym actually care that you look small. I was pretty self-important and so I had trouble going to gym consistently because I thought other people were secretly making fun of me. Now that I'm older I realize how stupid it was to think like that. I think that a big reason why a lot of people stop going to the gym is because of this insecurity. If you can get over that and consistently go to the gym you won't regret it. I don't know anyone who has said "Wow just went to the gym consistently for a year I totally regret not spending that time elsewhere" In fact it's usually more along the lines of wow I wish I would have been more dedicated and spent more time on my diet etc. Just so you guys know when I was a freshman I couldn't even rep the bar on bench for 10. I was also ~99 lbs and not very good at any sport. Now I'm a senior and weighed myself at 195 last night and just found out I will have an opportunity to play college football. A lot can change in 4 years, it's the people who are consistent that end up seeing results in the long run, not the people that happen to start ahead of most people. Just a perspective of someone who has gone through being the smallest guy in the gym.[/QUOTE] Its a twisted mindset, I know I had a problem with being uncomfortable in the gym (sometimes I still do oddly enough) but its really dumb to think. Good to hear you came on top of a similar situation (almost identical) as myself. 90% of the people I meet at the gym are some of the coolest people around, always looking to help and support. What I actively try to do is drop the odd comment on someone who I haven't met but seen frequently, or even just seen one day and they looked like they were giving it their all. Comments like that stuck with me and really helped motivate me to continue, so I hope that whenever someone else hears a comment like that they get the same feeling. Dad found some grade 10 photos of me before the gym! Have some motivation you lunks! [thumb]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u423/Lawblind/2DB156B1-5CF6-4BEF-BC81-70A53D75624E_zpsyd9wmnya.jpg[/thumb] pussy slayin baby faced stud right here, check out those pipes! [thumb]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u423/Lawblind/0DA36F20-39AF-4EC1-86B8-EC9CB8B40D51_zpsp34ji6ub.jpg[/thumb] For those who are new, now 3 years later (2 years of lifting) [thumb]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u423/Lawblind/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/6DE96A82-F51D-42C2-8E4D-CABBCF1647DD_zpsbtciob2n.png[/thumb] This is the best I can get to a side arm shot on me right now for comparison to the first photo [thumb]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u423/Lawblind/B1DB6ED6-5E68-49A7-89C8-9DCBC97E68A5_zpse5rncyhm.jpg[/thumb] LIFT! It can take you great places!

christ you look like a completely different person

[QUOTE=Strontboer;46952478]After starting lifting about 5 months ago I just hit 8 x 175LBS on the bench today. So happy :v:[/QUOTE] I am very jealous, I started lifting about five months ago as well but my upper body just isn't increasing quickly in terms of strength. My squat and deadlift numbers keep going up without too much trouble but for bench and OHP the weight has barely increased for over a month.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;46956401]I am very jealous, I started lifting about five months ago as well but my upper body just isn't increasing quickly in terms of strength. My squat and deadlift numbers keep going up without too much trouble but for bench and OHP the weight has barely increased for over a month.[/QUOTE] I hit the same problem when I was going regularly a few months ago. I couldn't for the life of me seem to increase my bench or OHP. I recently got a gym membership again and while I'm looking forward to getting back in to the swing of things, I'm worried about hitting that same block. Anyone else faced this problem of weak/stagnant bench/ohp and overcome it?

My deadlift is twice my bench. Probably cause I did long distance running for years, so I can just push reps, but my arms got next to no attention.

i love how this thread is active as fuck right now and we have new people posting here maybe the move wasn't so bad afterall? [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] also paper, it *will* be debated by the others, but i found adding arms work (bis but also tris) really helped increase my bench and other lifts by a good margin.

calisthenics is fun, really fun can do 5 full ROM one-arm pushups now planche progression is in full blast as well feels great

[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;46946419]I'm not a tremendous fan of stacking PPL workouts without a rest in between. I give myself 2 rest days over the course of 8 days like a traditional PPL. Might change it up when I'm a little more advanced but I hate the burnout.[/QUOTE] i'd love to do that except my gym is closed on sundays, so theres only 1 rest day for me. oh well [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;46956557]i love how this thread is active as fuck right now and we have new people posting here maybe the move wasn't so bad afterall? [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] also paper, it *will* be debated by the others, but i found adding arms work (bis but also tris) really helped increase my bench and other lifts by a good margin.[/QUOTE] isnt it because you use your tris when you bench? i mean, maybe your tris have lagged behind your chest so working on your tris could help increase your bench

Super hype for joining MMA classes. I feel like weightlifting has started me on an onwards and upwards curve in my life. Serious boost to self-esteem and confidence, I fucking love it. No way in hell I'd have ever had the guts to join a martial arts group, but now I feel like since I conquered my fear of the gym, there's no reason for me to not do the same with MMA. Always wanted to do it, but always felt self-conscious about it. Feels good!

[QUOTE=NotMeh;46956565]calisthenics is fun, really fun can do 5 full ROM one-arm pushups now planche progression is in full blast as well feels great[/QUOTE] Just tried to do this and I couldn't. Now I'm jealous what program did you use to get to that point?

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;46956557]i love how this thread is active as fuck right now and we have new people posting here maybe the move wasn't so bad afterall? [/QUOTE] it'll be people asking the same questions over and over again, even though I don't mind as long as it helps motivate some people

How many warmup sets do you guys do for deadlift? Made the mistake of no warm up cardio and a single warm up set of 135 before jumping to my working set of 235 and it was brutal. My lower back was on fire afterwards, which I thought was nice at first until it was intense pain rather than a dull ache. Went away once I moved onto biceps thankfully. On top of that, I did bent over BB rows for the first time in ages and my form was shit so I hurt my shoulder. And I sprained my ankle this morning. Fuck injuries man. I've just hit my 1 month mark back at the gym, but I'm still noticing my forearms are still so tight and tense after doing back that my bicep workouts really suffer because of my wimpy grip strength post-DL. Do I just work through it or what?

Just be careful of not injuring the tendon in your arms. Proper form on bicep curls, and not using ridiculous amounts of weights. I made the mistake of doing that, and I still suffer from the consequences. I couldn't use free-weights for the longest time. I've found better alternatives, cables, etc... that don't put as much strain on the wrists and tendon. If I absolutely had to use free-weights, hammer curls is the most I would risk.

You see this shit [thumb]http://tkfitnessla.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hipadductor.png[/thumb] They didnt draw a face because it isnt possible to convey the level of agony this machine creates The first 5 reps felt like I was ripping my ballsack/gooch im half. Every rep after that could only be compared to a pain similar to giving birth. I walked like I had just been raped afterward and had a insatiable desire to sway my hips like some top hoe. But oh god, the after pain, we didnt expect it. Day after, not that bad. Two days after HOLY SHIT IT HURTS TO EXIST. I called my workout partner up and he was doing the exact same thing, lying in bed writhing in agony. We did 150x10 and went up to 295x10 in incremements of 15 pounds I think so 9/10 dropsets back to back. Definately overkill So doing these again

[QUOTE=Kiamberm;46956507]I hit the same problem when I was going regularly a few months ago. I couldn't for the life of me seem to increase my bench or OHP. I recently got a gym membership again and while I'm looking forward to getting back in to the swing of things, I'm worried about hitting that same block. Anyone else faced this problem of weak/stagnant bench/ohp and overcome it?[/QUOTE] I've found the best way to improve those lifts, and any lift really, is to increase the volume and intensity of what your doing. I like to do a few sets of heavy triples and doubles after I'm finished my work sets followed by a final set of light weight in the 8-12 rep range.

[QUOTE=Nevermind.;46957019]Just tried to do this and I couldn't. Now I'm jealous what program did you use to get to that point?[/QUOTE] the thing with most bodyweight stuff is that there isn't really a 'program' for it, but rather a 'progression' that you have to follow for each individual bodyweight exercise if we're talking about one-arm pushups, I think this video is really helpful [video=youtube;KAppDdA8G3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAppDdA8G3g[/video] as for planche, it's a muuuuch more advanced move and [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw0kXtvOpfU"]looks very impressive once you get it down[/URL]

new goal is to planche after i get back to 75kg fuarrk that seems like a great party trick and that it would later lead to handstand pushups

[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;46958338]You see this shit [thumb]http://tkfitnessla.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hipadductor.png[/thumb] So doing these again[/QUOTE] ah the yes/no machine

My only problem going to a gym is how or where i need to start. The biggest gym in my town gives me a great discount since the place i work at has a partnership with the gym so it's very tempting to start.

Anybody here watch Buff Dudes videos on Youtube? I was doing some of their at Home workouts using dumbbells, for triceps and biceps, and after doing them my arms are still killing me. Anybody have an opinion on them?

RIP Greg Plitt, hit by a metrolink train what a way to go

so i googled Greg Plitt [img]http://i.imgur.com/D8FAspw.png[/img] wow way to rub it in lol

[QUOTE=loopoo;46955731]If I'm doing a starting strength routine, can I eat at a caloric deficit, whilst still hitting my protein goals and not hamper my strength gains? Or does starting strength greatly rely on eating at a caloric surplus? I just feel like I'm not where I wanna be, I used to have a killer jaw, but nowadays it's covered by a thin layer of fat. I'd love to shed that whilst also putting on muscle, but if it comes at the expense of fucking up my gains, I'd rather just keep on eating at a caloric surplus, chubby jaw or no.[/QUOTE] You'll generally only tone up or keep your muscles from being eaten away if you are at a cal deficit while also trying to strength train so its really not optimal Keep in mind your body needs cals to build muscle, and when you are at a calorie deficit it is going to be short on cals to do that. As a matter of fact the only thing the body likes burning off more than fat to get around calorie deficit is muscle. Which is why if you are cutting but not exercising you'll lose muscle AND fat. This is why people generally work out to maintain muscles while on a deficit and then worry about actual strength building when eating at a surplus. [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;46957540]How many warmup sets do you guys do for deadlift? Made the mistake of no warm up cardio and a single warm up set of 135 before jumping to my working set of 235 and it was brutal. My lower back was on fire afterwards, which I thought was nice at first until it was intense pain rather than a dull ache. Went away once I moved onto biceps thankfully. On top of that, I did bent over BB rows for the first time in ages and my form was shit so I hurt my shoulder. And I sprained my ankle this morning. Fuck injuries man. I've just hit my 1 month mark back at the gym, but I'm still noticing my forearms are still so tight and tense after doing back that my bicep workouts really suffer because of my wimpy grip strength post-DL. Do I just work through it or what?[/QUOTE] Just one Usually not a big deal since I focus on my form hardcore when lifting Once I get to higher weights where my grip strength becomes an issue or I'm doing 3-ish reps per set I'd prob want to do more [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Valon Kyre;46958338]You see this shit [thumb]http://tkfitnessla.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hipadductor.png[/thumb] They didnt draw a face because it isnt possible to convey the level of agony this machine creates The first 5 reps felt like I was ripping my ballsack/gooch im half. Every rep after that could only be compared to a pain similar to giving birth. I walked like I had just been raped afterward and had a insatiable desire to sway my hips like some top hoe. But oh god, the after pain, we didnt expect it. Day after, not that bad. Two days after HOLY SHIT IT HURTS TO EXIST. I called my workout partner up and he was doing the exact same thing, lying in bed writhing in agony. We did 150x10 and went up to 295x10 in incremements of 15 pounds I think so 9/10 dropsets back to back. Definately overkill So doing these again[/QUOTE] I should prob throw thses into my leg day All I do atm is squats, leg press, calf raises, leg curl and leg extension with an appropriate number of sets and reps for each. All the other possible leg exercises usually seem like they just do the same thing these ones do but worse or with more awkward form. What kind of part of the leg does that stuff do?

damn just heard about the death of Greg Plitt great guy real inspiration RIP

[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;46958338]You see this shit [thumb]http://tkfitnessla.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hipadductor.png[/thumb] [/QUOTE] I've always heard that the abductor/adductor machines are terrible and only cardio bunny types take them seriously but I started incorporating them into my leg day for a while and it's great isolation on the inner and outer thigh. I don't like how easily the adductor machine makes me cramp up though, in my hips that is.

Guys, is anybody here doing Texas Method? On intensity day I feel like I'm way too tired to set a deadlift pr after squatting and benching/ohp. My deadlift is lagging behind my other lifts and many times I can't even get the bar off the floor.

at my old gym some guys used to call that machine the 'sloot finder' because the girls who used it were always opening their legs (tbf they seemed kinda easy, the built guys were always gossiping about them as well)

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;46956557]i love how this thread is active as fuck right now and we have new people posting here maybe the move wasn't so bad afterall? [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] also paper, it *will* be debated by the others, but i found adding arms work (bis but also tris) really helped increase my bench and other lifts by a good margin.[/QUOTE] Would people really debate that? It only makes sense that arms will help in bench, its not just your chest. [editline]18th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Bucketboy;46959301]My only problem going to a gym is how or where i need to start. The biggest gym in my town gives me a great discount since the place i work at has a partnership with the gym so it's very tempting to start.[/QUOTE] To start do you want to build muscle and gain weight or are you trying to lose weight?