• Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves
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[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47472317]I have enough discipline give up anything in the service of my body, I just don't know what I'm doing most of the time. However, I did manage to gain 10 pounds of muscle without increasing my bodyfat percentage in 6 months using only bodyweight exercises.[/QUOTE] 10 pounds of lean muscle from bodyweight exercise? Boy you must have some crazy genes bc i've been lifting for muscle build about the same time and i've gained about 20 pounds of muscle and fat
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;47472347]How tall are you? [editline]6th April 2015[/editline] And 30lbs in 5 months isn't much. That's 1.5 pounds per week, most people shoot for 1-2 lbs per week, so you're on target.[/QUOTE] i'm like 5'7" but yeah my squat went from like 60 lbs to 190 lbs for 5 sets of 5 reps and my bench went from like 60 lbs to 135 lbs for 5 sets of 5 reps, so i'm slowly progressing along. still i have no muscle definition cause of the fat i've put on meanwhile
[QUOTE=dnqboy;47472447]10 pounds of lean muscle from bodyweight exercise? Boy you must have some crazy genes bc i've been lifting for muscle build about the same time and i've gained about 20 pounds of muscle and fat[/QUOTE] I have high testosterone.
i feel like my lats aren't getting very strong or big from 5x5 stronglifts tho, which is what i've been doing this entire time without stopping. but it seems to be working for all my other muscle groups, except calves, which i've been working separately and have seen good progress on [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] automerge broken once again
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47472359]What's your bodyfat percentage?[/QUOTE] generally hover about 14-16%
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;47472474]generally hover about 14-16%[/QUOTE] Damn, I keep looking for someone who can gradually get leaner and bigger at the same time. I usually hear it's impossible to do both of those at once, then I hear about someone who has. I've recently gained muscle without going up in bodyfat percentage, but I've been looking for a way to achieve an ideal masculine physique all year around. Not that that's terrible; that's about where I am, but I'm trying to go lower.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47472554]Damn, I keep looking for someone who can gradually get leaner and bigger at the same time. I usually hear it's impossible to do both of those at once, then I hear about someone who has. I've recently gained muscle without going up in bodyfat percentage, but I've been looking for a way to achieve an ideal masculine physique all year around. Not that that's terrible; that's about where I am, but I'm trying to go lower.[/QUOTE] you're gonna have to really cut out carbs and other bullshit, count calories and be super vigilant about it [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] basically just eat lean meat for every meal, and water
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;47472470]i feel like my lats aren't getting very strong or big from 5x5 stronglifts tho, which is what i've been doing this entire time without stopping. but it seems to be working for all my other muscle groups, except calves, which i've been working separately and have seen good progress on [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] automerge broken once again[/QUOTE] Isn't the only mid/upper back exercise in SL 5x5 the barbell row? Shouldn't you be doing things like pull-ups/lat pulldowns (same thing) to target your lats? I haven't done SL but from what I've seen of it I don't think it does enough without accessory exercises [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=PollytheParrot;47472635]you're gonna have to really cut out carbs and other bullshit, count calories and be super vigilant about it [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] basically just eat lean meat for every meal, and water[/QUOTE] Is there even anything wrong with some carbs? Like I know sugar is shit to avoid generally, but what about complex carbs like oats and sweet potatoes.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47472858]Isn't the only mid/upper back exercise in SL 5x5 the barbell row? Shouldn't you be doing things like pull-ups/lat pulldowns (same thing) to target your lats? I haven't done SL but from what I've seen of it I don't think it does enough without accessory exercises [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] Is there even anything wrong with some carbs? Like I know sugar is shit to avoid generally, but what about complex carbs like oats and sweet potatoes.[/QUOTE] Funny thing is, I eat oatmeal mixed with Greek yogurt almost every day. Now I don't know if that's a bad idea or not.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47472205]Would having short cuts then short bulks be effective? I don't want to risk getting too skinny again and lately my wife has been getting horny whenever she looks at my arms. So what should I do?[/QUOTE] no, dont do on and off. Just cut. Bulking is always more effective at a lower bodyfat and you're more likely to commit to it as you won't be in a limbo where you're too fat to look good and yet too skinny to feel okay about leaning out. You won't lose any muscle cutting as long as your protein intake is adequate. Obese motherfuckers on a VLCD (literally less than 1000 calories per day) lost no muscle and they were sedentary. The idea that a guy who is cramming his face full of protein, fats and carbohydrates all day long and providing heavy stimulus for the muscles every other day would lose muscle from reducing calories for a few weeks? Ridiculous. Its a myth the fitness industry propagates wholesale so they can tell people to buy shit they don't really need.
When I lost fat and gained muscle my weight stayed the same but it was obvious I was getting bigger and leaner. I dont know if I can do that now, that was near the begining for me. Im 50/50 on continuing my bulk, I miss dem lean facial aesthetics and thin skin. My physique competition is in october so in reality I should just bulk till im a month or two out, but I want to lean out and look good for the summer. Maybe i'll just cut a little.
You'll generally be able to put on muscle and lose fat at the same time if you are new (less than a year into bulking/cutting) [url]http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html/[/url] Also it should be mentioned that carbs aren't really gonna have a big effect on fat gain/loss [url]http://examine.com/faq/will-carbs-make-me-fat[/url]
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47472466]I have high testosterone.[/QUOTE] i think you gained a bit of muscle (which can now hold more water, which adds more weight,) and a bit of fat. a lot of people are lucky if they can fit in 10 pounds of lean muscle in an entire year, let alone 6 months. i dont think you actually gained 10 pounds of pure muscle on a 6 month beginner bodyweight training program. im not so sure you can gain 10 pounds of muscle on a beginner weight training program in that timeframe either tbh. [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] whats your routine, im curious now
I'm a couple pounds under 160lbs, thanks to my vigilant eating since like mid November-early December up until now. I kinda think 165-170lbs would be nice, although my pants would definitely get tight and shit. But, bulking is harder for me than cutting. Especially with this college-work lifestyle, I don't always have access to good, calorie-dense food. I have to regularly reevaluate exactly what my lifting goals are on a weekly basis since consistency is harder to come by with my semi-limited schedule. Should I aim for another 5lbs/165lbs or so until like May or early June? And if I don't make that mark just cut? I'll probably naturally drop back down to around 150lbs. Seemed like when I wasn't purposely trying hard to eat and eat I'd hover around there. Also I should start looking in to comps to train for. Sooner I start getting some exposure the better. Even if I come in dead last thanks to my noob strength, I'll at least get a feel for how comps run. Although it would kinda suck not having a coach of some sort to guide me and keep me mentally in the game. I think for that my two options are either: 1. Recruit my powerlifting buddy since he has competition experience...even though powerlifting ≠ weightlifting, I think he could still help me. 2. Ask around Facebook some more. I'm part of some groups so there's bound to be some local people, even if they are only available for a comp.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;47474171]i think you gained a bit of muscle (which can now hold more water, which adds more weight,) and a bit of fat. a lot of people are lucky if they can fit in 10 pounds of lean muscle in an entire year, let alone 6 months. i dont think you actually gained 10 pounds of pure muscle on a 6 month beginner bodyweight training program. im not so sure you can gain 10 pounds of muscle on a beginner weight training program in that timeframe either tbh. [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] whats your routine, im curiouys now[/QUOTE] I said bodyfat [I]percentage[/I]; it would amazing if I hadn't gained [I]any[/I] fat. Although, I'm still hoping to lose some. It's not totally a beginner routine. Three times per week: 6x5 weighted chin-ups 6x5 weighted dips 6x5 incline weighted push-ups (Stopped using weight temporarily because of back) 30 second x3 Handstand holds at a 90 degree angle 12x3 ring dips 6x5 pistol squats (would add weight, but I don't quite trust my hamstrings yet) All other days except for one rest day per week: 20-60 minutes power yoga And then I do the 5 day a week Athleanx abdominal app. I'm actually trying to find a new routine though because I don't think I have enough variation and I [I]need[/I] to work on my legs more than I'm currently doing. I'm not really sure how effectively that can be done without weights, unfortunately. Reading what other posters said, I think I've been able to do this because my muscles aren't that big yet. They're still superior to the averages guy my age's, but a guy who has been hitting weights for a couple of years could probably easily outperform me. I've been working on my body for about a year, but I've never had access to a proper gym/weights and I've been making a lot of mistakes.
You do ring dips, but why not ring flyes? Excellent for the chest
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;47471856]This cut blows. Went over to lady friend's house and cooked french toast for breakfast. That, a poppyseed muffin, an espresso, a protein bar, a sandwich, and some eggs are all I've eaten today in addition to my protein shake and I've already hit my calorie goal for the day. I hate being hungry all the time but I need dem abs[/QUOTE] Thats what i say, when you get a chick it's literally impossible to not eat shit. Suddenly she wants to go on dates and sit and eat out. She wakes you up with food and shit, she wants to be cosy so she brings chocolate and soda when you chillin with netflix at night. Like lmao [editline]8th April 2015[/editline] but i lifted for moments like those so like whatever.
[QUOTE=cathal6606;47452393]This is a good place to start The /owg/ thread on fit has a lot of good stuff too And yea they're full body[/QUOTE] sweet thanks man, I'll try give them a shot this weekend
[QUOTE=NotMeh;47480518]You do ring dips, but why not ring flyes? Excellent for the chest[/QUOTE] I don't have proper rings, I just rig stuff which limits me somewhat.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47482553]I don't have proper rings, I just rig stuff which limits me somewhat.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.muscledriverusa.com/MDUSA-Standard-Wood-Gymnastic-Rings--125-in-Diameter--Pair-Free-Shipping-_p_2467.html[/url] I own a pair of these. High quality, has a lifetime warranty. Looks like you have a very solid routine. How much weight do you add to your dips and pullups? Meanwhile, I did my second workout today. Didn't throw up this time! I'm currently rolling this routine, getting back the strength I lost by being sedentary. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommended_routine[/url] My goal is to reach dips by the 17th. If I can add a rep each workout, I'm hoping to reach ring dips by May.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;47483610][url]http://www.muscledriverusa.com/MDUSA-Standard-Wood-Gymnastic-Rings--125-in-Diameter--Pair-Free-Shipping-_p_2467.html[/url] I own a pair of these. High quality, has a lifetime warranty. Looks like you have a very solid routine. How much weight do you add to your dips and pullups? Meanwhile, I did my second workout today. Didn't throw up this time! I'm currently rolling this routine, getting back the strength I lost by being sedentary. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommended_routine[/url] My goal is to reach dips by the 17th. If I can add a rep each workout, I'm hoping to reach ring dips by May.[/QUOTE] I think about 40-60 pounds for each. I don't remember how much the little sandbags that go into the vest weigh individually, I just remember a couple of weeks ago adding another one to increase the difficulty. I'm impressed with myself, actually; I just found some gymnastic rings on Amazon for 34 dollars.
Just be aware that if they're plastic, you may need chalk to get a good grip.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;47484211]Just be aware that if they're plastic, you may need chalk to get a good grip.[/QUOTE] What are the advantages and disadvantages of wood?
If you're going to hang them inside, wood is superior for being a better grip; they can absorb sweat easier so you are much less likely to need chalk. However they can be ruined if you hang them outside permanently as the elements get to them, they will absorb rainwater and warp in the sun. They can also be a bit pricey. Plastic is slicker and doesn't provide as good of a grip but lasts longer when you hang them outside and generally cost less.
this is really weird I've been to about ~10 different gyms at this point, and [I]not a single one[/I] of them had a set of gymnastic rings
My gym has gymnastic rings, and they're pretty cool. The only time I've ever seen someone use it was to flip upside down and take an obnoxious picture with his friends
They're extremely powerful upper body strength training tools. You can probably find some dedicated gymanstics, parkour, CrossFit (yes, I know,) or rock climbing gyms with gymnastic rings inside. Or you can buy a pair, go to your playground or something, and hang them from a high up point over there. [editline]8th April 2015[/editline] Not for everyone though, bodyweight/gymnastic shit is seriously lacking in good lower body exercises. I would supplement them with deadlifts and squats if I could.
How hard are they to install and use? I live in a small apartment.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;47485044]They're extremely powerful upper body strength training tools. You can probably find some dedicated gymanstics, parkour, CrossFit (yes, I know,) or rock climbing gyms with gymnastic rings inside. Or you can buy a pair, go to your playground or something, and hang them from a high up point over there. [editline]8th April 2015[/editline] Not for everyone though, bodyweight/gymnastic shit is seriously lacking in good lower body exercises. I would supplement them with deadlifts and squats if I could.[/QUOTE] That's why a lot of people doing dedicated bodyweight training throw in squats and deadlifts, after 3 years of lifting I've switched to doing a lot of bodyweight work, I recommend it for everyone as I feel so much better/stronger with having a greater amount of control over my body. I'm almost done my first cut as well and to finally see all the hard work I put in over the last 3 years pay off is insanely exciting, I started lifting when I was fat and then just kept lifting while eating a bit better but never cared about cutting, god just a few more weeks I hope I can find an old picture to make a comparison pic
I've been going to the gym for about a week now. I'm really feeling the leg, chest, back and core work outs but my arms aren't getting shit from it. My biceps get the most worked because I use the lat machine a lot and I do bicep curls.
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