Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

started lifting at the beginning of the fall semester with guidance from various experienced people. went from only being able to rep out benching 3x10 @ 95 to 3x10 @ 135 now with 145 on the horizon. lat pulldown went from 85 to 120, and pretty much solid increases in everything else. went from being the weakest person in the gym at any given time to someone who blends right in. crazy how much 7 months can actually do for you if you put the time in

Stalled at 105kg deadlift today but my OHP is progressing again finally also some massive guy taught me and my friend how to clean so we could OHP without the rack (and so he could use it lol), he then proceeded to bench 4 plates for 3 reps

imo the people who say you only need 150 grams of protein are either manlets or pussies. I sort of bought into that shit, but now I realize that when you actually fucking lift, you need to be eating a shitton of proteinz. Aim for 300+ grams of protein a day, making hella gains.

goodnight sweet liver

[QUOTE=Swamplord;47568135]A friend of mine said by the time it gets air-ed on tv, it would be around christmas lol.[/QUOTE] fuck that sucks, I was hoping it would be under a week or something

[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;47579087]imo the people who say you only need 150 grams of protein are either manlets or pussies. I sort of bought into that shit, but now I realize that when you actually fucking lift, you need to be eating a shitton of proteinz. Aim for 300+ grams of protein a day, making hella gains.[/QUOTE] 300 grams sounds only good for people that are over 190cm. I just go for eat big and get big approach but it wouldn't surprise me if I get over 150g in me. Using gainer on training days that contains like 50g protein and 250g carbs, 1350 calories if I count in milk in the shake. I got kinda disappointing when I discovered I've stayed at about 175cm since 16 but I actually got kinda happy because I don't need to eat too fucking much to get up to 80kg.

even 150g is quite a lot tbh how in the world do you suppose your body would manage to efficiently utilize it all? 300g is insane

[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;47579087]imo the people who say you only need 150 grams of protein are either manlets or pussies. I sort of bought into that shit, but now I realize that when you actually fucking lift, you need to be eating a shitton of proteinz. Aim for 300+ grams of protein a day, making hella gains.[/QUOTE] Yeah if you are 400lbs lol [editline]23rd April 2015[/editline] shame medical science proves having 300g+ of protein a day is hella pointless

Does anyone of you use any supplements? I just drink coffee

I use nothing, not even coffee food all the way

I was on 250g a day for several months, can confirm gains were good. [editline]23rd April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=General;47584876]Does anyone of you use any supplements? I just drink coffee[/QUOTE] creatine if your lifting and your not on creatine you're gimping yourself, go on creatine and never come off

Most supplements seems like a waste of money except gainers and proteinpowder. I kinda wanna test creatine but it sounds too good to be true, I'll probably be dissapointed.

[QUOTE=cathal6606;47585882] creatine if your lifting and your not on creatine you're gimping yourself, go on creatine and never come off[/QUOTE] I have some creatine, but I hear a lot of stories about it potentially leading to hair loss and with hair loss running on my dad's side of the family I decided to stay away. I know evidence is inconclusive but there was a lot of anecdotal evidence. Which is a shame because I hear creatine gains are very good. [editline]24th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=kimr120;47586121] I kinda wanna test creatine but it sounds too good to be true, I'll probably be dissapointed.[/QUOTE] It definitely works.

I tried the high protein diet, hit 300g spread out throughout the day and it was good. Recently I just eat everything and the kitchen sink and to the best of my ability keep it under what I deam too much but enough for growth and its worked great if not better. I only get ~100g if im lucky and im 6'4 230 of solid muscle (10 pounds of fat???? I honestly got no idea) From what I find its just the increased intake of food that really benefits you, the sheer intake from hitting 300g or whatever, rather than the actual protein itself. In a way eating to hit 300g is helping you get past a mental barrier of eating what you should actually eat. If that makes sense? This isnt directed towards anyone. [editline]23rd April 2015[/editline] Hahaha hair loss and creatine! Thats new! I should be bald then. I take 6 kre-alk pills when I work out, 2 before, 2 during, 2 after, and I poof up like... god damn im getting amped for lifting just thinking about it!! Creatine is wicked if you use it right, what works for me is during lifting WHENEVER i stop i take a small sip of water. Before you know it your through 4L and you havent pissed yet, yet you feel TITAN!

Can also anyone explain why creatine doesn't count as cheating? Even if it doesn't modifiy in the same way as steroids it still makes stuff easier? Isn't cheating making it easier? Like it sounds unfair against someone that mostly just rely on food for training but competes.

What creatine do you guys recommend? Is it expensive? I saw some at Walmart but I'm a little wary of just grabbing something off the shelf when I don't know much about it.

If I'm planning on cutting for a few months, should I take creatine? I did some research and apparently it's mostly used to bulk up. Since I have noodle arms I'll probably gain muscle even though I'm technically cutting, but still. I'm wondering if I should just wait until I'm actively trying to bulk.

I'm trading in my natty card for creatine rn slightly worried reading about the hair loss (dad has a terrible widows peak) now [editline]24th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=kimr120;47586541]Can also anyone explain why creatine doesn't count as cheating? Even if it doesn't modifiy in the same way as steroids it still makes stuff easier? Isn't cheating making it easier? Like it sounds unfair against someone that mostly just rely on food for training but competes.[/QUOTE] Best to think of it as a friendlier roid tbh. Also most people who compete are on gear but get away with it. Further, cheating is how the best get ahead in life in the first place. Pretty sure Vic Pride wrote an excellent blog article about how the truly ambitious are willing to do anything aand take anything to get more of an edge over their opponents. [editline]24th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Kiamberm;47586595]What creatine do you guys recommend? Is it expensive? I saw some at Walmart but I'm a little wary of just grabbing something off the shelf when I don't know much about it.[/QUOTE] All you really need is good 'ol Creatine Monohydrate. There are more gucci brands like Creatine Nitrate etc these days but the research isn't really too conclusive that these other brands are much better (especially considering the price they are compared to the regular stuff). Do your research though bro and be diligent, I mean, I looked into creatine before getting mine and I only just found about the potential that it contributes vaguely to hair loss. [editline]24th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;47586643]If I'm planning on cutting for a few months, should I take creatine? I did some research and apparently it's mostly used to bulk up. Since I have noodle arms I'll probably gain muscle even though I'm technically cutting, but still. I'm wondering if I should just wait until I'm actively trying to bulk.[/QUOTE] Creatine on a cut isn't really needed tbh. One of the basic things creatine does to you is increase your water retention in the muscle. This essentially bulks you up quite a lot anyway (this bulk goes away when you cycle off) so on a cut it is somewhat counterproductive. You can take it on a cut if you really want, but I did back when I was starting out. tbh I didn't really notice a difference and also felt kinda bloated because of my water intake in comparison with the little food I was taking on. If you really are a hungry skelington (armwise) then hitting the gym will naturally make them look better anyway.

Starting my first cut tomorrow, gonna aim for about 1800 calories I have no idea what that really looks like, yet, but I suppose I'll find out when I reach the limit

[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;47586442]im 6'4 230 of solid muscle (10 pounds of fat???? I honestly got no idea)[/QUOTE] ?????? The feel when 4% bodyfat. I'd say you're probably closer to 30-40 pounds of fat.

[QUOTE=Heigou;47587420]?????? The feel when 4% bodyfat. I'd say you're probably closer to 30-40 pounds of fat.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I didnt want to bother with a good estimation, likely closer to 20-25 but I got no idea. For creatine Kre-Alkyline is my go to, on my 5th bottle, stuff works good. It isnt anything like a sterioid (creatine), a steroid helps with recovery, whereas creatine assists with growth. Growth in the way that when your muscles become saturated with water and all "poofed up" it makes it easier to tear your muscle fibers. Its naturally occuring in meat like beef, all the supplements do is make it more convenient than eating 10 steaks.

You drink 4 liters of water during your workout? That's more than 4 refills of my 32 oz REI water bottle.. [editline]23rd April 2015[/editline] Any reason you take creatine in pill form, as opposed to powder, Valon? Just convenience, portability?

My wife just let me know that she's been putting butter and salt in my food without me being aware on purpose. I'm starting to wonder if she doesn't like the idea of having a hot husband.

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;47586914] Creatine on a cut isn't really needed tbh. One of the basic things creatine does to you is increase your water retention in the muscle. This essentially bulks you up quite a lot anyway (this bulk goes away when you cycle off) so on a cut it is somewhat counterproductive. You can take it on a cut if you really want, but I did back when I was starting out. tbh I didn't really notice a difference and also felt kinda bloated because of my water intake in comparison with the little food I was taking on. If you really are a hungry skelington (armwise) then hitting the gym will naturally make them look better anyway.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I guess I'll pass on it. I wouldn't say I'm a skeleton, I have a bit of fat on my chest it's just that my arms and legs are pretty skinny since I haven't done any sort of regular exercise since august or so. 5 days of workouts a week in conjunction with a solid diet should do enough to lean me up.

creatine, ehh? my goal in lifting in the first place is to reach my natty strength limits no point in taking anything that enhances performance edit: why is this so funny tho

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;47586643]If I'm planning on cutting for a few months, should I take creatine? I did some research and apparently it's mostly used to bulk up. Since I have noodle arms I'll probably gain muscle even though I'm technically cutting, but still. I'm wondering if I should just wait until I'm actively trying to bulk.[/QUOTE] Creatine is more important than ever on a cut since it lets you work harder in the gym than you otherwise would, thereby burning more calories. You'll gain a few pounds initially but so what? Its not fat, and after a week of being off creatine you'll have lost it all. [editline]24th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=kimr120;47586541]Can also anyone explain why creatine doesn't count as cheating? Even if it doesn't modifiy in the same way as steroids it still makes stuff easier? Isn't cheating making it easier? Like it sounds unfair against someone that mostly just rely on food for training but competes.[/QUOTE] It counts as cheating about as much as a high protein diet and taking pre work out does.

I've been really tired and congested and my farts have been smelling unnaturally awful. Should I stop working out/go easier? I'm going to work on a building project tomorrow and I don't want to be half asleep on the way there.

[QUOTE=Kiamberm;47588095]You drink 4 liters of water during your workout? That's more than 4 refills of my 32 oz REI water bottle.. [editline]23rd April 2015[/editline] Any reason you take creatine in pill form, as opposed to powder, Valon? Just convenience, portability?[/QUOTE] I tried a powder before (muscle pharm creatine) and it did shit all. The kre alk has always worked, and it is easy to monitor how much I take, convient to just keep in my pocket too. A bottle lasts me about a month at the dosage I take. I've never had to "load" or "cycle" off it, I just stop taking it, and then just take it again without any adverse side effects. You are still "natty" if you take creatine, the amount of misinformation around it is astounding. Yeah I drink a retarded amount of water, my highest was 12 pounds in 1 workout. It draws into my muscles and its like flexing constantly. I kinda wish I didnt take in that much water, because I piss it all out and feel like a rail.

Alright guess I'm going with creatine then. Is it something I take every day, or just the days I lift?

Do some of you guys actually know what creatine is? lol