Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

Is there a seperate thread for fitness, or is it okay to post about exercise here?

[QUOTE=Nitro836;48095012]Is there a seperate thread for fitness, or is it okay to post about exercise here?[/QUOTE] Holy shit one post above you

Boy fitness communities online sure are some of the stupidest "internet cliques" out there that will believe anything. You guys are cool though. I visit r/fitness every so often. Everytime I see progress pics posted the guy who made pretty good progress attributes it all due to a huge amount of pseudoscience bullshit instead of the simple truth of eating decent, eating enough, and actually working out for an hour a day. "Hurr here's what I did: split my meals up 8 times a day, made sure I had an exact amount of complex carbs with monounsaturated fats, no sodium, no sugar, 500G of protein, my supplement stack is 8 different kinds of pills, blah blah blah" *wears the protein fart badge of pride despite that being a sign you are eating more protein than you body can use* Like, its cool you got results. But shitty you spread so much misinformation just because you believe anything fitness related that hits your face. There is this massive circle jerk of "hard workers" who love to get off on the idea that fitness is a lot harder than it actually is. Like yeah, it requires willpower and dedication. But it really isn't no where near as bad as most try-hards love to think it is. The fact that you spend most of your waking hours on following broscience workout/diet routines just means you wasted a huge amount of time/energy/money just to validate your self-given image of being a hard worker. [/rant]

lifting is pretty easy tbh, even heavy-ass deadlifts definitely one of the easiest things I do in life

/r/fitness is a slightly retarded community hell bent on a rigid set of ways, like any big subreddit. I stick to /r/bb for that reason

[QUOTE=lexus04;48095569]/r/fitness is a slightly retarded community hell bent on a rigid set of ways, like any big subreddit. I stick to /r/bb for that reason[/QUOTE] there was a handicapped guy bound to a wheel chair who was voted to the top page because he did some bicep curls

[QUOTE=KorJax;48095255]Like, its cool you got results. But shitty you spread so much misinformation just because you believe anything fitness related that hits your face. There is this massive circle jerk of "hard workers" who love to get off on the idea that fitness is a lot harder than it actually is. Like yeah, it requires willpower and dedication. But it really isn't no where near as bad as most try-hards love to think it is. The fact that you spend most of your waking hours on following broscience workout/diet routines just means you wasted a huge amount of time/energy/money just to validate your self-given image of being a hard worker.[/rant][/QUOTE] It's because of how confusing all the mixed pseudo-science stuff is out there, and the fact that I'm a lazy motherfucker, that getting into all this stuff for me just involved doing 30-60 minutes of Cardio and 30-60 of Weights every day, as well as eating less (especially snacking) and trying to make sure I get a more rounded/healthy diet. I feel a lot better for it, and that's about all the effort I can put in. As far as work-outs go, I try to make sure that I don't put stuff back-to-back (legs for example) daily, so that I have time to recover - which I assume is what you're suppose to do. My only real goal is to be comfortable when I take my shirt off, and to kick exercise-induced asthma in the dick. That shit got me booted out of Basic, because while I had excellent test scores and could rip out all the push-ups/sit-ups/chin-ups they wanted, I basically died 1/4th of the way into run. Didn't even know I had it until then, because I was always use to being allowed to slow to a walk during jogging/running. And the irony is, that everything I've ever read on the subject say the only way to beat [B]exercise[/B]-induced asthma is to [B]exercise [/B]more. Question though, since you guys seem friendly and to know your stuff: what is the merit in cutting out carbs in a diet? I passively read that I should do it and went "gee well I'll try anything once", before realizing that carbs are [I]everywhere.[/I] I'm not talking about a complete removal of them either, but say, limiting yourself to a serving or two a day?

[QUOTE=Doom14;48095706] And the irony is, that everything I've ever read on the subject say the only way to beat [B]exercise[/B]-induced asthma is to [B]exercise [/B]more.[/QUOTE] well yeah you get better at running by running more

I might be losing weight too fast. 1 stone 2lbs in 2 weeks doesn't sound healthy. I've been told as long as I get in the gym often I can minimize the potential degradation on my muscles, but I'm probably going to increase the size of my portions, I'll sort that out exactly next week. Guess I'll just start snacking on healthy things between meals for now. I'm still going up in strength [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] Need to keep reminding myself that I'm huge and can eat the same amount as a small family even for my target calories

Well I'm finally settled in and I finally found a gym. Small, cozy, not so packed. Is it possible for me to continue to cut on fat and gain muscle simultaneously at my current weight? I did some asking around online for guidance. I'm at 155LBs @ 5'10 and I have dropped 20 LBs since January but I still have that bit of fat on thighs and stomach right over my abs. Can I still continue to burn or am I pretty much at fumes while doing strength training? (SL 5x5)

[QUOTE=Doom14;48095706]It's because of how confusing all the mixed pseudo-science stuff is out there, and the fact that I'm a lazy motherfucker, that getting into all this stuff for me just involved doing 30-60 minutes of Cardio and 30-60 of Weights every day, as well as eating less (especially snacking) and trying to make sure I get a more rounded/healthy diet. I feel a lot better for it, and that's about all the effort I can put in. As far as work-outs go, I try to make sure that I don't put stuff back-to-back (legs for example) daily, so that I have time to recover - which I assume is what you're suppose to do. My only real goal is to be comfortable when I take my shirt off, and to kick exercise-induced asthma in the dick. That shit got me booted out of Basic, because while I had excellent test scores and could rip out all the push-ups/sit-ups/chin-ups they wanted, I basically died 1/4th of the way into run. Didn't even know I had it until then, because I was always use to being allowed to slow to a walk during jogging/running. And the irony is, that everything I've ever read on the subject say the only way to beat [B]exercise[/B]-induced asthma is to [B]exercise [/B]more. Question though, since you guys seem friendly and to know your stuff: what is the merit in cutting out carbs in a diet? I passively read that I should do it and went "gee well I'll try anything once", before realizing that carbs are [I]everywhere.[/I] I'm not talking about a complete removal of them either, but say, limiting yourself to a serving or two a day?[/QUOTE] Carbs are fine This is what I'm talking about. You simply can't bulk effectively without having loads of carbs because it how else do you get 2700 calories in your diet with only 150-160G of protein (which is actually a shit ton if you weight close to that much in lbs)? Your only option is to eat extreme excess of protein (which does nothing for you past a point) or extreme excess of fat. Every long term study on earth that actually tracks people who have diets with extreme amounts of carbs/fats/protein/etc in them has shown that it literally has no effect on body composition having 70% carb diet vs a 70% fat diet, etc. I don't care if in a microscope carbs technically contribute to fat production. The fact of the matter is your body doesn't magically put on fat by having lots of carbs in the same way it doesn't magically make your muscles big if you eat more protein than your body needs. Your body tends to only use what it actually needs so in all likelihood excess carbs you eat just get shit out if your body doesn't need it beyond the nutrients inside them. Now that said, caring about carbs/fats/etc is nice in that if your diet is tailored to your exercise needs you'll have a much better time. You'll be less hungry and have much better workout stamina, allowing you to push harder. An athlete who carb starves themselves will simply perform much worse compared to one that does not, because complex carbs provide long lasting energy.

probably a coincidence but it felt like I could put in more effort on my OHP after power cleaning the bar

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48096833]Well I'm finally settled in and I finally found a gym. Small, cozy, not so packed. Is it possible for me to continue to cut on fat and gain muscle simultaneously at my current weight? I did some asking around online for guidance. I'm at 155LBs @ 5'10 and I have dropped 20 LBs since January but I still have that bit of fat on thighs and stomach right over my abs. Can I still continue to burn or am I pretty much at fumes while doing strength training? (SL 5x5)[/QUOTE] Depends on how long you've been lifting. Once you start to plateau if you're still cutting then yeah you will either need to decide to keep on losing fat or get gains. [editline]2nd July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=The Rizzler;48096488]I might be losing weight too fast. 1 stone 2lbs in 2 weeks doesn't sound healthy. I've been told as long as I get in the gym often I can minimize the potential degradation on my muscles, but I'm probably going to increase the size of my portions, I'll sort that out exactly next week. Guess I'll just start snacking on healthy things between meals for now. I'm still going up in strength [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] Need to keep reminding myself that I'm huge and can eat the same amount as a small family even for my target calories[/QUOTE] If you only just started losing weight 2 weeks ago then don't worry too much, some of it may just be less water weight as your body readjusts itself, and perhaps fewer stomach contents at the time you weigh yourself. It's why when you see these fad diets that say 'lose x amount of fat in a week!' are bullshit because most of the earliest losses aren't even fat or muscle.

Alright, I'll keep the cut going for another month with consistent lifting and go off from there.

[QUOTE=Lukeo;48097528]probably a coincidence but it felt like I could put in more effort on my OHP after power cleaning the bar[/QUOTE] Same. When I do just push press or even just jerks, it feels tougher. But when I add cleans in to the mix, getting it overhead doesn't feel so bad anymore :v:. It's like it adds 15-20lbs to the press. All I know is it feels like it mess with your weight perception, as if it is a mental barrier. When you have nothing to reference it against, the weight feels heavier. But when you just cleaned it no problem, then you perceive it as lighter. Kinda like how no warming up makes even easy weight feel heavier than it is and vice versa.

yeah ever since I've stopped powercleaning it up, the bar just feels heavy as fuck even in starting position gotta resume clean & pressing it

I used to always clean my presses then I stopped a few months ago cause of my back, might start doing it again since I always found it easier. I read somewhere thats its cause cleaning it puts the bar in a more natural position but idk, its probably just cause it primes your nervous system for lifting heavy.

Fuck Was tired as hell yesterday due to lack of sleep, so took an extra rest day. Would have worked out yesterday, today, then rest day. All pumped for gym today and tomorrow instead, when I have the day off. Then I remember its 4th of July and my gym will be closed tomorrow :v:

Why tf do you all go to gyms that close on certain days or over summer break or whatever?

My gym had a fucking fire in a downstairs office and was open the next day, just smelt weird upstairs for a week It's not closed for the summer but will be getting two new fire escapes installed there starting next Monday, going to lose about 30% of the upstairs gym space including the only cage and the only iron dumbbell rack (why even go upstairs now kek amirite) and till then only downstairs will be available for about 2 weeks, it's only indoor basketball court sized (literally) so like 4 cages + benches, 3 benches, two racks of dumbbells, a row bench, three rowing machines, three exercise bikes as well as other minor gym equipment, upstairs is even smaller Gonna be cosy. Gym only really hits full capacity Monday afternoons, much better than my old Uni gym which was full of Romanians in wife beaters sitting around doing nothing

[QUOTE=Antdawg;48112832]Why tf do you all go to gyms that close on certain days or over summer break or whatever?[/QUOTE] Rec center gym. Really awesome price, really great set up. Downside is shit tier open hours (M-Th 7a-10p which isn't that bad, but F 10a-8p, Sat/Sun 10a-6p) and closed on every damn government holiday you can think of.

Hit 115kgx5 today on atg squats after 6 weeks of texas method, really happy with this because I spent 2 or 3 months on 5/3/1 trying to get here with no luck. I've heard Clarence Kennedy say it before and it couldnt be more true, if you want to make gains on squat you need to be squatting at least 2 or 3 times a week. [editline]3rd July 2015[/editline] Also 90x5 on bench but thats a comeback PR

anyone got dem july 4 plans?

i know it's the IPF and the rules apply to everyone but this just seems silly [URL="https://www.facebook.com/powerlifting.ipf/videos/1039548059391021/"]https://www.facebook.com/powerlifting.ipf/videos/1039548059391021/[/URL]

What the fuck was that. Ok shit like my bench is only above a third of that but come on If that's a bench press, then a calf raise is a squat.

part of the reason I don't like bench and why it's such a dickwaving contest no way to minimize ROM like that on the OHP

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48119581]part of the reason I don't like bench and why it's such a dickwaving contest no way to minimize ROM like that on the OHP[/QUOTE] Nah you still can (not in competition I guess). I remember seeing a video on Facebook of a friend of a friend where the description was like 'so happy with my progress! Never thought I'd do 60kg overhead press' and the comments were full of praise, but you watch the video and as he's pressing the dumbbells he never brings his hands below halfway down his forehead.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48119581]part of the reason I don't like bench and why it's such a dickwaving contest no way to minimize ROM like that on the OHP[/QUOTE] wasn't it removed from oly lifting for that reason though? you can arch your back like crazy to turn it into a standing bench, obviously bad form but helps get the weight up, hard to judge apparently

[QUOTE=Antdawg;48119665]Nah you still can (not in competition I guess). I remember seeing a video on Facebook of a friend of a friend where the description was like 'so happy with my progress! Never thought I'd do 60kg overhead press' and the comments were full of praise, but you watch the video and as he's pressing the dumbbells he never brings his hands below halfway down his forehead.[/QUOTE] uhh that's just like a half bench or half squat, neither would be allowed in any kind of competition [QUOTE=Lukeo;48119876]wasn't it removed from oly lifting for that reason though? you can arch your back like crazy to turn it into a standing bench, obviously bad form but helps get the weight up, hard to judge apparently[/QUOTE] yeah clean & press was removed for form reasons, but it's still not quite the same even if you lean way the fuck back it will never come close to being a full chest movement

How do you guys handle when you have a cold with coughing? I am currently at my 3rd rest day and it feels wrong...