Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.7 - let's see if more people care about themselves - General

[QUOTE=Mbbird;48295290]Mmk, just ordered the 2lb tub for starts. Unrelated question: I'm starting to notice slight difference in my left vs my right [del]biceps[/del] upper arm in general (?). Thankfully it's only noticable when I'm working out and all puffy, and as far as I can tell it's my only lopsided gain so far, but I'm concerned. I'm right handed and the right is bigger. I've been doing only bodyweight since I started, and I noticed this about a week ago. Should I simply focus on perfecting my form, maybe doing slightly less work for a while? Or...I have dumbbells; should I work my left a little bit extra with a dumbbell (obvious issue being that I don't know what exactly to do and I've never done dumbbells before)?[/QUOTE] You can try working your weak side a little more if you want but eventually it will just balance out anyway. [editline]26th July 2015[/editline] Actually thats not 100% true, my right arm and trap is still bigger than my left, and my left pec is still bigger than my right, even after 3 years. The difference isnt as significant as it was and I think I only notice it because I see myself in the mirror every day, your average person wouldnt notice. [editline]26th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48296458]holy shit i know it's a well known fact but after you take fish oil for a long period of time your skin shines like crazy my hairy peach colored legs glisten beautifully under the light[/QUOTE] I've been taking fish oil since I was a kid and never noticed this. Currently on 3g a day.

So I'm still working on what macros I need. With my intent to preserve muscle and burn fat I'm running a 20% deficit off my TDEE which is about 2500 calories/day. That's about 1850-1900kcal/day. For a 155LB Male 280g Protein, 70g Fat, 125g Carbs Does that ratio make sense??

280g protein holy Jesus I don't even get that when I bulk

Isn't the ratio for muscle growth 1.8 per pound? If that isn't the case I've been averaging 190-200 grams a day

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48298030]Isn't the ratio for muscle growth 1.8 per pound? If that isn't the case I've been averaging 190-200 grams a day[/QUOTE] Haha, no. That's an outright ridiculous number put out by supplement companies to get you to buy/use more protein. The original number that came from a study was 1g per kilogram of lean muscle mass. So if you were to weigh 100kg and you're 10 percent bodyfat, then you should be getting at least 90g of protein a day. Sounds low as shit, but that's the truth. Kevin Levrone ate around 100-120g a day and he was a Mr. Olympia competitor. I doubt even Ronnie Coleman ate 200+g a day. I got roughly 90-100g a day when I was competing and grew/made gains just fine. You don't need nearly as much as you think.

Does anyone have that bulk/cut calculator link? On-topic I guess. I'm going to start lifting again after a month (gym was closed), but better and proper this time. I want to actually bulk instead of being inbetween with the calories.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;48298098]Haha, no. That's an outright ridiculous number put out by supplement companies to get you to buy/use more protein. The original number that came from a study was 1g per kilogram of lean muscle mass. So if you were to weigh 100kg and you're 10 percent bodyfat, then you should be getting at least 90g of protein a day. Sounds low as shit, but that's the truth. Kevin Levrone ate around 100-120g a day and he was a Mr. Olympia competitor. I doubt even Ronnie Coleman ate 200+g a day. I got roughly 90-100g a day when I was competing and grew/made gains just fine. You don't need nearly as much as you think.[/QUOTE] holy shit welcome back lol

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48298030]Isn't the ratio for muscle growth 1.8 per pound? If that isn't the case I've been averaging 190-200 grams a day[/QUOTE] Also be careful/check your liver, because protein overload can damage the livers.

WELP time to cut back and relax on the protein intake.

Haha fuck it m8, if you can get 280 grams of protein in your diet go for it. At the height of my bulk I was getting 250g @ 5000cals and that was pushing it.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48294391]Discipline, patience and will is like 80% of getting the body you want. Also, I take two scoopa C4 to get going for the gym and throw in a single scoop during gym. Too much or is that typical?[/QUOTE] Not sure if I wanna get into supplements just yet - I assume C4 is a type of supplement. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Imo, discipline is never a bad thing to have.

[QUOTE=SmashAA;48298786]Not sure if I wanna get into supplements just yet - I assume C4 is a type of supplement. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Imo, discipline is never a bad thing to have.[/QUOTE] Usually foreknowledge also helps, but you can learn that as you go as I am. C4 is one, I enjoy taking it before gym along with my bananas and kiwis because I enjoy the rush it throws my body into. If you are groggy or 'not feeling it' any caffeine or pre-workout could kick your mind and heart into hyperdrive and get going.

[QUOTE=cathal6606;48298747]Haha fuck it m8, if you can get 280 grams of protein in your diet go for it. At the height of my bulk I was getting 250g @ 5000cals and that was pushing it.[/QUOTE] Also kidneys suffer too. (Just to be clear, if your kidneys/livers are 100% healthy then you shouldn't have problems with it. But are they 100% healthy? ) And unused proteins just get pissed/shit out and/or converted to fat/sugar. [editline]26th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48298829]Usually foreknowledge also helps, but you can learn that as you go as I am. C4 is one, I enjoy taking it before gym along with my bananas and kiwis because I enjoy the rush it throws my body into. If you are groggy or 'not feeling it' any caffeine or pre-workout could kick your mind and heart into hyperdrive and get going.[/QUOTE] I also feel (whey) protein give me the 'kicks'.

Probably, I've havent had any issues yet. Protein/ amino acids dont get pissed out, theyre too valuable a nutrient for your body to waste, they are used to fix tissue damage or are converted to energy. Thats kind of moot point though since its kind of what your saying. The thing about eating excess protein is that, say you eat 100g and you train, you'll make gains. Say you eat 200g and train, you dont make twice the gains but you will still make more than @ 100. There are diminishing returns, but there are returns. If your trying to be the strongest you can be then you'll take every edge you can get, be it eating excess protein, prioritising training over life stuff, supplementing vitamins/ minerals, taking creatine/ pre workout, counting calories, even doing stuff like foam rolling, stretching and active recovery. And why would you do all this? its not just to be good its to be the best.

Yeah I know. You have to risk it to get the biscuit. But, isn't it safer to take small amounts of steroids than to eat shitload of protein? Just wondering, I am not expert here.

Probably not, high protein diets arent as bad as you seem to think, unless you do have kidney problems. [url]http://examine.com/faq/can-eating-too-much-protein-be-bad-for-you.html[/url] Thats a good article on the subject

Thanks. Though I have damaged liver (from drinking tooo much alcohol 2 years ago) and that is why I am pointing this out. Anyone with perfectly fine kidney/liver should just ignore my advice.

There's no issue with getting more protein than you really need. If it's coming from your diet, knock yourself out mang. The how much you need number is really just a guide to supplementation. If you're getting 150g of protein every day from eating fish and shit then fuck yeah dude keep on keeping on. But if you get 100g from your diet, there's no need to sit there and go, "Fuck mang I gotta pound down some shakes to get 50g more." You should get as much as you can from real food, saving protein powder for when you don't have time to cook a meal or fucked up and had something with zero goddamn protein in it like a whole box of twinkies.

been half a year since I've dropped protein shakes no noticeable loss of any kind of gains though all food I eat, with the exception of bread, has decent amounts of protein in it

Preworkouts never worked on me, Creatine made me piss like a race horse and I actually beat my 1RM after I stopped using it and I only used protein when I had to rush to work and didn't have the time to make myself a decent meal. I feel that all supplements are so overrated, I have a friend who works out more than I ever will but he's not knowledgeable worth shit, local supplement store had him buy Glutamine and Carbs supplement and he bought into that shit and went for it lol If you want to get rich, get in the supplement industry, just put flashy stickers all over your product using such buzzwords as MUSCLE ACTIVATOR, ANABOLIC ACTIONS, INSULINOTROPIC AMINO ACIDS and all kinds of bullshit and you can be sure you'll have all the dumbfucks salivating over the body of homosexuals like Jeff Seid buy right into it and make you rich.

If you're eating healthy and downing supplements your body is bathing in healthy shit which it will utilize as you work out.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48298688]WELP time to cut back and relax on the protein intake.[/QUOTE] The worst part about having too much protein is just protein farts. If you get bad protein farts then it means you aren't digesting a good chunk of protein you are eating. And I guess cost. Protein tends to be the most expensive macro. So its wasteful to have too much of it, when you could be using those calories as carbs/fat instead.

[QUOTE=KorJax;48305693]The worst part about having too much protein is just protein farts. If you get bad protein farts then it means you aren't digesting a good chunk of protein you are eating. And I guess cost. Protein tends to be the most expensive macro. So its wasteful to have too much of it, when you could be using those calories as carbs/fat instead.[/QUOTE] That's the thing I have not noticed actually. I have been averaging well over 100 grams of protein a day but I haven't been exploding. So I guess my body is putting much of it to use.

I've added some mayo to my diet in order to bump up the fat to ~90g, feel so good because of that.

Whoohoo, cheers to my first home gym purchase. I got big fat 16'' handles which should be able to go up to 105 lbs each(5 dumbbell plates can fit on each side, roughly), and invested in a static bench for now, along with some padding. I'll still be doing regular days at my school gym but this is a good step for me landing more consistent workouts without missing days due to company events/school projects/etc.

Been benching 125LB since last Friday, I'm going to give myself up to either this Friday or next Monday to refine my form before I join the 1pl8 club for benching. Right now though it's strange as I push all the way up, my arms start to shake, it's like when you leap off a diving board, it sort of wobbles? I don't think it's a sign of muscle failure since I tense my shoulders and my arms can easily hold up the weight, it's just that damn shaking that's weird. Also started to do 8x5 squats. Dropped back on the weight so I can get used to it. Began to focus on pointing out my knees/spreading my thighs as I go down, it helps me keep the weight even on my feet without leaning forward too much. My heartrate skyrockets though when I do these now. Is it bad to do more than one workout that focuses on the same muscle group on the same day? Like you do squats and then you do BB lunges later on?

People will tell you all kinds of stuff about not doing this and that on the same day only do this many sets for each muscle group blah blah blah. At the end of the day, do what you feel comfortable with. If you hit legs in the morning and feel like going back to the gym later on to do more legs, fuck it go right ahead. If your body is telling you it's okay to do something, then do it. You'll know if you're doing too much, your body will tell you.

5x80kg bench today finally this summerbulk thing is really working out aiming for 5x95-100kg by the end of the year also OHPd 1pl8 last week ayy

[QUOTE=lexus04;48308599]5x80kg bench today finally this summerbulk thing is really working out aiming for 5x95-100kg by the end of the year also OHPd 1pl8 last week ayy[/QUOTE] 1x100kg is definitely doable by the end of the year, 5 would be a lot but i believe in you

Why is there SO much tension in my neck while doing leg raises? I can't seem to do anything about it. Are you _supposed_ to make sure there's no space between your back and the ground like a hollow hold? Because it feels wrong if I don't. Also quite a bit in my inverted rows (upside down pushup from rings thing) and I don't know how to deal with it.