• Fitness and weight loss
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[QUOTE=M4stah;23004333]Only fat people post here[/QUOTE] Only people who want to be more fit, or who have advice to be fit, post here.
[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;22988490]Don't worry about it, you learn to ignore it. Yes it is gross, yes no one wants to see it, but you all wear them. Also you can wear this instead: [IMG]http://www.metroswimshop.com/images/3pk_Male_Jammers_37.jpg[/IMG] Oh and don't be afraid you will do fine. The first few days is like wow this sucks and is boring, but once you get into it and get more conditioned for it then it's great! You might want to start learning all the strokes so you will be a step ahead though.[/QUOTE] I agree, of course, I have been swimming competitively since I was 5-6, and going into high school swimming, I did an extra swim team through my local YMCA (its called RAYS here) that summer just to get in shape. And trust me, it helped a lot. With RAYS, you kinda got a feel for what high school swimming was like. And I would suggest after high school swimming season, keep swimming after tha, because then you lose a lot of the skill/strength you had before, and it is not fun trying to get it back.
[QUOTE=M4stah;23004333]Only fat people post here[/QUOTE] yeah I am fat and at the same time I have a six-pack :downs:
Just been to the gym, I've missed the ache that you get after working bloody hard on your muscles. Can't wait to get into the swing of things.
[QUOTE=loopoo;22990009]See, you're getting mixed up with weight of muscle and weight of useless fat. I would LOVE to be the biggest fucking guy ever, but that's not what I'm complaining about. I'm complaining about the fact that I have more fat than muscle. And it pisses me off. When I was going to the gym about 5 months ago, I lost a load of weight, then gained it. I didn't mind gaining weight cause I knew most of it was muscle. How old are you now? Also 260lbs is fucking crazy. That's 118kg. My dad, who is 47 and is more chubby than muscle weighs around 110kg. Good luck reaching that goal at 17. Impossible to do man. You'd have to start years before and it wouldn't work at 15 because you're not developed enough.[/QUOTE] I disagree, yeah I'm 15, but I'm basically done growing, have a few more inches but that's about it. I'm at like 215-220 right now and plan on getting up to 230 and maintaining for wrestling. Afterwards plan to bulk to 250. It's not impossible, it's actually very possible but very hard to do, the amount of food necessary is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;23007866]I disagree, yeah I'm 15, but I'm basically done growing, have a few more inches but that's about it. I'm at like 215-220 right now and plan on getting up to 230 and maintaining for wrestling. Afterwards plan to bulk to 250. It's not impossible, it's actually very possible but very hard to do, the amount of food necessary is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Dude, you keep saying numbers. Are you talking in lbs? 260lbs for a 15 year old is fucking mental. Also, at 15, you are NOT done growing. When I was 15, I thought it was the biggest I'd ever get. Fast forward 2 and a half years, I've grown at least twice as big. If you don't grow in height, you grow in shoulder-length and bone size. And you don't stop growing till you're 18.
Swimming is pretty good for exercise but you can't just float around like a fat blob.
[QUOTE=loopoo;23003828]Bloody brilliant information. So protein shakes won't do me any harm, they will only help me, correct? My friend told me to stay away from Keratine or whatever it's called, because your body can become dependent on it and lose muscle quickly when you cut it off. Also, again, to JaegerMonster, is it worth me taking protein shakes whilst doing cardio exercises and swimming? That way, I'd build muscle easier and I wouldn't end up like a stick. And if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?[/QUOTE] Great discussion. For those of you interested in getting the most out of your protein intake, I'd recommend the following product: [url]http://www.i360health.com/App/websites/storefront/index.cfm?ncs=23619506107&cid=40930&pid=177500&reqid=p_detail[/url]
[QUOTE=i360health;23010432]Great discussion. For those of you interested in getting the most out of your protein intake, I'd recommend the following product: [url]http://www.i360health.com/App/websites/storefront/index.cfm?ncs=23619506107&cid=40930&pid=177500&reqid=p_detail[/url][/QUOTE] Uh, joined and this is your first post? I dunno. I'm not buying anything advertised to me, I got a mate who takes protein himself and he's advising me, so I'm all good thanks.
I have a four-pack :smug: But seriously, even that takes ages to get and it requires constant upkeep. It comes and goes as I get lazy and then go: -O-Shi- and do a fuckton of exercise. :ohdear:
[QUOTE=loopoo;23008200]And you don't stop growing till you're 18.[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Women stop growing at 18. Guys stop growing around 20-ish. [QUOTE=JaegerMonster;22996191] When you're someone like me who's got a huge workload (boxing 4-5 nights a week, plus weights 3 nights a week) and is already consuming in excess of 3000 calories, protein shakes with peanut butter or olive oil are a fucking lifeline, it's pretty much the only way I can get those extra calories I need. [/QUOTE} This is also true, I don't workout as intensely as this guy but I have a wicked fast metabolism (before I started bulking up I was 6' 120lbs and could out eat most of my friends) and so I have to gorge myself at every meal and drink a protein shake at night (edit: some help with why this quote isn't working?) [QUOTE=JaegerMonster;22996191] It won't impact you at ALL. That's just another misinformed person. Weight training has no impact on skeletal growth at all. Infact, it may even bolster it. You're at what most in the weightlifting world consider the perfect age to build a strong base. Ridiculous amounts of testosterone and growth hormones flooding your body pretty much means your ability to recover is ridiculous efficient and you can grow muscle with ease (if you're consuming enough food that is).[/QUOTE] The actual workouts can't really hurt you if you do them properly, but bulking up too much will put a constant strain on your body and can fuck up or even stunt your growth. But that's only if you get HUGE and usually by the time you're 16 or so you're fine unless you're getting to pro-athlete size.
Uh going slightly off topic (ish), is there any good exercise for :sigh: ... the reduction of man tits?
[QUOTE=LF9000;23018452]Uh going slightly off topic (ish), is there any good exercise for :sigh: ... the reduction of man tits?[/QUOTE] Push ups mate. I didn't have man-tits, but I have slightly dimply nipples from where the fat accumulated on the end. It's not my type of nipple, it's just because I had a fatty chest. Push-ups got rid of most of the fat and turned it into muscle, there's only a tiny bit left now which I can get rid of VIA swimming. From before, where it was all jelly, to now, where it's mostly muscle, greatly defined it and made it look less tit-like.
Push-ups won't help at all. You gotta go on a cut. Go about 200cals under your maintenance and do a lot cardio, I mean intense shit every day in addition to weightlifting. Push-ups won't do shit, and compared to weighted exercise's there child's play.
[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;23018558]Push-ups won't help at all. You gotta go on a cut. Go about 200cals under your maintenance and do a lot cardio, I mean intense shit every day in addition to weightlifting. Push-ups won't do shit, and compared to weighted exercise's there child's play.[/QUOTE] I stand corrected, though I disagree they "don't do shit". It turned most of my fatty chest into muscle so it didn't look so flabby and actually keeps form when I'm bending over or something.
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;22988010]Nobody answered my question, so I guess I'll ask it again Speaking of swimming, for our sophomore year of highschool we are required to choose a sport and I chose swimming. However, I have never been on a swim team or any competitive swimming before, or anything like that, so I really don't know what to expect. Is it difficult? Is it straining? Should I practice anything before hand? On a scale of 1-10, 1 being not in fit at all and 10 being incredibly fit, I'd say I'm about a 5 or 6. So what do you guys think, can you give me any tips on what to expect and or what I should know/do/practice before? [editline]09:25PM[/editline] I'm a little worried about what to expect, especially if we have to wear one of these :ohdear: [img_thumb]http://twonateshow.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/6_3_michael_phelps.jpg[/img_thumb] There's something about being in a pool full of guys with their cocks bulging out of a thin piece of rubber panties that I don't like[/QUOTE] Speedos aren't the only piece of swimwear
[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;23018558]Push-ups won't help at all. You gotta go on a cut. Go about 200cals under your maintenance and do a lot cardio, I mean intense shit every day in addition to weightlifting. Push-ups won't do shit, and compared to weighted exercise's there child's play.[/QUOTE] If he does have moobs then I doubt he does much exercise, so the pushups will help just not as much as what you described. And if you're just looking to lose a bit of weight that's a bit extreme, I'd suggest cardio (not intense, but push yourself) and lifting weights is always good because the more muscle you have the more energy it takes to maintain it and thus the more calories you burn doing absolutely nothing.
Probably late: Walk. Far. Everyday (unless your legs start to hurt, then take a rest day). Depending on your weight, a 4-mile walk a day at 3 mph will burn about 330 calories (for a 173 lb male). That's a pound of stored fat burned in 11 days. Combine that with a proper diet and I bet you'll start dropping body fat. [b]Ego stroking[/b]: I've taken my own advice, and in the last 3 days walked about 15 miles (4+4+7). My first weigh-in since starting this plan will be tomorrow. I expect a modest drop in body fat.
Damn you guys do that diet stuff? I'd rather die than control myself eating...and no im not fatass
[QUOTE=loopoo;23003828]Bloody brilliant information. So protein shakes won't do me any harm, they will only help me, correct? My friend told me to stay away from Keratine or whatever it's called, because your body can become dependent on it and lose muscle quickly when you cut it off. Also, again, to JaegerMonster, is it worth me taking protein shakes whilst doing cardio exercises and swimming? That way, I'd build muscle easier and I wouldn't end up like a stick. And if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?[/QUOTE] Protein shakes are just food. You don't need them, but yeah they're harmless. If you're one of those people who have trouble getting in enough food to support muscle growth, then yes, protein shakes are a lifeline. Other than that the biggest thing is they're convenient. I mostly drink whey post workout, but like I said before, If I'm having trouble getting enough calories in, I'll mix it up with some peanut butter or olive oil. As for your friend, I think he's talking about creatine. If he is, he's wrong. Creatine is produced naturally in your body, and you also consume creatine every time you eat red meat. So wether you like it or not, you're on creatine every moment of the day :v: . Taking it in supplemental forms, Creatine is actually the best damn supplement on the market today. I won't go into what it does, as it's a long discussion, but in a nutshell it will increase your strength and workload ability, as well as some more minor benefits. Do some research on it if you like, just beware of "latest and greatest" mentality with various products, alot of it is exactly the same stuff just marketed differently. Creatine Monohydrate is probably the best, it's cheap and very cost effective. It's really up to you whether you want to buy protein powder or not, you can easily get enough from just normal food (eggs, meat, milk etc etc) but they are convenient, and make good snack options, so many people just get them anyway. If you're already doing swimming, I would suggest fucking off your other cardio exercises and taking up heavy weight training. "starting strength" by mark rippetoe is a good program and you can find the whole series for free on the internet. [editline]03:48AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mourek;23019563]Damn you guys do that diet stuff? I'd rather die than control myself eating...and no im not fatass[/QUOTE] Nope. If I've ever need to drop some bodyfat, all I've done is increase my workload without increasing food intake. Problem solved. However, I've only ever been as high as 15% bodyfat. Which to many of you would probably look "normal".
Haha are you serious? Sure creatine is found in our bodies but the creatine supplements are synthesized in factories out of chemicals, unlike the ones in our bodies. Why would you ever put in anything into your body which it doesn't need (most people already get enough creatine, unlike protein)? Protein is relatively harmless and I myself take it but creatine is unnatural and anything that interferes with your normal bodily functions isn't alright with me.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;23021819]Haha are you serious? Sure creatine is found in our bodies but the creatine supplements are synthesized in factories out of chemicals, unlike the ones in our bodies. Why would you ever put in anything into your body which it doesn't need (most people already get enough creatine, unlike protein)? Protein is relatively harmless and I myself take it but creatine is unnatural and anything that interferes with your normal bodily functions isn't alright with me.[/QUOTE] Hey bro, newsflash: you're probably taking in tens of thousands of chemicals that aren't naturally in your body every day and you don't even know it. Creatine monohydrate is acquired the same way any other chemical is acquired. Fact of the matter is, it's the most researched supplement in the history of sport supplements, and the exhaustive research concludes that it's safe, even in high dosages (which is useless, since anymore than 5g a day is just wasted and excreted). But I'll play devil's advocate here, you're right you don't NEED to supplement creatine, and I never said you did. Just like most people don't need to get their vitamins in supplemental forms or minerals and the like. But everything has it's purpose, and supplementing Creatine can be an effective tool for athletic performance.
[QUOTE=Benji;22979011]Stop drinking soda. Seriously. I didn't need to lose weight but I quit smoking, started eating healthy and working out daily a couple months ago. I lost about 20 pounds from only cutting that out of my diet to start. I've gained weight back now but it's muscle. I would also suggest improving your diet beyond just cutting sugary drinks out. Eat greek yogurt (low in fat and high in protein). Cottage cheese is great too, I eat a lot of that.[/QUOTE] Greek Yogurt is so awesome. And Cottage cheese. Damnit...now i need to go to the store
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;23022101]Hey bro, newsflash: you're probably taking in tens of thousands of chemicals that aren't naturally in your body every day and you don't even know it. Creatine monohydrate is acquired the same way any other chemical is acquired. Fact of the matter is, it's the most researched supplement in the history of sport supplements, and the exhaustive research concludes that it's safe, even in high dosages (which is useless, since anymore than 5g a day is just wasted and excreted). But I'll play devil's advocate here, you're right you don't NEED to supplement creatine, and I never said you did. Just like most people don't need to get their vitamins in supplemental forms or minerals and the like. But everything has it's purpose, and supplementing Creatine can be an effective tool for athletic performance.[/QUOTE] Extensive research? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. There is barely any studies over 5 years on it since it's so new. Any long term effects are unknown and only speculated. Oh and you said protein is harmless? Now I know you're just bullshitting. Too much protein will destroy your liver, and it will turn your blood more acidic. The calcium in your bones will be released to restore the normal blood levels and you will be losing bone mass. Just an FYI. It's not "just food", it's harmless in small amounts (50g shake a day or less) but anymore its almost deadly.
Cut off a bunch of flab and sacrifice it to Gluttony. Maybe he'll eat it and cauterize your wounds.
Take Duromine. Feels good man.
i quit drinking pop and eating sugary foods and lost about 10 pounds in a month or two, really helps
Yeah just try to eat healthy, it's a hundred times easier than most people think. After a bit, you get used to the healthy foods and actually prefer them over fatty foods. Substitute water instead of pop and fruit instead of candy/junk food. At first you'll be feeling cravings like no other but after a bit your body will actually treat you better for it. And you can have a few cheat meals a week if you want, like maybe a chocolate bar every Saturday or a can of pop once a week, something to keep you from going crazy. And other than that just do lots of exercise (running, soccer, swimming, whatever) and you'll be good.
[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;22981284]Your work out sounds good so far, as for me I would drop the protein shakes. Swimming is great for cardio and it helps work out your stomach muscles so if you swim seriously your stomach should be toned pretty quickly. Maybe vary it up and cycle through running, swimming, and biking; that's what I'm going to do. Also make sure you balance out your cardio with your strength training, you don't want to be super buff but unable to out run a 12 year old girl or vise versa. Oh and good luck! :patriot:[/QUOTE] I know a lot of swimmers on my high school varsity team that don't have all that great of a toned stomach. I think this swimming thing is getting over hyped in this thread. [editline]01:09AM[/editline] [QUOTE=demisemiquaver;22981862]I'm trying to lose weight too. Gonna start running every other day and work my upper body with push ups and whatever on the days in between. Swimming [b]also puts very little strain on your joints I think[/b] so that's another benefit. For me the disadvantage of swimming is to get to the nearest pool is 30 minutes on the bus which sucks because I like to just get up and go with exercise (reason I chose running).[/QUOTE] It dominates your rotation cups, quick.
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