Is there actually any way to go into a place like limbo, my life sucks right now :smith:
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;29873166]I've never heard of that, actually. What is it?[/QUOTE]
Read OP on methods to talking with your sub.
I kind of liked Zinayzen's thread more (Or atleast OP and author). It had more information on different related matters. And it was a good read too. This threads op is direct, precise and overly simplified.
PS: Doesn't mean i dislike this / this one is bad. I just liked v2 more.
[QUOTE=Oblivious1;29876532]Read OP on methods to talking with your sub.[/QUOTE]
Seems weird and i didn't get it. I mean why would you want to talk with sub indirectly using pendant or something. If you can summon pendant, you can summon subconscious as well. So why not simply talk directly?
Well now that I'm out of school and unemployed, I've got time. I'll write v4.
yaaaaaaaaay
[editline]16th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Eonart;29876791]tell me your secrets
where exactly do i place this pen[/QUOTE]
Check this shit
[img]http://imageshack.us/m/859/7630/ideomtor.jpg[/img]
I use up=yes and down=no
[editline]16th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=creec;29876796]Seems weird and i didn't get it. I mean why would you want to talk with sub indirectly using pendant or something. If you can summon pendant, you can summon subconscious as well. So why not simply talk directly?[/QUOTE]
The pendant is in real life and you use the pendant because your sub can somewhat control twitches. Its a more definite way of communication for those who aren't too skilled in communicating with their subconscious.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;29879583] The pendant is in real life and you use the pendant because your sub can somewhat control twitches. Its a more definite way of communication for those who aren't too skilled in communicating with their subconscious.[/QUOTE] Or for those of us who haven't even had a LD yet.
[QUOTE=DJ999;29871989]So how would you go about doing that?[/QUOTE]
What do you mean? You mean would I do it? Because I have.
I have a feeling my sub and anti-self are already the same entity.
The last dream I remember was from Saturday night, I stole a pimp's car by carrying it under one arm and throwing it in a river.
I might try ideometer response some time. If I could get my hole arm going, I could have my sub type!
Well, your sub/anti-self technically ARE the same entity.
Fuck, read about [s]anti-subconscious[/s]. Sex in dream, i heard it just wakes you up, is it really possible. Also, when i am in a lucid dream, it's always like a hazy television, jumping and starting, and very out of focus, any way to fix that?
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;29882932]Well, your sub/anti-self technically ARE the same entity.[/QUOTE]
True, granted for me now it is literally.
My sc, in an interesting twist has revealed personality traits belonging to my "previous" sc and anti-self. I suppose that is not that surprising really. Can be confusing at moments.
Holy! As i read these posts i remembered i had a lucid dream today!
Too bad i only remember that i suddenly realized i was dreaming and started thinking through what to do now. First i calmed down and stabilized my dream by spinning and stuff. I remember i was talking to someone that i have to keep calm so that this dream won't crash.
I think it was really weird or maybe dangerous stuff happened. Maybe chase or something. I mean, i was insecure when i woke up, and felt happy for getting woken up.
Do you have to in a hypnotic state to do the ideomotor responce or do you do it normally awake as in not tired? It seems like you could mistake a twitch for an answer.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;29883462]Fuck, read about [s]anti-subconscious[/s]. Sex in dream, i heard it just wakes you up, is it really possible. Also, when i am in a lucid dream, it's always like a hazy television, jumping and starting, and very out of focus, any way to fix that?[/QUOTE]
I just had sex in a dream, so no, it dosn't necessarily wake you up.
I won some weird raffle and got a free months stay in a duplex. I called up all my friends and declared is the "party house". BBQ's, Xbox, Crazy shit, and that night I had sex with my friend's girlfriend. AND HE WAS OKAY WITH IT HAHAHHAHAHA
[editline]17th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Eonart;29884362]Nope. Fully awake. You have to check answer signs and ask obvious questions first to make sure you aren't the one twitching.[/QUOTE]
Is 2+2=4?
yes.
My favorite.
[QUOTE=Sabrina;29881364]What do you mean? You mean would I do it? Because I have.[/QUOTE]
No, he means how do you do it, which is what I would like to know as well.
[editline]17th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;29882932]Well, your sub/anti-self technically ARE the same entity.[/QUOTE]
I just thought deeply about this statement.
I've just talked with my sub. While I don't fully believe him, anti-self is like a division of the subconscious and through that, I assumed I could have a "sub", an anti-self and possibly a third being, but all still being of the same entity. He said it was a possibility.
Because I haven't been making an effort to go LD or even write down dreams, I need some people to help me test if this is true. I'll try to talk to my sub later into pitting me into a controlled LD simply for the purpose of the possibility.
My sub hasn't split into two like you guys. Its all there, kind and diabolical, good and evil.
Jesus Christ, I was wondering where this thread went! I hadn't seen it since the beginning of this thread, then apparently it got moved. Thank god I found it again.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;29885486]Is 2+2=4?
yes.
My favorite.[/QUOTE]
My hand is a bit shakey on its own so I can't tell if it's me or not..
[QUOTE=Oblivious1;29885633]No, he means how do you do it, which is what I would like to know as well.[/QUOTE]
Well, first of all [U]you have to be on the border of being schizophrenic[/U] which - for your sake - I doubt you are. You seriously need to have two personalities living side to side. The only difference between me and schizophrenia is that schizophrenics aren't aware when the other entity takes over. I, however, remain conscious and can kind of just know what's happening. You're just floating around being fucking nothing yet you know exactly what's happening in the world around you since you're connected to your senses. It's kind of like a dream at that time, you can imagine anything you want and it feels more real than regularly, just that it's not actual dream level "realism" since you're awake. Now the next thing would probably be to [U]arrange a contract[/U]. Usually these sidepersonalities are created unconsciously to deal with massive stress or extremely strong negative emotions you really can't control otherwise. Basically try to talk with it and find some sort of harmony. For example, I promised I'd look into practicing all forms of combat and survival and in turn it'd share it's information and tricks with me. [U]It's a trade either way.[/U] Now that takes a while to do. Once the contract is done, you can slowly start experimenting on switching sides. If the sidepersonality is hostile towards everyone else (which they tend to be) they always try to get to the surface and in control. Find a safe spot with not many people nearby and[U]just close your eyes, relax and drop every single sense away. Kind of like falling asleep.[/U] If it happens just right, the other personality slingshots into your place and you get plunged into unconsciousness. Waltz, my sideperson, described it as being lifted from cold water at super speed. I felt the exact opposite, being slammed into a still body of hot water. Then you just float around. [U]All your senses seem distant[/U] since you are kind of deep inside your own mind. The other personality keeps your body functioning however and if you focus hard enough you can literally watch through your own eyes as your body moves on it's own. Same thing with hearing and everything else. You can focus on one sense at a time or listen to them all distantly, whatever floats your boat.
Basically, in my case both personalities are aware of each other and can communicate similar to subconscious and yourself in dreams. Schizophrenics cannot have conversations or any kind of contact with the other side.
The only reason I brought it up here is because it feels [I]very similar[/I] to a dream.
Except, Schizophrenia is Audio and Visual Hallucinations, I would know, i was dating a Schizophrenic for a year. What you're referring to is Multiple Personality Disorder.
I had a dream that my parents got better internet last night. 'Twas sadly only a dream.
My dream recall has become worse than it was when I started posting here. At first I managed to get it up with some meditation/visualization/mantras before falling asleep. I think when I decided to enter my own brain, my sub realized what I was trying to do, and now I pass out almost instantly from getting into bed. I tried ideometer response, and got nothing. (besides learning that you can feel the burn of exercising, even in the tiny muscles of you hand.)
I guess I'll try to either get out of the office building, or get to my sub and see if I can fix this.
I had a dream last night that my brakes didn't work. God, I hate those dreams.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;29904405]I had a dream last night that my brakes didn't work. God, I hate those dreams.[/QUOTE]
I was driving car. It was a reality for me. Good that handbrake worked.
[QUOTE=Sabrina;29889890]Stuff about changing personalities[/QUOTE]
I think I'll give it a shot. I have never been checked for mental problems by a psychologist and neither have I considered about them, so what the heck, I could be on the border of "schrizophrenia" for all I could know.
[sp]A school claimed I had ADHD, which seemed true[/sp]
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
Hey, Uro, I'd like to hear how your method of switching personalities.
[QUOTE=kenji;29894997]Except, Schizophrenia is Audio and Visual Hallucinations, I would know, i was dating a Schizophrenic for a year. What you're referring to is Multiple Personality Disorder.[/QUOTE]
Oh.
Well, all I've known about schizophrenia is that my grandmother had it before she died and she also had split personalities. I guess she had MPD too. Thanks for telling that, now I won't be that illiterate anymore :v:
[QUOTE=Oblivious1;29906369]I think I'll give it a shot. I have never been checked for mental problems by a psychologist and neither have I considered about them, so what the heck, I could be on the border of "schrizophrenia" for all I could know.
[sp]A school claimed I had ADHD, which seemed true[/sp]
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
Hey, Uro, I'd like to hear how your method of switching personalities.[/QUOTE]
Hard to explain, but I shall try my best.
Early on I simply just did the actions that my sc was telling me too i suppose, say this, write that. Currently I can kind of.... relax and for example if i am typing, I will continue to do so without any knowledge of what i am typing. I have only done it a few times, seeing as my first experience was extremely negative. And schrizophrenia? I mean really? That just hurts.
[QUOTE=Uroborus;29923348]Hard to explain, but I shall try my best.
Early on I simply just did the actions that my sc was telling me too i suppose, say this, write that. Currently I can kind of.... relax and for example if i am typing, I will continue to do so without any knowledge of what i am typing. I have only done it a few times, seeing as my first experience was extremely negative. And schrizophrenia? I mean really? That just hurts.[/QUOTE]
Ok. First, I do what my sub says and then relax. Then I supposedly do something without knowing it.
I never really cared if I had mental problems or if I was experiencing any symptoms. But I don't think I'm schriz, so probably Sab's method is a no, but then your method sounds much like a simplified beginner's version of Sab's method.
I'll give it a shot. First, I just got to think of a way to talk to my sub IRL through words.
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