[QUOTE=Zinayzen;32154826]...you know, I've never thought of doing this, but you might try waking up, writing a couple paragraphs (in detail, because you need your brain to be awake) about what you want to dream about, and then go back to bed. Your brain will be awake and theoretically dwelling about what you just wrote down, and then when you start to dream it should, in theory, be about whatever you wrote down.
Granted, this isn't necessarily useful considering you'd be lucid and therefore could alter the dream any way you wanted, but having a guideline helps and it'd be a good way to wake your brain up. Someone test this for me.[/QUOTE]
How would it go for a person with ADHD?
Apart from that, I was inspired last night of a lucid dreaming method, that sort of/vaguely combine RILD, WILD and DILD. The method goes like this (assuming you get 8 hours of sleep) -
1) Go to sleep.
2) Wake yourself up using an alarm 4-5 hours later.
3) Record dream if there was a dream.
4) Go back to sleep.
5) Wake yourself up again 1 hour later.
6) Repeat steps 3 to 5 two more times. You can do third time if you want more sleep.
How it works (mostly theoretical at the moment): People who WILD using an alarm would wake up around 5 hours after having started sleeping so that they can jump into REM more easily. It is also easier to recall as it brings an abrupt halt to your dream. Sleep again and you go REM sooner. Alarm happens again, recall is good as abrupt halt occurs. Repeat... etc. In one of those 1 hour sleeps, you might get at least 1 LD, if not, you can always commend yourself on the improved recall.
I'm going to be trying it out for the next few days and I'll post results.
[sp]It was inspired by procrastination. I was thinking of waking up at 4am to do some homework, but decided procrastinate even further to 4:15am and then 5am, then went back to sleep and never touched the homework. During 4:15 to 5:00, I had a long lasting LD, shame I didn't do much since I didn't actually plan anything.[/sp]
Well, I pulled off a WILD/DILD Last night but really got back a odd result, I had noticed that I could not of been in this place that I was and then I was lucid, When I went to communicate with someone the whole thing turned against me and evolved more into a nightmare but under my control. I woke up pretty quickly but still kinda confused.
Dreams on the night of Thursday, September 8th
Dream one:
-I'm crawling through Half-Life style vents
-I guess I'm a spy of some sort
-Just crawl, and crawl, and crawl, listening to conversations that I can't remember
-Eventually get to some point where part of the vent falls, leaving me with the choice
of jumping into an Office Complex-looking area, or going back and finding another way
around
-Dream switches
Dream two:
-Playing Minecraft Beta 1.8
-It's awesome
-First I'm walking through some fortress-style thing
-Get on a tram that is kinda like the one in the beginning of Half-Life
-Goes for a while through some dark tunnel, only light is from tram
-Breaks down, I can just barely see some light at the end of the tunnel
-Get out and start walking
-Eventually reach the light, I see it's a big hologram with a picture of the Heavy Weapons
Guy
-Somehow I know this is the boss of the fortress ( =DDDDDDDDDDD), and past this hologram (which I can't see through) is the boss room
-Dream switches
Dream three(final)
-I'm some convict in a prison
-Morgan Freeman is another convict
-Some sort of underground gauntlet thingy where the other convicts smuggle me into
some arena type thing and I have to survive for some unknown reward
-Dream gets fuzzy
-Now I'm on the ground with an FBI agent standing over me with a pistol (looked like
a Makarov)
-Other FBI agents surrounding us
-One of them tells the agent standing over me (now referred to as J) not to kill me
-J says that I shot him with a 'Tessera' (??)
-I look to the floor on my left side, there's a pink credit card thing with a pistol grip
-I guess it functions kinda like a taser
-FBI agents arrest me
-Apparently the ring got raided, and all the other convicts that were there are being
arrested, too
-I pass Morgan Freeman, who is being escorted (in handcuffs) by some other FBI agents
-He gives me a subtle nod
-It feels as if this was supposed to happen
-End dream
POSSIBLE REASONS WHY THESE DREAMS OCCURED, MY INTERPRETATIONS
Dream one:
I've just started Freshman year of highschool (15), and I've been rather shy and have
not been very socially active, so maybe being a spy and crawling through vents is my
sub telling me that I should change that? Also, when the vent collapsed, instead of going
into the complex, I turned around and tried to find another direction (I think), so maybe
that's me avoiding situations? I did feel pretty content during this, which is also how I feel
when I'm generally just left alone (anti-social lawl). If not that, then I'm a natural fucking
born ninja.
Dream two:
I've been anticipating several (personal) things lately, and Minecraft 1.8 is one of them. I
guess using Minecraft 1.8 and my (likely) overexpectations for it is my mind telling me that
I need to worry about the present and not the future?
Dream three:
I dunno lol, somebody figure that one out.
Well son of a bitch, I must be precognitive. Who'da known that the day after I have a dream about 1.8, 1.8 is (pre)released!
One day I woke up in the middle of the night in sleep paralysis. I saw a a featureless face, with nothing but two eyes and a slit for a mouth. I was extremely scared, and it started to flash in my face like a light bulb being turned on and off over and over. And then It stopped, and I could move again. If I had closed my eyes, and thought about lucid dreaming, would I have a lucid dream?
I attempted lucid dreaming on LSD, and by god it works so fucking easy.
Well that was interseting. I got into lucid state about 4 times last night vai WILD but most of them started from a nightmare. And then when I gained lucidness the dream alnost stopped or hung.
Dreams on the night of Friday, September 9th
Dreams 1 - x
-Nightmares involving lotsa darkness and lotsa monsters that I cant remember, though
Freddy Krueger was one of them =( I say dreams 1-x because I don't know how many
there were
Dream y
-In a church type thing
-I was about to walk outside
-Posters on the wall with some text I can't remember
-Look out the window before I walk outside and see that there is literally nothing past the
door
-I find the concept of nothingness terrifying
-Realize that if nothing is there, it must be a dream
-Lucid
-Very, very, very vivid
-First, I look at the posters
-Raise both of my hands and point at the top two (There were four around a window in a
fashion like X W X where X is a poster and W is a window pane
X W X
-Point my index fingers at them
-Lower my index fingers, text on posters erase
-Do the same for bottom posters
-Put some text on them that I also can't remember
-"Wait, this is a dream.... and I'm an adolescent (yes these were my actual thoughts)..."
-Look up at the ceiling, summon cute girl from school
-Look down
-Cute girl is laying on floor in front of me
-dat ass
-Sexytimes (during this I did successfully stabilize the dream with hand rubbing)
-Finish, wake up
Possible reasons as to why I had dreams 1-x:
Yesterday had been quite a stressful day, and I was imagining hurting my brother (I fucking
hate that guy) as I was attempting WILD (which I guess was successful, though the dream
transition wasn't conscious, and the first several dreams weren't lucid), so that may have
induced the 'pain' part of the nightmares. As for the fact that I was having nightmares,
that may have been me watching a few scary movies before bed.
Notes on dream y:
Apparently, novice lucid dreamers are supposed to have trouble with having sex during a
dream. I did not (though the dream did start to fade away at some points, but I used hand
rubbing [without stopping the sexytimes] to stabilize the dream).
[QUOTE=Eonart;32160915]It was in the OP of the Lucid Dreaming thread in GD. Basically stay still and count to 100 mentally, then do RC and if you aren't dreaming, you start over but with another 20 added and if it fails add 20 again and keep doing that until you're dreaming.
Thanks for the idea but I can't wake up in the middle of the night. My little brother sleeps in the same room as I do so I can't use an alarm or anything like that.
[editline]7th September 2011[/editline]
Also learnt more about myself in my last dream.
Apparently if I had a choice to get killed while having sex or to get kicked out into the public while completely naked, I'd choose public nudity.[/QUOTE]
I wrote that OP. How did I forget about that? Weird.
That's a good strategy as long as you're not super focused on counting.
My favorite is still the finger one. Works hilariously well.
I had a dream that I was in my bed, and there was a bag next to me.
The bag moved, and giant wasp popped out.
I got so freaked out, I woke up in the exact same position.
[QUOTE=Baconator 7;32211585]Dreams on the night of Friday, September 9th[/QUOTE]
Im a really heavy sleeper, you'll find it hard to wake me up.
Therefore, my dreams rarely "collapse" even though i get very excited.
I started to have a dream when I was trying to go lucid. As the dream was getting clearer, I was about to a reality check out of habit, then I tripped in the dream and my body jerked. Attempt failed.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;32214596]I wrote that OP. How did I forget about that? Weird.
That's a good strategy as long as you're not super focused on counting.
My favorite is still the finger one. Works hilariously well.[/QUOTE]
The finger one?
I got into SP last night, but couldn't keep my heart rate down. I started to see thin, dark shapes on the edges of my "vision" (although my eyes were closed). Think the arms of Endermen from minecraft but completely different.
A lot of respect to Steven King, I love his books, but DAYUM, every time I sit down to read The Langoliers, my eyelids get heavy, and I keep hearing myself think "Fall asleep, I'll show you a fucking horror story." I today I decided, ah whatthehell, and fell asleep. Some dumbass fly kept landing on my face and waking me up, but every time I fell asleep, it was all BOOM INSTANT ACTION HORROR DREAM. It was fucking awesome and I enjoyed every heart-pounding second of it.
[editline]11th September 2011[/editline]
Also, since I kept waking up, it felt like episodes of the same set of dreams. It was awesome.
[editline]11th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stagan;32236653]The finger one?[/QUOTE]
You focus all your concentration into slightly slowly moving your finger, until your body falls asleep.
I was lucid, riding on a tricycle slowly towards a mirror. I tried to slow it down, but the breaks wouldn't stop. When I got close enough to the mirror my visage's neck snapped sideways and its eyes turned into black holes piercing my very soul :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Midtown123;32243444]I was lucid, riding on a tricycle slowly towards a mirror. I tried to slow it down, but the breaks wouldn't stop. When I got close enough to the mirror my visage's neck snapped sideways and its eyes turned into black holes piercing my very soul :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
Jesus fuck that's scary.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;32242056]
You focus all your concentration into slightly slowly moving your finger, until your body falls asleep.[/QUOTE]
Can you explain more in detail?
[QUOTE=Fiskepudding;32255442]Can you explain more in detail?[/QUOTE]
Zin could explain it much better, but pretty much, its exactly like WILD, only you focus on moving your index finder extremely slowly. Only think about your finger and moving it. After that, you just keep doing that until your body falls asleep, and so far as I can tell, you have a dream about moving your finger, you just have to tell the difference between being awake and dreaming.
[editline]12th September 2011[/editline]
...Or not, I can't remember too well.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;32256357]Zin could explain it much better, but pretty much, its exactly like WILD, only you focus on moving your index finder extremely slowly. Only think about your finger and moving it. After that, you just keep doing that until your body falls asleep, and so far as I can tell, you have a dream about moving your finger, you just have to tell the difference between being awake and dreaming.
[editline]12th September 2011[/editline]
...Or not, I can't remember too well.[/QUOTE]
Do you actually move your finger or just think about moving it?
you move it so little that it basically doesn't move, but the muscles do change shape a bit
Last night was weird.
I was laying in bed, totally still. I was sitting there trying to visualize waking up in my room. (I was hoping I could wake up in my room, walk out the door into a different place or whatever.) Anyways, I was just sitting motionless visualizing what it would feel like waking up in my room. Then my feet started to feel a numb tingly sensation in my feet. A few minutes later, my arms, then afterwards my legs until it was basically neck down. I was still laying motionless trying to visualize walking up in my room. I was at the point where I was unintentionally opening my eyes. Then, as I started thinking more about a different scene, my heart rate sped up and I started shaking a little bit. It was weird. It's worth mentioning aswell that before I got the numb sensation, I felt like my body was floating. If I imagined my bed turning on a roller coaster, I felt like my body was turning. Despite how weird it felt, I gave up and just went to sleep. I'd like to hear someone's opinion on what happened. I'm just curious if I was close.. :smile:
Last week I had the second dream I could remember. I was in a toy store just browsing along, and the guy who played M in the old Bond films showed up and tried to kill me with a stuffed bear. It went on for hours and ended with a toy lightsaber duel. I was just about to kill him when my dad woke me up at 5:00 and told me it was time for school. I took my shower, ate my breakfast, and was just about to get in the car when I woke up at 5:00 for real. The other dream I've had was where my friends and I were on patrol in WW2 and got slaughtered by a panzer ambush. Brains are scary things.
I had the worst dream yesterday. I remember my parents not being there (possibly you know.. the D word) and it's just me taking care of my little brother in a mojave wasteland kind of environment. Me and him scavenging shit and taking everything when suddently a huuuuge worm-like creature starts following us. I remember me and him running away. Me telling him to run because it was after him, but it was too late. The worm came out and got him D: that's when i woke up and realized it was a dream and i went and hugged him and he cussed at me and hit me.
My subconscious is making fun of me now =( That is, it's calling me fat.
In my dream last night, I was [the only person left in the world and] going through people's houses, or rather, going to people's freezer's and eating the ice cream I find inside (???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????) Flavors included: Hot fudge swirl (vanilla with a fudge swirl), hot fudge, regular chocolate, neopolitan, and Donut Fudge (???????????????????). All of them tasted as though my tongue orgasmed with every bite.
Tonight I'm going to have a successful WILD. What I've found in most guides and websites is that it suggests you focus on relaxation while avoiding movement at all cost. The problem is as Tim Post from Lucidipedia awcknowledges is that concentrating on one thing is very difficult; which in turn makes relaxation difficult. In his Advanced Lucid Dreaming series he suggests instead of focusing on relaxation and dismissing the random thoughts and dialogue that comes into your head simply involve yourself within them, and act as though you're already unfurling the dream around these thoughts. This is more natural and will allow your mind to relax which helps avoid the frustration of failing to concentrate. In fact this is how most people go to sleep each night; you don't focus on the intention of going to sleep do you? No, if anything you don't focus on anything, you think a little bit and eventually nod off to sleep. Same way to successfully WILD, instead you just must remind yourself that you are in fact still awake.
So this is what I'm going to do, so wish me best of luck on having my first WILD. :D
Also to add quickle for those worried about swallowing, if you find the urge to swallow simply do it and don't think anymore about it. I've found myself constantly over analyzing distractions like that which doom me to fail in my attempts. So if you think deep down "dammit I have to swallow, dammit I swallowed, am I still feeling SP numbness? Is this going to work?" then you naturally set yourself up to fail. My advice just let it pass and don't think about it.
I was in and out of sleep paralysis last night. I had the false sensation of blood filling my mouth, and I would've picked up on it as a hallucination but I've had to fall asleep with blood actually filling my mouth due to tooth removal.
Had a dream where I was playing a game on my DSi. It was some sort of shooter where you tapped on the screen to shoot people. Because I got an awesome enough combo, I got about 200 little blue ball/orb/marble point things.
After this I went to a store, and if you had just 100 of these things, you could use them to buy the next generation DSs (the one after 3DS. It doesn't have buttons!)
No buttons? Seems legit.
Recently my dreams are really vivid, but I can't remember them all too well. Basically, when I'm in the dream, I remember every detail, and I think and move for myself. Problem is, I don't really have time to write them down immediately.
Never been successfully WILD at night. It's rare; but it's my only way of ever lucid dreaming. :v:
[QUOTE=Birdman101;32256357]Zin could explain it much better, but pretty much, its exactly like WILD, only you focus on moving your index finder extremely slowly. Only think about your finger and moving it. After that, you just keep doing that until your body falls asleep, and so far as I can tell, you have a dream about moving your finger, you just have to tell the difference between being awake and dreaming.
[editline]12th September 2011[/editline]
...Or not, I can't remember too well.[/QUOTE]
That's basically right. I personally use my pinky because it's easier for me to barely move it, but I have no idea why and it's probably just a weird personal thing.
Basically, you focus on twitching your finger. Not significant amounts of twitching, just small little movements. Make the movement as small as possible. Don't do it super fast, and don't do it like you're rapidfiring your finger. Every time you breathe out, just twitch your finger.
It's hard to explain how your mind zones in on it, but basically you go into this weird zen state where nothing around you matters except your pinky, and even then it's a weird passive observation. Eventually you'll fall asleep. You'll know when that happens because instead of your pinky actually moving, it's like a weird phantom movement. Something will be off between your brain telling your pinky to move and your pinky actually moving. Once you're aware of this, try a reality check. If it fails and you're back in bed, don't get frustrated, just try it again.
The great thing about this trick (and other methods, but especially this one) is that you don't lose precious sleep time by trying it. If it doesn't work, you try it again. If you get frustrated, just stop moving your finger and go to sleep.
It's hard to explain how to focus but also not focus on something, but I tried the best I could. It's kind of like keeping an object in your peripheral vision, except you're keeping it in your peripheral thoughts.
I realize that sounds absurd. :< Sorry.
[editline]15th September 2011[/editline]
Also, I've got a lot of interesting things to share about the whole "anti-sub" thing. It won't help you out much, probably, but it's fascinating to know just how far back in history the idea goes.
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