[QUOTE=Birdman101;33024179]I had a dream about shadow men that would materialize and spy on me when I wasn't looking. I woke up, kicked my sheets off, then went back to sleep. I had another dream that I lived in a shack somewhere. I saw a shadow of a man on my floor, so I pretended not to notice and walked away. He materialized and followed me, but the floor was really creaky, so when he stepped, it was really loud. He stopped and said "Clever boy. Why don't you just come out here so we can discuss this peacefully?" I came out, and he looked hike a dirty homeless older Adam Jensen. He explained something to me, then led my to the college I was going to. He produced a piece of paper stating that I would fail all my classes, and said if I signed it, he would "release me from his care". I declined, and we went back to my shack. He said "Well then, you are going to stay right here and do exactly as I say." He had me sorting through lime beans and kidney beans (apparently kidney beans were poisonous), writing letters to my mom, and eating bacon. He was insistent on me eating a lot of bacon. He then dematerialized, possessed a HUUUUUGE dead tree, and pretty much became a tree man. He was walking around and transforming in the coolest fucking ways. I said "Man, I could totally watch this thing just walk around forever." He responded by looking straight at me and making a loud hideous noise. I responded with calling him buttfrustrated. At this point, I could feel myself in real life rolling around on the bed and damn near woke up. I realized that meant I was dreaming, but I decided to wait to go lucid until the dream was a lot more stable. After the dream stabilized again, the tree man reached down, lifted me up, and brought me close to his face. he started screaming at me "IT'S ME YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID YOU CAN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE ME ANY MORE. WHY DON'T YOU JUST WAKE THE FUCK UP. YOU CANT DO SHIT IN MY WORLD, MAYBE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING IN YOUR WORLD FOR FUCKING ONCE." I responded by growing out my legs and arms with inanimate objects to become as tall as him. He looked down and said "See? That looks completely fucking stupid." I agreed with him, then pushed him backwards over the edge of the dream, into the void of sleep. I heard him yelling as he fell. Then I woke up.[/QUOTE]
Now I'm concerned... Maybe I'll go read up more on schizophrenia.
Last night I dreamed about collecting gifts in TF2, I think I spent too much time on the gift server yesterday.
[QUOTE=Shock_Coil;33049627]Last night I dreamed about collecting gifts in TF2, I think I spent too much time on the gift server yesterday.[/QUOTE]
Shit dude tell me about it
...that fucking eye
[editline]30th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Midtown123;33047131]...Was that K?[/QUOTE]
Yeah
I asked him about it later and he was all "no hard feelings"
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;33042997] Wonder how the app does it...[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the exact same thing...
I think it sits on your bed and measures motions
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33053504]I think it sits on your bed and measures motions[/QUOTE]
Probably along with sound.
I wonder if it would work the same with white noise?
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33053504]I think it sits on your bed and measures motions[/QUOTE]
There are apps that do that, and they're fantastic for monitoring sleep cycles.
My point, however, is that it's impossible to measure if you had a lucid dream or not because you show NO external signs of it that would be detectable by a phone.
The ONLY way to judge that would be sensors on your eyes and maybe your spine, because you'd need to judge excessive REM and signals to your limbs. I'm calling BS on this. :<
Besides, I wouldn't get too confident in it. Even if it's somehow not a placebo, you'll judge your ability to go lucid by what that app tells you and not by what actually happens. By all means, use it, but don't place a lot of trust in it.
[editline]31st October 2011[/editline]
However, if that app DOES work, the DEILD reminders would be FANTASTIC.
And that, I believe, WOULD be recordable. you'd just have to have it set off a warning or message or whatever right after your first or second 4th cycle. Hm.
I'll have to do some research on this. If only I had an Android. :<
[editline]31st October 2011[/editline]
Apparently the guy that made the Android one is working on an iPhone version. Once that gets released, I'll check it out and let you guys know what I think. :<
I bet if you measured your eeg while you were sleeping you could tell if you were lucid or not
I had a dream this night that happened on my old school or something. The first part of it was boring so I'll just skip that.
Then an old classmate brought a bear (Like we would bring a dog) and let it roam on the lawn near a road.
One guy in a car got out the car and took a knife to the bear wanting to hurt it.
I wanted to try and stop him, but he said "If I get a feeling you're trying to stop me, I'll cut off your finger".
I tried to stop him and he started to cut off my thumb with a pair of scissors.
And then I thought to myself "Well, this can't be real". And since there was no pain I knew it was a dream.
Unfortunately I woke myself with the adrenaline surge of having a lucid dream. I did try the spinning around trick, but didn't help.
Also, when he started cutting my finger I didn't feel anything, but I sure as hell could hear the same sound it makes when you cut say a leg off of a chicken.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33058842]I bet if you measured your eeg while you were sleeping you could tell if you were lucid or not[/QUOTE]
I did read up about this and apparently it looks like a OBE on a EEG.
Had a fucking insane movie-style dream a day ago where I was basically spiderman and the plot involved me infiltrating a shady corporation to find evidence of nondescript unethical experiments.
I just remember this one bit where I was jumping between and riding trolleys at ridiculous speeds along tracks that curved through the air through a huge factory, like that bit near the end of Monsters, Inc and escaping into the sunlight.
I love those kinds of dreams so much, god damn it.
[quote]Had a dream 2 days ago where I was at a modern college with a caliber of students much like Harvard. I knew I was dreaming from the start, but I went along with the dream because I felt that if I tried to change too much I'd wake up. I also remember I distinctly didn't have any shoes or socks on. Well, in the same large town this college was located in, there was a tall brick factory within a large parking lot and 4 smokestakes along one side of it. Inside the factory the government had stored unused incendiary ammunitions and bombs, and that it had been abandoned many years ago. There were vines all over the building, chainlink fence around it, etc. I had this feeling that the bombs were going to catch fire from an electrical failure due to some construction a couple blocks away. I reasoned this within a few seconds, and then for some random reason some intense music just bled into the air from nowhere.
Then there was the enormous explosion. Not only did I hear the boom, I felt the shockwave in my chest and my head. Shells burst through the masonry, dust and smoke went everywhere, and burning bits of ammunition flew into the town, punching holes in cars, buildings, and the road. I ran somehow in perfect time with the music, as a wall of smoke enveloped everything. Strange thing is, I could [i]smell[/i] burning metal and other fumes, but I can't really remember ever being able to detect odors in dreams before.
So then at the end apparently I got a full scholarship to the school I was attending because I had been injured (???).[/quote]
I might have obtained ultimate power. In my dream, a black void, I ran across a green viper until it morphed into a green field. I tried making some landscaping, but couldn't manage it. So I call my sub in. We shake hands, he asks me what's up. "c, I'm losing my ld ability slowly. I need more power." "are you sure? That's a really big decision to make." "I know c, I do, but... This is just always so fun, I don't want it to end." "as you wish." I get sent to the void. My body becomes solid onyx coated. I do some experimenting, and arrive in a white void. The black falls off me in flakes, making my body an entity of pure light. Then, I spoke, but i wasn't controlling the words I said. "this is ultimate power... But where's c?" I pause...
I look at my arms, then I hear my own voice in that white void coming from my own mouth. "I am c. And c is me. This is ultimate power... Fusion with one's own subconscious..."
I threw bolts of green energy about and goofed off a bit before I woke up. I'm not sure what I've done but it sure was nice.
[QUOTE=xxfalconxx;33065718]I might have obtained ultimate power. In my dream, a black void, I ran across a green viper until it morphed into a green field. I tried making some landscaping, but couldn't manage it. So I call my sub in. We shake hands, he asks me what's up. "c, I'm losing my ld ability slowly. I need more power." "are you sure? That's a really big decision to make." "I know c, I do, but... This is just always so fun, I don't want it to end." "as you wish." I get sent to the void. My body becomes solid onyx coated. I do some experimenting, and arrive in a white void. The black falls off me in flakes, making my body an entity of pure light. Then, I spoke, but i wasn't controlling the words I said. "this is ultimate power... But where's c?" I pause...
I look at my arms, then I hear my own voice in that white void coming from my own mouth. "I am c. And c is me. This is ultimate power... Fusion with one's own subconscious..."
I threw bolts of green energy about and goofed off a bit before I woke up. I'm not sure what I've done but it sure was nice.[/QUOTE]
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For the people who arent opposed to it, I smoked salvia then went to bed straight afterwards and I had very lucid dreams. It is a listed effect as well.
on the android app, you write a symbol on the screen that signifies you had a lucid dream. it has a bunch of symbols
I wish it was available in my country.
if its free anyone mind sending me an apk?
All this talk about lucid dreaming makes me sad that I only dream once in a month maybe, at least I can only recall dreaming once in a month.
I want to be able to be in full control too :C
Do u write your dreams? You will forget them almost immediately unless you learn to recall.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33058842]I bet if you measured your eeg while you were sleeping you could tell if you were lucid or not[/QUOTE]
That's my point. You could tell if you had sophisticated equipment, but an Android phone on the side of your bed won't be able to tell you.
It's a placebo at best, I imagine. :< Don't get super reliant on it.
Also, I had fucking weird dreams again. My brain's trying to develop a new standard landscape, and it's beautiful. But it's not easy to just make one happen from out of the blue, and lots of odd things are happening.
I woke up 30 minutes before my alarm twice in a row now
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33072731]I woke up 30 minutes before my alarm twice in a row now[/QUOTE]
Is it bad I do that most of the time?
nah, just an effective internal clock.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;33072453]That's my point. You could tell if you had sophisticated equipment, but an Android phone on the side of your bed won't be able to tell you.
It's a placebo at best, I imagine. :< Don't get super reliant on it.[/QUOTE]
The program doesn't automatically tell you if you had a lucid or not etc. You draw a gesture of your choosing on the screen when you wake up from one (like L for lucid, D for normal dream) and it saves it as "lucid/normal dream at xx:xx", and then you go to sleep again.
I'm giving it a try tonight using my Android tablet.
[editline]1st November 2011[/editline]
And it also measures the sleep cycles with the motion/sound detection from what I see
[editline]1st November 2011[/editline]
After a few days of recording your sleep history the program can generate WILD/DEILD alerts for you by checking the average time of your REM sleep if I understand this right. Seems useful.
[editline]1st November 2011[/editline]
Here's a pic from the site.
[img]http://luciddreamingapp.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Android-lucid-dreaming-app-History-for-analysis.png[/img]
[quote]Entering dreams over time is very important, as it allows you to analyze them using History feature later: Notice how triangles (dreams) over 5 days cluster around specific times (all times are measured from time in bed). You may configure smart timer to deliver reminders around those times.[/quote]
i used it the other night and it said I woke up like 9 times
holy shit i don't remember anything.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;33072731]I woke up 30 minutes before my alarm twice in a row now[/QUOTE]
when I used to use an alarm I used to wake up minutes before it went off.
I've been having a very strange recurring dream in which I get set on fire, hardly ever remember my dreams so have no idea why it's sticking in there.
Any crazy symbolism behind it?
I usually have the most vivid dreams after sex. Maybe there's a correlation.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
I guess being with someone you love releases dopamine in the striatum in your brain. I'm going to look into it some more.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
Oxytocin and Dopamine directly influence dreams. Oxytocin seems to affect the mood of the dreams and dopamine the severity of dreams. Dopamine is regarded as the pleasure neurohormone and is released during the climax of sex... oxytocin gives you the feeling of attachment and the desire to cuddle.
This shit is real neat.
So, last night's app experiment worked out quite well. There are some things I'm wondering about though.
1) I've apparently marked a lucid to about 7:30 AM. I can't remember it at all. So either my dream recall has failed me or I accidentally put in a "lucid" gesture instead of "normal dream" gesture while being half-asleep.
2) At one point in the night, I woke up to the tablet screen flashing. I looked at it and it was basically a picture of a stormy isle with a small house and the lightning storm in the picture was what was causing the flashes of light coming from the device. I did a reality check and it failed, so it should have been real. But the sheer absurdity of what was on the screen says otherwise. The screen went dark after I shaked the device a bit and I went back to sleep. I'll have to check if this is some kind of "reminder" in the program that wakes you up intentionally for a WILD attempt, or if it really was just a false awakening (which would be the most realistic one I've had in my life).
3) There was a false awakening that I did notice though, where I started analyzing the output of the program and then I woke up.
4) I've put several "normal dream" gestures later on, which I remember inputting. Mostly in the last 3 hours of my sleep. It's nice because it shows me being completely asleep before a spike of activity recorded by the accelerometer/mic when I input the dream and then the activity goes back to zero again as I fall asleep instantly.
5) I need to re-calibrate the app, my accelerometer is too sensitive and there's a lot of "noise" in the graph where there shouldn't be.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
Oh, and it does say that it put out 3 "reminders" throughout the night, fittingly at points where I was in deep sleep, now I'm not sure whether the flashing thing was one of them. The options say reminders are off. I probably missed one.
[QUOTE=Orkel;33084719]So, last night's app experiment worked out quite well. There are some things I'm wondering about though.
1) I've apparently marked a lucid to about 7:30 AM. I can't remember it at all. So either my dream recall has failed me or I accidentally put in a "lucid" gesture instead of "normal dream" gesture while being half-asleep.
2) At one point in the night, I woke up to the tablet screen flashing. I looked at it and it was basically a picture of a stormy isle with a small house and the lightning storm in the picture was what was causing the flashes of light coming from the device. I did a reality check and it failed, so it should have been real. But the sheer absurdity of what was on the screen says otherwise. The screen went dark after I shaked the device a bit and I went back to sleep. I'll have to check if this is some kind of "reminder" in the program that wakes you up intentionally for a WILD attempt, or if it really was just a false awakening (which would be the most realistic one I've had in my life).
3) There was a false awakening that I did notice though, where I started analyzing the output of the program and then I woke up.
4) I've put several "normal dream" gestures later on, which I remember inputting. Mostly in the last 3 hours of my sleep. It's nice because it shows me being completely asleep before a spike of activity recorded by the accelerometer/mic when I input the dream and then the activity goes back to zero again as I fall asleep instantly.
5) I need to re-calibrate the app, my accelerometer is too sensitive and there's a lot of "noise" in the graph where there shouldn't be.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
Oh, and it does say that it put out 3 "reminders" throughout the night, fittingly at points where I was in deep sleep, now I'm not sure whether the flashing thing was one of them. The options say reminders are off. I probably missed one.[/QUOTE]
Hm. that's interesting, actually. Now I'm a bit curious to try it when it comes out.
For whoever was asking how dreams feel when you extend them, last night was a two-week dream and my head feels terrible. Although that might be unrelated, I'm pretty sick atm.
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