[QUOTE=Jetblack357;30172918]And sometimes those lies can endanger others...[/QUOTE]
Epilepsy endagners others, acid reflux does not... They can disqualify you from enlisting for the simplest of ailments, shit they can cure and take care of. That's why a lot of people lie to get in. They do their service and have succesful careers.
[QUOTE=camaroni;30172952]Hey Jetblack. Just letting you know that I'm heading off to Officer Development School with the Navy this fall. Glad to see that you're taking time to serve your country too.[/QUOTE]
Good luck, and which officer school is it?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;30172981]Good luck, and which officer school is it?[/QUOTE]
I think it's in Rhode Island. I'll do that for about 6 weeks then I'll get my commission as an officer. I'm going to be a Physician Assistant.
I had Acid Reflux when I was a little kid. Should I get a waiver saying that I am obviously fine now or should I not say a fucking thing about it?
25 Charlie, Radioman, US Army
Been in for a while, made a deployment. OP if you are enlisting in the Navy you will go to Chicago for basic. And because it January, you will be cold and you will get to see blankets of snow everywhere. Take it from a man who is originally from the state above. I wish you luck.
I hold alot of respect for my sister branches, Marines, Airforce, Navy. Some run ins I have had were unpleasant(like the incident with the naval ran D-fac), but most were alright, and may pretty upstanding guys.
[QUOTE=JeffAndersen;30154683]I usually hear Coast Guard to be honest. As far as in the Air Force you commonly hear this (while taking a joke about us.
Army aren't smart enough for the AF, not good enough for Marines.
Marines will kill you with their finger, but probably dumb as a box of rocks. (But you wouldn't tell them that.)
Air Force is mostly pilots, the rest sit behind desks (Chair force)
Navy is all gay seamen.
Who the fuck are the Coast Guard?
That's pretty much it. It's nothing serious, it's just the general joke poking fun at the other branches. I respect everyone and tend to not say too much since everyone needs a job really.[/QUOTE]
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Well I'm not going to lie, it's true. But at the end of the day we still kick eveyones ass.
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[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;30173106]I had Acid Reflux when I was a little kid. Should I get a waiver saying that I am obviously fine now or should I not say a fucking thing about it?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't even bother.
Good for the OP, I just got back from Bagram, Afghanistan (Bagram Airbase is like almost the main hub of Afghanistan, next to Kandahar). I had some Navy personnel attached to our unit (I'm part of a Army support element of the most boring nature.), I rather liked most of them except for two that sometimes got on my nerves with their work attitudes every once in a while. These two were attached with us directly at HQ, but the rest were spread around in our detachments where they perform their duties/jobs great and never had problem with them.
Anyway, OP if you get sent to Afghanistan, and you're not medical (or totally all combat), expect to be doing something different from your MOS. Unless it has the words cleaning, which you'll still totally do until you make at least NCO or Officer.
Met a Navy Officer that was normally on a Sub, he volunteered to go to Afghanistan, he works with setting up convoys and such. He did say he enjoyed it, since it was a change from being trapped on a in a metal tube, plus he said he had a bigger office.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;30173371]Well I'm not going to lie, it's true. But at the end of the day we still kick eveyones ass.
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I wouldn't even bother.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I figured. All of the horror stories I hear are unsettling. If the system works how you say though then :pcgaming:
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;30172296]They don't interview shit, I don't think you really understand how unsofisticated the enlistment process really is. All they do is a simple criminal backround check, that's it. I had to attain a top secret clearence for my work since i deal with classified avionics equipment, that was a more in depth backround check. I never signed over anything.
They interviewed my family, friends, and co workers when I went to SERE. The only thing that did was give them more information to torture me with.
Even if they found out about my medical history it's past the 6 month mark, they've invested too much in me to let me go. Thats how it works.[/QUOTE]
I'm in the process of getting a Top Secret clearance and they interviewed all sorts of people, friends, family, everyone in the neighborhood.
But it's true, no one will even ask for your medical records, my recruiter just told me not to tell them I broke my foot a few years ago.
[QUOTE=jaredop;30177076]I'm in the process of getting a Top Secret clearance and they interviewed all sorts of people, friends, family, everyone in the neighborhood.
But it's true, no one will even ask for your medical records, my recruiter just told me not to tell them I broke my foot a few years ago.[/QUOTE]
Remember, if your recruiter fucks you, it's your fault for not asking.
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I also wished I took the Job, when they offered, for that TS Clearance. I only have the crappier one under it, least that network still fun it look around but the NATO one is dumb.
All my recruiters are great, they told me they easily meet their quota so they don't have to fuck with people.
For everyone thinking about joining, be sure to check with your recruiter a lot, the job choices are pretty slim right now, it took me a LONG time to get what I wanted. My MOS is 35W by the way.
Being in an Air Force Family, AF has always been the way for me.... my grandfather was a Colonel who received the Distinguished Flying Cross. Before he passed, he told me to either join the Navy or the Air Force- he actually really respected the Navy.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;30172706]You are an idiot, seriously, stop giving advice on here. There is a reason they check you for medical conditions.[/QUOTE]
His recruiter is going to tell him the same damn thing. I've watched multiple recruiters from multiple branches tell multiple people to say they never had it. Any form of Eczema will not allow you to join, acid reflux, broken _____, surgeries (even wisdom teeth and tonsils need waivers I think).
I have a few damaged ribs from playing football when I was younger. There are no adverse effects.. at all. But I was told not to mention it.. just in case. Also apparently the MEPS station coming out of Minneapolis had a person working there who was almost famous for rejecting people. One guy was rejected for picking at his fingernails for "the onset of OCD".
Don't tell me to stop giving advice when you have absolutely no idea how the system works. It's all to get past MEPS.
Also, for the record, I hope everyone sees the advice given in this thread by military and non-military
and the huge difference between.. which is why I said you should only listen to military people.
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[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;30172296]They don't interview shit, I don't think you really understand how unsofisticated the enlistment process really is. All they do is a simple criminal backround check, that's it. I had to attain a top secret clearence for my work since i deal with classified avionics equipment, that was a more in depth backround check. I never signed over anything.[/QUOTE]
I'm jealous. I've got secret but my shop hasn't put me on the list for Top Secret yet. Not a big deal.. since only a few people need it but one day I'll get it. It's great to say you've had it especially when you get out apparently.. some jobs require it and it puts you ahead of everyone.
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[QUOTE=MaveDustaine;30171487]I dunno who to believe here :v:
But I'm still going to go in.
Born and raised on an indian reservation. For all of you reading this who grew up in a city, look at the ghetto areas, apply that to an entire town and there you have it, that's an indian reservation. What I'm saying is I want to get the fuck out of here. if I went the normal route and applied for sponsorship, well what the fuck would that get me? Desk job in Winnipeg (of all the fucking places) and that's barely half a step up.
Working on finishing high school right now then hopefully off I go. Wish me luck guys.[/QUOTE]
The military isn't [I]that[/I] racist. It's different. It also depends on your job. Where I work we're often inappropriate.. but no one takes it real serious. Stupid comments come out, maybe the black guy in our shop brought chicken "hey man you bring koolaid too?" and everyone laughs (and sometimes he actually did, and just laughs and says "Hell yeah I did") and that's the end of it. It all comes back around though. Or I'll lose something and be like "Dammit ____ stop stealing my stuff you make more then I do!" If anyone is TRULY racist and trying to be hurtful.. just you take it up your chain of command and deal with it accordingly.
[QUOTE=JeffAndersen;30180272]His recruiter is going to tell him the same damn thing. I've watched multiple recruiters from multiple branches tell multiple people to say they never had it. Any form of Eczema will not allow you to join, acid reflux, broken _____, surgeries (even wisdom teeth and tonsils need waivers I think).
I have a few damaged ribs from playing football when I was younger. There are no adverse effects.. at all. But I was told not to mention it.. just in case. Also apparently the MEPS station coming out of Minneapolis had a person working there who was almost famous for rejecting people. One guy was rejected for picking at his fingernails for "the onset of OCD".
Don't tell me to stop giving advice when you have absolutely no idea how the system works. It's all to get past MEPS.
Also, for the record, I hope everyone sees the advice given in this thread by military and non-military
and the huge difference between.. which is why I said you should only listen to military people.
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I'm jealous. I've got secret but my shop hasn't put me on the list for Top Secret yet. Not a big deal.. since only a few people need it but one day I'll get it. It's great to say you've had it especially when you get out apparently.. some jobs require it and it puts you ahead of everyone. Yes, MEPS will disqualify some, but if you want to put other people at risk just to get in the military then you don't deserve it.
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The military isn't [I]that[/I] racist. It's different. It also depends on your job. Where I work we're often inappropriate.. but no one takes it real serious. Stupid comments come out, maybe the black guy in our shop brought chicken "hey man you bring koolaid too?" and everyone laughs (and sometimes he actually did, and just laughs and says "Hell yeah I did") and that's the end of it. It all comes back around though. Or I'll lose something and be like "Dammit ____ stop stealing my stuff you make more then I do!" If anyone is TRULY racist and trying to be hurtful.. just you take it up your chain of command and deal with it accordingly.[/QUOTE]
Ok then, a few months before meps, I put a pipe about halfway through my foot, then had my wisodw teeth pulled out, and cut my arm open. Only thing they cared about was my foot, and they just had me walk around to see that my foot functioned properly.
I have one question.
When I graduate from college in a few years, I know I have to go through officer's training to become a pilot.
As far as I know, there are only 2 realistic options for me after college: Air Force Academy or OTS.
I'm unsure as to actually be eligible to apply to OTS. Do you have to already be enlisted in the air force to apply? Or can you recruit and go right into it after other engagements with the military? From what I understand, you can apply directly after college, I may be wrong.
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I'm jealous. I've got secret but my shop hasn't put me on the list for Top Secret yet. Not a big deal.. since only a few people need it but one day I'll get it. It's great to say you've had it especially when you get out apparently.. some jobs require it and it puts you ahead of everyone.
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It's great if you plan to work for the DoD or FBI after your enlisment.
And yes Minneapolis MEPS friggen sucks.
Fuck, I live in Minneapolis.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;30152452]Every branch of the military, as far as I know, has had people walk away with valuable lessons.
This includes the Navy, as showcased by my father.[/QUOTE]The valuable lesson my dad learned from 20 years in the Army was: don't join the military, even if you fuck up your education.
There's very little you can learn in the military that's useful elsewhere that can't be learned elsewhere.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;30156620]UncleJimmema, why is Army last on your list?[/QUOTE]Listed by percieved level of badassery, rather than more important things like the quality of equipment issued to it's members, amount of pay, quality of postings etc.
I think a lot of forces can teach you valuable stuff, especially if its Tech related. Some even put you through college/University.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;30186282]I think a lot of forces can teach you valuable stuff, especially if its Tech related. Some even put you through college/University.[/QUOTE]That can be learnt from elsewhere, though, which was my point. Nothing taught in the military that is useful outside in the military is only taught there. And many countries either give financial aid for higher education, or make it free altogether; although in the US it's probably an easier way to fund college/university education.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;30186326]That can be learnt from elsewhere, though, which was my point. Nothing taught in the military that is useful outside in the military is only taught there. And many countries either give financial aid for higher education, or make it free altogether; although in the US it's probably an easier way to fund college/university education.[/QUOTE]
I think theres only a very limited amount of European countries that provide free degree level education. And the whole experience of the military and the person it makes you is not available anywhere else. I know in the UK at least, military people are pretty highly regarded, and just being ex-miliotary can help job prospects. Thats if you don't get fucked up by any stress related illnesses like PTSD or the transition back to civvie street.
The Army is a great choice if you want a wide scope of potential assignments, and it gets progressively narrower as you go through each different branch into more specialized fields.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;30151906]Well, I signed up for the Navy on January 31st. Ive always been interested in it, and their technology. I signed up for the submarine electronics and computers field, and am wondering if anyone here on facepunch would have some stories of how the Navy is like to share. I ship out to the Great Lakes training facility on July 26th.[/QUOTE]
Congrats on joining! After I finish my BA, I'll be joining the Air Force. Hope you enjoy it!
Got back from recruiter.
I scored ~117 in ALL fields.
25 Bravo is [B]MINE[/b]
They don't even have this recruitment stuff or tests or anything at my school.
[QUOTE=Baboo00;30189701]They don't even have this recruitment stuff or tests or anything at my school.[/QUOTE]
It's usually an option for schools to host the ASVAB. Many of them in my area are held in certain armories or bases nearby. Recruiters also consist of 99.9% of the stands at my High School's career day so yeah.
My school didn't host an ASVAB, I had to go to MEPS to take it.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30189736]It's usually an option for schools to host the ASVAB. Many of them in my area are held in certain armories or bases nearby. Recruiters also consist of 99.9% of the stands at my High School's career day so yeah.[/QUOTE]
We have recruiters come to our lunch like everyday.
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