[QUOTE=gman003-main;21220512]At the very least, the law needs to be changed so it isn't contradictory.
If I (theoretically) go out, shoot and kill a pregnant woman, I get slapped with a double homicide.
She kills the fetus, she gets... nothing.
You can't have it both ways, women. Is it alive or not? You can't pick and choose depending on the situation.[/QUOTE]
One has the bearers consent, the other does not.
Why is that so hard to fathom?
[QUOTE=Kylel999;21220198]except babies dont have lives, souls dont exist and God is fake[/QUOTE]
Babies are alive, technically....
And you have just as little proof disproving the existence of God and souls as religious people.
In my honest opinion, the truly logical path is agnosticism.
There's no proof for or against the existence of an all-powerful being, so one should remain undecided until there is proof or someone manages to truly disprove the existence of God.
I am a non-denominational Christian, and I know that in virtually all religions, different degrees of harm are recognized.
I'm pretty sure that prior to three months in the womb, the nervous systems of developing babies aren't active at all, hence they are not conscious beings yet.
At this point in time, ending the life of the baby would be like eating a walnut.
Are you killing a tree? No, of course not. But, some potential has been lost.
I think abortion should be legalized for the first three months of term.
I don't want to see human beings controlling the bodies of other human beings, and making abortion illegal would be controlling the bodies of women.
[QUOTE=toxicweirdo;21219576]Babies have a life, its proved through God's text, and science. Why do you want to [b]MURDER[/b] an innocent child? Children can feel emotionally what you do to them, and it's not right to just kill a soul because you can't take care of it, atleast give it up for adoption! Really people! It's not that hard![/QUOTE]
How dare you even attempt to influence such personal decisions like that, not everyone believes in souls and shit like that.
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Come on guys, obvious troll is obvious.
You do realize that:
1) Until a certain age it isn't considered a living human being
2) The child can't be emotianally hurt if they are still in the womb
3) They can't feel it
4) You're a fag
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Come on guys, obvious troll is obvious.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean this thread doesn't have potential for discussion.
[QUOTE=Cell;21220616]Babies do in fact have lives....
And you have just as little proof disproving the existence of God and souls as religious people. In my honest opinion, the truly logical path is agnosticism; there's no proof for or against the existence of an all-powerful being, so one should remain undecided until there is proof
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We technically don't have "proof" of anything other than cogito ergo sum.
We base our whole understanding of the universe on what is logical, and what is not. Personally, I don't think it's too logical to believe that something all powerful created the universe, and predated it, and had the power to create matter, and had the power to give "me" consciousness.
[QUOTE=rathat48;21220742]Yep, troll.[/QUOTE]
I think everyone knows that by now. The thread is (at this point) serving its purpose as a platform for debate about abortion.
[QUOTE=toxicweirdo;21219729]They should convert to God[/QUOTE]
I wish I could convert to a god, I would do so many awesome things, like...everything.
[QUOTE=Cell;21220616]
I think abortion should be legalized [B]at any time prior to birth.[/B]
I don't want to see human beings controlling the bodies of other human beings, and making abortion illegal would be controlling the bodies of women.[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
I don't want an idiotic government making choices for me based on a few thousand year old book and religion.
[QUOTE=rathat48;21220742]I wish I could convert to a god, I would do so many awesome things, like...everything.[/QUOTE]
*Some bastard cuts you off in traffic*
You: Sonofabitch!
*Their car blows up*
You: :byodood:
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;21220794]Fixed.
I don't want an idiotic government making choices for me based on a few thousand year old book and religion.[/QUOTE]
[b]My water broke! Oh shit! ABORTION TIME![/b]
[QUOTE=Cell;21220616]
In my honest opinion, the truly logical path is agnosticism.
There's no proof for or against the existence of an all-powerful being, so one should remain undecided until there is proof or someone manages to truly disprove the existence of God.[/QUOTE]
Agnoticism is pretty retarded and not "Truly logical" in any sense.
It's pretty much for people who are too afraid to be wrong.
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;21219683]i have my babies for breakfast, abortion is tasty![/QUOTE]
You're disgusting. I mean, babies for BREAKFAST?! YOU EAT THEM AS AN APPETIZER!
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