How my best friend actually got raped and wasn't just saying it for attention
386 replies, posted
Why not just go beat the fuck out of the guy?
OP you better have got the cops already like you said a couple of pages ago but honestly you're a [b]STUPID FUCK[/B] that it took you this long. Better late than never I suppose...
[QUOTE=TH89;30232341]unreported.[/QUOTE]
do you mean reported?
[QUOTE=DTkach;30215331]"Doesn't use the word rape". How else can you put it? Taking advantage of a plastered chick makes you an asshole, not a rapist. Now if the poller didn't bullshit them, holy shit what the fuck is wrong with people.[/QUOTE]
We were told in school (well, this is laws for Western Australia anyway, it's obviously different everywhere) If you have sex with someone and they can't/don't give consent, it is rape. Being drunk/high/etc was on the list of "can't give consent" or some really weird thing like that
People are still fucked up anywho
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30233767]do you mean reported?[/QUOTE]
Yeah whoops, fixing
[QUOTE=sam6420;30234616]If I got raped I'd be like "Suck it virgins!"[/QUOTE]
Cease posting.
OP needs to update now, if he's for real or not.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30231343]Too bad this does happen, and its not like the people involved make it a big deal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning such a thing, but its still not rape.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is wrong with you? [b]The letter of the law says it's rape.[/b]
I'm terrified for everyone that has to interact with you around alcohol
I don't know how big this Aiden guys is but i would seriously consider paying the man a visit.
Not like he can really say anything to the cops since he's in bigger shit than you would be.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
I don't condone physical harm. But when the cops don't act you might have to take matters in own hands right?
[QUOTE=DTkach;30216394]Rape is unwanted sexual intercourse. If a girl gets drunk and acts like a whore, and some guy coerces her into sex, its consensual. She may regret it, but its not rape. That is my point.
Having sex with an unconscious person is obviously a different story.[/QUOTE]
What if both of you are unconscious?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30235071]What the fuck is wrong with you? [b]The letter of the law says it's rape.[/b]
I'm terrified for everyone that has to interact with you around alcohol[/QUOTE]
I love how because I'm explaining what is and is not rape it automatically makes me a rapist.
So, you're telling me that if someone knowingly gets plastered, is approached by someone they don't know, agree to have sex in their drunken state, and then wake up the next day and regrets it, its ok for them to cry rape? That's fucking retarded.
That's not even the point I was trying to make with my first post: The wording of the poller could have a major effect on the result.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Vollybomb;30235747]What if both of you are unconscious?[/QUOTE]
Then there'd be a lot of nothing going on me thinks.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235754]I love how because I'm explaining what is and is not rape it automatically makes me a rapist.
So, you're telling me that if someone knowingly gets plastered, is approached by someone they don't know, agree to have sex in their drunken state, and then wake up the next day and regrets it, its ok for them to cry rape? That's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE]
It isn't "crying rape" you damned misogynist, if someone is in a state where they are not able to make responsible decisions for themselves and you take advantage of it you're coercing them. If you coerce someone into sex it's rape. There is nothing retarded at all here.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30235789]It isn't "crying rape" you damned misogynist, if someone is in a state where they are not able to make responsible decisions for themselves and you take advantage of it you're coercing them. If you coerce someone into sex it's rape. There is nothing retarded at all here.[/QUOTE]
So someone can hide behind alcohol to do whatever the fuck they want? They might not have sense when they're drunk, but they have sense enough before that to not get plastered if they know they are an easy target.
It just seems ridiculous that someone can get put in jail because Cindy had one to many and started dry-humping anything with a pulse. I'm not saying "let's lead this dillusional chick away and have our way with her", I mean someone approaching someone else and getting laid as a result, but one party was drunk at the time, and regrets that decision.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
That would be a really good way to put someone you don't like behind bars.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
Apparently I hate woman now, despite my original post in this topic and all. Guess I should edit it with "BITCH HAD IT COMIN'", right?
So what happend, did he call the police? Or is he still a whiney bitch?
[QUOTE=Vollybomb;30235747]What if both of you are unconscious?[/QUOTE]
Good luck trying to rape someone when you're asleep dumbass.
It would be insanely stupid not to inform police.
You say she is getting raped at a daily basis?
then how does it hurt her to inform police if she is aleready getting hurt by these bastards?
INFORM POLICE NOW!
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235822]So someone can hide behind alcohol to do whatever the fuck they want? They might not have sense when they're drunk, but they have sense enough before that to not get plastered if they know they are an easy target.[/quote]
Yeah, and maybe they shouldn't have worn those sexy clothes, they should have realized that it might set off a rapist. Damn bitches always crying rape.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235822]It just seems ridiculous that someone can get put in jail because Cindy had one to many and started dry-humping anything with a pulse. I'm not saying "let's lead this dillusional chick away and have our way with her", I mean someone approaching someone else and getting laid as a result, but one party was drunk at the time, and regrets that decision.[/QUOTE]
If a drunk chick hits on you [b]it is your responsibility to not take advantage of her[/b] because you're the sober one and the one able to make the better decisions.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30242539]Yeah, and maybe they shouldn't have worn those sexy clothes, they should have realized that it might set off a rapist. Damn bitches always crying rape.
If a drunk chick hits on you [b]it is your responsibility to not take advantage of her[/b] because you're the sober one and the one able to make the better decisions.[/QUOTE]
What happens if both are drunk, then?
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235754]I love how because I'm explaining what is and is not rape it automatically makes me a rapist.[/QUOTE]
If you are "explaining" how rape is "not rape" under the right circumstances (girl is a "drunk whore") then yeah, that is pretty fucked up and misogynistic dude.
Having sex with a drunk woman is basically like having sex without her consent, which is rape.
Don't rape women please!
itt having sex with drunk women is not rape discussion
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235754]I love how because I'm explaining what is and is not rape it automatically makes me a rapist.
So, you're telling me that if someone knowingly gets plastered, is approached by someone they don't know, agree to have sex in their drunken state, and then wake up the next day and regrets it, its ok for them to cry rape? That's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] It doesn't make you a rapist, it makes you an enabler.
"Oh, it's not [i]their[/i] fault they raped somebody, the victim was ________, so it's totally fine."
Also,[QUOTE=Last or First;30224140]Except that if you're drunk, you're incapable of valid consent.
And I would imagine that "taking advantage of a girl to fuck her" is, well, rape.
WOMEN AREN'T ALLOWED TO GET DRUNK
ONLY GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRINK
WOMEN SHOULD JUST STAY HOME, WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN BARS AND HAVING FUN
IT'S THEIR FAULT THAT PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM IN ORDER TO FUCK THEM OVER
TOTALLY NOT THE RAPISTS
How about this: fuck off.
And don't say "Oooh, I didn't say that~", because you fucking did. You said that if a women gets drunk enough that they're incapable of valid consent, that it's their own fault for some dickweed taking advantage of her state and brutalizing her. Instead it being the fault of, oh, I don't know, THE FUCKING RAPIST.
I reiterate: fuck. off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235822][b]So someone can hide behind alcohol to do whatever the fuck they want?[/b] They might not have sense when they're drunk, but they have sense enough before that to not get plastered if they know they are an easy target.
It just seems ridiculous that someone can get put in jail because Cindy had one to many and started dry-humping anything with a pulse. I'm not saying "let's lead this dillusional chick away and have our way with her", I mean someone approaching someone else and getting laid as a result, but one party was drunk at the time, and regrets that decision.[/QUOTE]
Bold: I'm pretty sure that saying "It's okay that I raped her, I was drunk / she was drunk" would be, oh, I don't know, [b]hiding behind alcohol to do whatever the fuck they want, don't you!?[/b]
Also, again, "Women shouldn't be allowed to drink! Any heinous crimes that they're victims of when they're drunk must be their fault!"
[url]http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/23/why-ask-men-to-stop-raping-when-women-can-barricade-themselves-in-their-homes/[/url]
If you're really going to go with the "they shouldn't get plastered if they know rape will follow", why not ask the [b]perpetrators[/b] to not drink if they become drunken rape machines?
Leading a girl away to fuck her when she's drunk isn't much different than having a drunk girl approach you and then leading her away to fuck her. Sure, in one the drunk girl (who is incapable of valid consent, mind you) initiates it, but both involve leading a chick, that you know doesn't have full control over herself, to a room and fucking her, despite whether she would really want to or not when she's sober, aka actually in control of herself.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30242748]What happens if both are drunk, then?[/QUOTE]
Then they should get somebody to intervene.
It really depends on the individual situation there, though.
But the guy being drunk is off topic of the poll question, I guess.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30215331]"Doesn't use the word rape". How else can you put it? Taking advantage of a plastered chick makes you an asshole, not a rapist. Now if the poller didn't bullshit them, holy shit what the fuck is wrong with people.[/QUOTE]
So if a fat shemale pulled you when you were drunk, you'd just say (s)he was an asshole?
[QUOTE=TH89;30243460]If you are "explaining" how rape is "not rape" under the right circumstances (girl is a "drunk whore") then yeah, that is pretty fucked up and misogynistic dude.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck does that make it misogynistic? I'm not saying its ok whether or not its dubbed rape, I'm debating the point of whether or not its classified AS rape.
[QUOTE=Last or First;30243856]It doesn't make you a rapist, it makes you an enabler.
"Oh, it's not [i]their[/i] fault they raped somebody, the victim was ________, so it's totally fine."[/QUOTE]
That is not what I was saying at all. Forcing yourself on someone is still rape, yes, but what I'm saying is that in their drunken state, they agreed to CONSENSUAL SEX. Its not black and white like you people are saying. What if the person doesn't know shes drunk? Not everyone acts ridiculously when they have a few drinks, but it could make them more likely to shack up with some random person.
So basically you are all telling me that when you go to a bar or a club to meet people, your first question should be "How many drinks have you had? Because I don't feel like being charged with rape and being labeled as a sex offender."
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;30244488]So if a fat shemale pulled you when you were drunk, you'd just say (s)he was an asshole?[/QUOTE]
I would say that if you WILLINGLY went with them because you are stupid in your drunken state, its your fault. If they forced themselves on you, then obviously that's a different story.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30235822]So someone can hide behind alcohol to do whatever the fuck they want? They might not have sense when they're drunk, but they have sense enough before that to not get plastered if they know they are an easy target.[/QUOTE]
You tell 'em. I also think that all women should stay in their own house, and only leave it for church. Otherwise it's their own fault if something happens.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;30245455]You tell 'em. I also think that all women should stay in their own house, and only leave it for church. Otherwise it's their own fault if something happens.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit apparently I'm speaking some other language.
All you people hear is "hur hur woman are inferior" when I'm actually arguing what is considered rape, not if its ok to do.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30245743]Holy shit apparently I'm speaking some other language.
All you people hear is "hur hur woman are inferior" when I'm actually arguing what is considered rape, not if its ok to do.[/QUOTE]
That's funny, because what you actually said is that it's their own fault.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;30245839]That's funny, because what you actually said is that it's their own fault.[/QUOTE]
I said they shouldn't put themselves in situations where they are more likely to AGREE TO CONSENSUAL SEX.
That's not saying "Oh she dresses like a whore so she had it coming", its saying that if a person is a violent drunk, gets plastered, and punches someone in the face, they are responsible for their actions. If you get drunk and in that state have hilariously low standards that you pick up some person you just met, that's your fault.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
You people give me a headache.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30242748]What happens if both are drunk, then?[/QUOTE]
I can't see a judge letting a rape case go forward if both parties were right dickered
[QUOTE=DTkach;30245920]I said they shouldn't put themselves in situations where they are more likely to AGREE TO CONSENSUAL SEX.
That's not saying "Oh she dresses like a whore so she had it coming", its saying that if a person is a violent drunk, gets plastered, and punches someone in the face, they are responsible for their actions. If you get drunk and in that state have hilariously low standards that you pick up some person you just met, that's your fault.
[editline]4th June 2011[/editline]
You people give me a headache.[/QUOTE]
I haven't read this whole conversation but you're saying that if a drunk woman consents to sex it's not rape even if she's not of sound mind when consenting? If so I actually agree with you, of course it is rape if she passes out and he has sex with her or if she says no and he pushes her into it but if she consented then it's not rape. I don't think it's something to be proud of, taking advantage of someone who is so totally drunk (if you were also drunk then you're both in the same boat there), but it isn't rape.
I strongly disagree however with people who blame anyone who did actually get raped with reasons like "she wore revealing clothing", "she flirted with him all night", "she was drunk and passed out so it's her fault for drinking so much". Rape is always the rapist's fault, not the victim's.
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