Musicians Off-topic Discussion Thread v3 - Now with less dubstep and more trap - General

Do you guys have any artists you feel you would love to make music with? Personally I would love to work with Andrew W.K, John Garcia, Scott Hill, Axl Rose, Lady Gaga or Ke$ha. :) Edit ; I would also love to work with Kip Winger, dude's got insane talent

[QUOTE=Skeeter;45357295]Ke$ha. :)[/QUOTE] ew

[QUOTE=Skeeter;45357295]Do you guys have any artists you feel you would love to make music with? Personally I would love to work with Andrew W.K, John Garcia, Scott Hill, Axl Rose, Lady Gaga or Ke$ha. :)[/QUOTE] merzbow

[QUOTE=Dead Madman;45357404]ew[/QUOTE] What's wrong with that

[QUOTE=killerteacup;45358079]What's wrong with that[/QUOTE] I don't know if we're thinking of the same ke$ha

I'm talking about [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesha]This Ke$ha[/url]

[QUOTE=Skeeter;45358358]I'm talking about [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesha]This Ke$ha[/url][/QUOTE] why would you ever make a song with that walking disease

She has a lovely voice when she's not hiding it behind autotune, she's an extremely talented songwriter and from interviews and things I've read about her she's also very bright, and has done plenty of philantropy work. Just seems like a really fun and creative person that would be a lot of fun to work with. :)

"extremely talented songwriter" yeah she's really talented at her management paying out cash to dr. luke producing and writing all of her tracks

She's been writing songs ever since she was in highschool, she has also co-written almost all of her own songs as well (and written songs for other famous artists), I think that says a lot about her songwriting talent.

[QUOTE=Dead Madman;45358753]"extremely talented songwriter" yeah she's really talented at her management paying out cash to dr. luke producing and writing all of her tracks[/QUOTE] you hate her as though she's dissed you personally dude As for artists I'd like to work with, probably Hakita. Me and him are polar opposites, he writes long tracks with a lot of layers, and repetition, whereas everything I write is about 1:30 tops, and is pretty simplistic. Also Justice and SabastiAn because I have the capacity to write gritty house music, I just don't because It's a lot harder than simple waveforms.

[QUOTE=absolalone111;45358834] Also Justice and SabastiAn .[/QUOTE] now that's what i'm fucking talking about

How about places in music that drives you just crazy because of how brilliant it is? There's a part in the song "My Slow World" by the stupidiously good band Baron Bane, it is part of the bridge between the pre-chorus and chorus, at the very end there's this extremely simple two-note change that kickstarts the chorus and it is just so fuckgoddamn good, my whole body reacts to just how beautiful it is. [editline]11th July 2014[/editline] HEre it is; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNfNCNfhr5U#t=1m37[/url]

[QUOTE=absolalone111;45358834]you hate her as though she's dissed you personally dude As for artists I'd like to work with, probably Hakita. Me and him are polar opposites, he writes long tracks with a lot of layers, and repetition, whereas everything I write is about 1:30 tops, and is pretty simplistic. Also Justice and SabastiAn because I have the capacity to write gritty house music, I just don't because It's a lot harder than simple waveforms.[/QUOTE] if you wanna do something i'm up for it, i've never collaborated with anyone on a song before and i'm a bit occupied with other stuff right now, though

[QUOTE=Dead Madman;45358753]"extremely talented songwriter" yeah she's really talented at her management paying out cash to dr. luke producing and writing all of her tracks[/QUOTE] Stop being intolerant towards music you dislike it's not cool to do that its literally just being a prick about things you don't enjoy lol

Spinning some dnb live right now: [url]http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sonisdnb[/url] :)

I'm having my song "Black Magic & Vodoo Women" played on the radio right now, and wow it feels so fucking shitawesomecool to have it played on it even though it is only an internet radio-channel.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;45365605]Stop being intolerant towards music you dislike it's not cool to do that its literally just being a prick about things you don't enjoy lol[/QUOTE] "Tonight, we're going hard, hard, h-h-hard Just like the world is ours, ours, o-o-ours We're tearing it apart, part, p-p-part You know we're superstars, we are who we are We're dancin' like we're dumb, dumb, d-d-dumb Our bodies going numb, numb, n-n-numb We'll be forever young, young, y-y-young You know we're superstars, we are who we are" I mean, i don't think that's being a [I]prick about things you don't enjoy[/I], it's just the way of mainstream music industry I won't doubt that at a early stage of her career, she probably came up to a producer with her own stuff, but to believe she's the main songwriter in a record label hitmaking producer oriented industry is plain gullible [editline]15th July 2014[/editline] on another topic, i get really frustrated when i see artists and bands - usually one hit wonders, but not always - still dwelling on the past, surviving on hits from the 80's and 90's and still playing the same old songs, same old chords, the same old way, again and again, touring and recording live dvd's like seal playing kiss from a rose or scorpions rocking like a hurricane

[QUOTE=greeds;45395118]"Tonight, we're going hard, hard, h-h-hard Just like the world is ours, ours, o-o-ours We're tearing it apart, part, p-p-part You know we're superstars, we are who we are We're dancin' like we're dumb, dumb, d-d-dumb Our bodies going numb, numb, n-n-numb We'll be forever young, young, y-y-young You know we're superstars, we are who we are" I mean, i don't think that's being a [I]prick about things you don't enjoy[/I], it's just the way of mainstream music industry I won't doubt that at a early stage of her career, she probably came up to a producer with her own stuff, but to believe she's the main songwriter in a record label hitmaking producer oriented industry is plain gullible [editline]15th July 2014[/editline] on another topic, i get really frustrated when i see artists and bands - usually one hit wonders, but not always - still dwelling on the past, surviving on hits from the 80's and 90's and still playing the same old songs, same old chords, the same old way, again and again, touring and recording live dvd's like seal playing kiss from a rose or scorpions rocking like a hurricane[/QUOTE] I'm not saying she wrote her own songs. I don't know anything about that nor do I have an opinion on it. I'm saying you shouldn't be an asshole about somebody's music career or call them a bag of trash or a walking disease just because you don't like the music they put out. If you don't understand how that is in any way wrong then maybe you should take a good hard look at your attitude towards music in general

[QUOTE=greeds;45395118] I won't doubt that at a early stage of her career, she probably came up to a producer with her own stuff, but to believe she's the main songwriter in a record label hitmaking producer oriented industry is plain gullible[/quote] I'm only going by interviews I've watched and stuff I've read, according to her she wrote almost 70 songs for her second album, she is credited on 99% of her tracks as well as songwriter (with one-two people being credited as well), so why couldn't she be the main songwriter of her own stuff? Especially when she's been writing songs for other artists early on in her career. [QUOTE=greeds;45395118] on another topic, i get really frustrated when i see artists and bands - usually one hit wonders, but not always - still dwelling on the past, surviving on hits from the 80's and 90's and still playing the same old songs, same old chords, the same old way, again and again, touring and recording live dvd's like seal playing kiss from a rose or scorpions rocking like a hurricane[/QUOTE] They made songs that struck a chord with people, why should they not continue playing those songs? Playing in front of people is an insanely powerful drug, once you're hooked you just have to continue doing it. If I managed to write a song that not only I were extremely proud of but also managed to trickle itself into the heart of other people then I would continue to play it until I died. Hell, I got most of my tracks playlisted along with other music, because I love writing music and when I manage to make a track I like then you can be damn sure I will play it until it is completely ingrained in my dna.

[url]https://soundcloud.com/clint-mandela/anime-rules-the-nation[/url] Does it sound right ?

Hey buddy, first of all, welcome to the musicians gig room! Second, there's a thread for music in progress [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1250398]Over Here[/url] where you can post your track. This forum has a few rules that differ a lot from the main forum, since we're all musicians here. One of the main one being that if you ask for critique or thoughts on a track of yourself you're expected to return the favour. You can read about it in the first post of the thread I linked above, and you can also read it in the stickied rules thread!

[QUOTE=killerteacup;45396321]If you don't understand how that is in any way wrong then maybe you should take a good hard look at your attitude towards music in general[/QUOTE] That's the point, my attitude towards music is about creation, creative originality. I'm not shitting rules on people's heads. Even tho I agree people shouldn't act almighty, you must agree that today's music industry is about taking 4 chords from a techno hit from early 2000's and revamp it into a new Rihanna or Carly Rae Johnson song, writing generic lines like "i wanna part----y, dj play all night l----ong, we're here to paarrrrt---y" - and there's nothing wrong with stating that fact. I just don't agree with songs you have to wait 'till the bridge - usually after the second chorus - to get a glance of that artist's creativness. [QUOTE=Skeeter;45397866]They made songs that struck a chord with people, why should they not continue playing those songs? Playing in front of people is an insanely powerful drug, once you're hooked you just have to continue doing it. [/QUOTE] But that's about beeing seen and not beeing heard. Know what i mean? You wrote stuff that trickled itself into people's heart, and they're so deeply attached to those songs they heard in their early years that they practically won't care or care little about any of your new stuff. Hence bad reviews on new albums, "oh, pearl jam/mettalica/iron maiden just ain't the same anymore" And that's a dead end, people will fly through your whole new set longing to hear an album you wrote 20, 25 years ago. You might see the world differently, little stuff like your concept of love or loneliness. You might not even agree with what you wrote 20 years ago, yet you have to sing it like you always did.

one of my songs on soundcloud just got 88 listens today i wish i knew why

[QUOTE=greeds;45399415]That's the point, my attitude towards music is about creation, creative originality. I'm not shitting rules on people's heads. Even tho I agree people shouldn't act almighty, you must agree that today's music industry is about taking 4 chords from a techno hit from early 2000's and revamp it into a new Rihanna or Carly Rae Johnson song, writing generic lines like "i wanna part----y, dj play all night l----ong, we're here to paarrrrt---y" - and there's nothing wrong with stating that fact. I just don't agree with songs you have to wait 'till the bridge - usually after the second chorus - to get a glance of that artist's creativness. [/quote] No that's not today's music industry at all that is entirely wrong, furthermore you just said it, [I]you don't agree with it[/I] and that's subjective and you don't have to be a prick about other people's music ever. that's just straight up being a dick

[QUOTE=greeds;45399415]That's the point, my attitude towards music is about creation, creative originality. I'm not shitting rules on people's heads. Even tho I agree people shouldn't act almighty, you must agree that today's music industry is about taking 4 chords from a techno hit from early 2000's and revamp it into a new Rihanna or Carly Rae Johnson song, writing generic lines like "i wanna part----y, dj play all night l----ong, we're here to paarrrrt---y" - and there's nothing wrong with stating that fact. I just don't agree with songs you have to wait 'till the bridge - usually after the second chorus - to get a glance of that artist's creativness. But that's about beeing seen and not beeing heard. Know what i mean? You wrote stuff that trickled itself into people's heart, and they're so deeply attached to those songs they heard in their early years that they practically won't care or care little about any of your new stuff. Hence bad reviews on new albums, "oh, pearl jam/mettalica/iron maiden just ain't the same anymore" And that's a dead end, people will fly through your whole new set longing to hear an album you wrote 20, 25 years ago. You might see the world differently, little stuff like your concept of love or loneliness. You might not even agree with what you wrote 20 years ago, yet you have to sing it like you always did.[/QUOTE] both of these arguments are completely opinionated; it sounds like you're just hating on rihanna and carly rae. seriously dude, I would go see Pearl Jam, Metallica, and Iron maiden in a heart beat because I love their music. Maybe you don't like it?

Ugh, anyone have any ideas how to handle timing issues when composing music for video? The video editor and I agreed on a bpm and a reference track he would edit to, as I would compose the actual track for the video in the meantime. He wanted a trap-esque steady 4/4 beat, so that's what I did. But now that I have the video back (which is super well done), it turns out he took a lot of liberty timing wise. I'd have to incorporate like half a bar extra at random points to get the music to hit the right 'notes' so to speak together with the video, which just doesn't work musically. I shuffled my track around a bit under the video and found a few spots that could work, but it would either be silent for the first few seconds, or trail off halfway through the video. There has to be some way to handle this, other than completely rewriting the track... right? I'm gonna try and see if I can get away with a soundscape-esque opening for the silence at the beginning.

Woo! Got radio play in Finland thanks to Fanu. I got a great shoutout too. Buzzin' so hard from this now. My track is at the 39 minute mark, but the whole mix is full of solid tunes. [media]http://soundcloud.com/fanu/fanubassojuly21[/media] [editline]21st July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=healthpoint;45445571]Ugh, anyone have any ideas how to handle timing issues when composing music for video? The video editor and I agreed on a bpm and a reference track he would edit to, as I would compose the actual track for the video in the meantime. He wanted a trap-esque steady 4/4 beat, so that's what I did. But now that I have the video back (which is super well done), it turns out he took a lot of liberty timing wise. I'd have to incorporate like half a bar extra at random points to get the music to hit the right 'notes' so to speak together with the video, which just doesn't work musically. I shuffled my track around a bit under the video and found a few spots that could work, but it would either be silent for the first few seconds, or trail off halfway through the video. There has to be some way to handle this, other than completely rewriting the track... right? I'm gonna try and see if I can get away with a soundscape-esque opening for the silence at the beginning.[/QUOTE] Have you tried explaining/showing the issue to him yet?

[QUOTE=healthpoint;45445571]Ugh, anyone have any ideas how to handle timing issues when composing music for video? The video editor and I agreed on a bpm and a reference track he would edit to, as I would compose the actual track for the video in the meantime. He wanted a trap-esque steady 4/4 beat, so that's what I did. But now that I have the video back (which is super well done), it turns out he took a lot of liberty timing wise. I'd have to incorporate like half a bar extra at random points to get the music to hit the right 'notes' so to speak together with the video, which just doesn't work musically. I shuffled my track around a bit under the video and found a few spots that could work, but it would either be silent for the first few seconds, or trail off halfway through the video. There has to be some way to handle this, other than completely rewriting the track... right? I'm gonna try and see if I can get away with a soundscape-esque opening for the silence at the beginning.[/QUOTE] Seriously, work on some intro, be that if just some instruments or as you said with some soundscape or ambience, but don't rewrite everything. We do that all the time working with sync-music for video. They edit as they want and we have a hard time trying to fit everything, so intros with ambiences or somethings building-up is a nice working trick for that case.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;45461737] [editline]21st July 2014[/editline] Have you tried explaining/showing the issue to him yet?[/QUOTE] I sent him a mail, but he hasn't replied yet. I'm hoping that we can find a middle ground. It would be far easier if he could change his edit a bit according to my track, but I doubt that is gonna happen :v:. [QUOTE=NickoDomene;45462002]Seriously, work on some intro, be that if just some instruments or as you said with some soundscape or ambience, but don't rewrite everything. We do that all the time working with sync-music for video.[/QUOTE] The thing is that the track already has an intro, but it needs to be longer if I wanna sync the track like I have it now. The problem there is that it needs to be longer by like 5.36 bars or something silly like that (I don't know the exact length). I'm just gonna mess around some more until I receive a reply.