A plea to the "intelligent" half of America RE: Homosexuality - General

[QUOTE=archangel125;19514155]Guys, no ad hominem, please. The conversation has stayed largely civil thus far, let's try to keep it that way.[/QUOTE] Ahahaha. Bwahahaha. Ahahaha. Oh sorry you had me there for a minute. You are joking, eh?

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514183]I take it you're reffering to me. How long have you been a bisexual?[/QUOTE] 3 years. Right about when I hit puberty.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514172]Lizard Xing, I didn't choose to be bisexual, therefor your point about it being a choice is invalid.[/QUOTE] I have a question. No disrespect is meant, but how come we can't have straight pride parades?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514198]3 years. Right about when I hit puberty.[/QUOTE] And how old are you?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514182]No.[/QUOTE] Uhhh. Yes? Are you joking? Or are you serious?

Thread is on page 3 and hasn't fell into a mass pit of trolls and flaming I am surprise

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514203]I have a question. No disrespect is meant, but how come we can't have straight pride parades?[/QUOTE] Because no one bothers to organize one.

Lizard, if homosexuality is a choice, would you say that you could personally "choose" to lose all attraction to women and be attracted to men instead, just like that?

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514212]And how old are you?[/QUOTE] 15

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514203]I have a question. No disrespect is meant, but how come we can't have straight pride parades?[/QUOTE] Germany excelled in the 30s and 40s with those.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19513358]The whole purpose of life is to reproduce. You can't reproduce with some the same gender as you. We are genetically hard-wired to be attracted to the opposite gender and if you are not, you have a mental disorder.[/QUOTE] Oh dear I've gone 4 whole years as a semen-producing male without impregnating someone, how terrible Or maybe I've just ascended above thinking "we're animals so we should conform to animal life goals", just like the rest of the human race I'm not going to argue that hetero is "how it's supposed to be", and maybe [u]technically[/u] it's a mental disorder (I don't know) but regardless of any of that it doesn't affect their ability to have a successful part in society (provided homophobes don't push them back in majority) and given that many straight couples have sex while actively trying to avoid pregnancy the fact that homosexuals can't make love the conventional way is largely irrelevant. Let's be honest, people like Stephen Fry and Michael Stipe are both attracted to men, and they've achieved more in life than you or me most likely ever will. Why? Because, sir, the point of life is [i]not[/i] to reproduce. Maybe it was when we were too unevolved to perceive otherwise.

We've already risen to the top of the food chain, have a massive population without any natural predators (besides ourselves and our creations), and don't have much reason to adapt any extra genetic addons. (besides environment survivability and metabolism) What's harmful if a few of us don't pass on our DNA?

[QUOTE=w1z v2;19514215]Thread is on page 3 and hasn't fell into a mass pit of trolls and flaming I am surprise[/QUOTE] Either trolls or some thick people here.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19514231]Germany excelled in the 30s and 40s with those.[/QUOTE] Cool. To the time machine!

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;19514233]Oh dear I've gone 4 whole years as a semen-producing male without impregnating someone, how terrible Or maybe I've just ascended above thinking "we're animals so we should conform to animal life goals", just like the rest of the human race I'm not going to argue that hetero is "how it's supposed to be", and maybe [u]technically[/u] it's a mental disorder (I don't know) but regardless of any of that it doesn't affect their ability to have a successful part in society (provided homophobes don't push them back in majority) and given that many straight couples have sex while actively trying to avoid pregnancy the fact that homosexuals can't make love the conventional way is largely irrelevant. Let's be honest, people like Stephen Fry and Michael Stipe are both attracted to men, and they've achieved more in life than you or me most likely ever will. Why? Because, sir, the point of life is [i]not[/i] to reproduce. Maybe it was when we were too unevolved to perceive otherwise.[/QUOTE] And when they die what will be left behind otherthan their products?

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;19514233]Oh dear I've gone 4 whole years as a semen-producing male without impregnating someone, how terrible Or maybe I've just ascended above thinking "we're animals so we should conform to animal life goals", just like the rest of the human race I'm not going to argue that hetero is "how it's supposed to be", and maybe [u]technically[/u] it's a mental disorder (I don't know) but regardless of any of that it doesn't affect their ability to have a successful part in society (provided homophobes don't push them back in majority) and given that many straight couples have sex while actively trying to avoid pregnancy the fact that homosexuals can't make love the conventional way is largely irrelevant. Let's be honest, people like Stephen Fry and Michael Stipe are both attracted to men, and they've achieved more in life than you or me most likely ever will. Why? Because, sir, the point of life is [i]not[/i] to reproduce. Maybe it was when we were too unevolved to perceive otherwise.[/QUOTE] Well said. You, sir, are entirely correct.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19513488]You can't avoid the fact that it isn't what humans are supposed to do though. If we all turn gay we'll die out.[/QUOTE] Let's ignore any understanding of biology here

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514221]Because no one bothers to organize one.[/QUOTE] They are afraid [b]SOME[/b] gays will get all prissy about it. Which they would.

I don't get why people are so afraid of gays, it's not like they can make babies and they'll be born gay

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514284]They are afraid the GAYS will get all prissy about it. Which they would.[/QUOTE] Why? They hold their own pride parades, why can't others?

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514284]They are afraid the GAYS will get all prissy about it. Which they would.[/QUOTE] No we wouldn't. The idiot's (Who are most likely hetero) will say its homophobic.

[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514315]Why? They hold their own pride parades, why can't others?[/QUOTE] Double-standard.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19514280]Let's ignore any understanding of biology here[/QUOTE] Well Science is a belief, the same as other religions, and people in this are viewing this from a religious perspective, so I'm viewing it from a Scientific perspective. I'm not objecting to homosexuality.

[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514315]Why? They hold their own pride parades, why can't others?[/QUOTE] They wouldn't get prissy. The whole point of gay pride parades is that homosexuals have a day in which they can flaunt their sexuality without being condemned for it. Nobody ever condemns you for being straight.

[QUOTE=Incognito;19514073]This is the truth right here, I myself am I christian and yet I support both gay marriage and abortion. Why? because I would not be in the right telling someone what to do with their life or their bodies, that's what these fundamentalists that are against these things seem to forget. Luke 6:37-42 [37] "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."[/QUOTE] Do you have any idea how patronizing it is to gays when you quote that line? You're implying that they've done something that requires forgiveness.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514320]No we wouldn't. The idiot's (Who are most likely hetero) will say its homophobic.[/QUOTE] Okay. BRB organizing a straight pride parade.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514333]Well Science is a belief, the same as other religions, and people in this are viewing this from a religious perspective, so I'm viewing it from a Scientific perspective. I'm not objecting to homosexuality.[/QUOTE] Science isn't a belief, its the study of the natural world around us.

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514329]Double-standard.[/QUOTE] I doubt that the ENTIRE gay community lives by that.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514351]Science isn't a belief, its the study of the natural world around us.[/QUOTE] It's a theroy, the same as religion.

[QUOTE=archangel125;19514336]They wouldn't get prissy. The whole point of gay pride parades is that homosexuals have a day in which they can flaunt their sexuality without being condemned for it. Nobody ever condemns you for being straight.[/QUOTE] B-But San Francisco is a 24/7/365 gay pride parade. [editline]05:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514357]I doubt that the ENTIRE gay community lives by that.[/QUOTE] Some. Not all, but some. Not all straights are offended by gays.