A plea to the "intelligent" half of America RE: Homosexuality - General

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514367]It's a theroy, the same as religion.[/QUOTE] How can the study of things be a theory?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514351]Science isn't a belief, its the study of the natural world around us.[/QUOTE] Well going along with Darwinian theories I think it's a disorder because it sure as hell doesn't uh help the human race in general survive Not really against it though

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514367]It's a theroy, the same as religion.[/QUOTE] Science: Make a theory -> See how it works in reality -> Make theory better -> Repeat Religion: Get fucking high on shrooms -> Write your trip down -> Reject all facts of reality

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514370] Some. Not all, but some. Not all straights are offended by gays.[/QUOTE] But you said the 'GAYS' would be offended, not just some.

[QUOTE=Levithan;19513615]Religion is a necessity of life. It ain't true but people need something to believe in.[/QUOTE] I'm doing fine without it?

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514402]Well going along with Darwinian theories I think it's a disorder because it sure as hell doesn't uh help the human race in general survive Not really against it though[/QUOTE] What about infertile women? You against them? [editline]05:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514424]But you said the 'GAYS' would be offended, not just some.[/QUOTE] I fixed it.

How can Homosexuality be a mental disorder when animals in nature exhibit the same thing? (i know penguins, dolphins, fireflies and a few other animals do)

[QUOTE=evilking1;19514412]Science: Make a theory -> See how it works in reality -> Make theory better -> Repeat Religion: Get fucking high on shrooms -> Write your trip down -> Reject all facts of reality[/QUOTE] :lol: Agreed. But there are noble religious characters all throughout history that have taught alot of mordern culture about the value of life. It would be close-minded to simply say religion is a waste of time.

If I recall, the bible only said if a man is caught lying with another mad, they are too be stoned. Not that that is any better, but I didn't see any specifications against marriage. Disregarded people shouldn't get their balls in a twist just because a couple of guys or girls they don't know want to be a couple and take advantage of the benefits of marriage. It's not like gay people getting married are ruining my life. I like to think of God and the Devil more as concepts, God being creation and destruction, the Devil being human nature. But if God is really the all powerful dude people claim, then I don't see why he would condemn his own creations over such a menial thing. Killed and raped you say? Just repent and you get a one way ticket to heaven. Homosexual? HELL! NO EXCEPTIONS! And as far as reproduction, essentially yes, men and women are physically made to work together to reproduce, but considering that the population, according to the Census Bureau, is over 6,795,221,000, I don't think we need to worry about homosexuals not producing children when you got some countries making more babies than a toothpick factory. We should be focusing more attention to things of more concern, like ending wars, saving environments, pulling ourselves back to a state of economic stability, not this religious humbug.

I'm Christian, and I honestly don't really care about gay marriage, if they have it good for them, if they don't, live with it or go get civil unionship, thats they only way they're going to be able to be close to married in most places for a while.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514333]Well Science is a belief, the same as other religions, and people in this are viewing this from a religious perspective, so I'm viewing it from a Scientific perspective. I'm not objecting to homosexuality.[/QUOTE] Actually science is reality. Religion is a belief. Anyway, you seemed to ignore/not know that homosexuality is common and completely natural in nature (over 1500 species), that a homosexual probably [I]wouldn't[/I] reproduce, which would cause spreading of the genes, and that there are key biological differences between homosexuals, bisexuals and heterosexuals (especially in the brain). Glad to see you don't object.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514367]It's a theroy, the same as religion.[/QUOTE] Science is a dynamic theory. As more evidence is introduced, the theory is modified to remain current. Religion is a stagnant theory. As more evidence is introduced, heretics are burned at the stake.

[QUOTE=Llivavin;19514445]How can Homosexuality be a mental disorder when animals in nature exhibit the same thing? (i know penguins, dolphins, fireflies and a few other animals do)[/QUOTE] Not on the "it's a mental thingy" side, but animals can have mental disorders. Chain a dog and beat it for months in a row, I'd wonder if it isn't batshit insane after that.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;19514473]I'm Christian, and I honestly don't really care about gay marriage, if they have it good for them, if they don't, live with it or go get civil unionship, thats they only way they're going to be able to be close to married in most places for a while.[/QUOTE] Marriage has a lot of benefits.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;19514338]Do you have any idea how patronizing it is to gays when you quote that line? You're implying that they've done something that requires forgiveness.[/QUOTE] If they are dense and are determined to be offended they will take it that way, what the line means is how one should not judge others. Do not judge others based on their actions or choices, do not condemn others based on their actions or choices, and forgive whoever has wronged you so that you may be forgiven for when you wrong others.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19514412]Science: Make a theory -> See how it works in reality -> Make theory better -> Repeat Religion: Get fucking high on shrooms -> Write your trip down -> Reject all facts of reality[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that never happened with religion though :/

Also the bible only forbids gay sex.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;19514477] As more evidence is introduced, heretics are burned at the stake.[/QUOTE] This is not true.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;19514477]Science is a dynamic theory. As more evidence is introduced, the theory is modified to remain current. Religion is a stagnant theory. As more evidence is introduced, heretics are burned at the stake.[/QUOTE] Religion changes over time as well. Compare current beliefs to beliefs in the Middle Ages.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19514474]Actually science is reality. Religion is a belief. Anyway, you seemed to ignore/not know that homosexuality is common and completely natural in nature (over 1500 species), that a homosexual probably [I]wouldn't[/I] reproduce, which would cause spreading of the genes, and that there are key biological differences between homosexuals, bisexuals and heterosexuals (especially in the brain). Glad to see you don't object.[/QUOTE] 1500 species is minute to over 2 million. It simply isn't enough to gather a sample in ratio to all of the species that exist in the world.

[QUOTE=WWIII;19514509]This is not true.[/QUOTE] Not [b]ALWAYS[/b] true.

[QUOTE=Bledrix;19513738]More gays means more gay parades also HIV/AIDS will spread even more![/QUOTE] You could say the same about inbred rednecks, such as yourself.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19514488]Not on the "it's a mental thingy" side, but animals can have mental disorders. Chain a dog and beat it for months in a row, I'd wonder if it isn't batshit insane after that.[/QUOTE] That's behavioral modification. Mental Disorders are disorders that disrupt mental thinking, Animals can't think as we do.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19513358]The whole purpose of life is to reproduce. You can't reproduce with some the same gender as you. We are genetically hard-wired to be attracted to the opposite gender and if you are not, you have a mental disorder.[/QUOTE] No, it isn't. Humans have evolved way beyond the need to reproduce and have developed way beyond the need to listen to natural instinct. Besides that, there is no 'purpose' to life. Life itself had such a slim, near impossible chance of ever occuring. There was no creator to give us a purpose, it just happened. Now that I think about it, the argument that 'the purpose is to reproduce because animals do it' is not fact, it's just a theory because we know so little about animals and there is no basis for that to be a fact. Anyone who takes theories for facts is an idiot in my opinion.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;19514498]Pretty sure that never happened with religion though :/[/QUOTE] Oh really ever wondered why people listened to Jesus? Not since he was smart, handsome, or was a good speaker, it was that he could make wine from water and get everybody wasted.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514508]Also the bible only forbids gay sex.[/QUOTE] I'm not even religious and [B]I[/B] forbid gay sex.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514554]I'm not even religious and [B]I[/B] forbid gay sex.[/QUOTE] :colbert:

[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514512]Religion changes over time as well. Compare current beliefs to beliefs in the Middle Ages.[/QUOTE] Society has changed to make middle ages religious practices unacceptable, but religion's instruction manual hasn't. See: Bible

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514554]I'm not even religious and [B]I[/B] forbid gay sex.[/QUOTE] Why?

[QUOTE=Llivavin;19514541]That's behavioral modification. Mental Disorders are disorders that disrupt mental thinking, Animals can't think as we do.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, maybe the animals are so stupid they think they are the wrong gender then?