A plea to the "intelligent" half of America RE: Homosexuality - General

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19514855]Have fun getting blow up by a fanatical suicide bomber because he believed in his fairy tales.[/QUOTE] Yes, because all Muslims are terrorists that want to blow themselves up.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514861]Well put, religion was for peasents to prevent them from breaking laws and such. But it is undeniable that religion hasn't had a poistive influence on morden-day society.[/QUOTE] God bless america

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514861]Well put, religion was for peasents to prevent them from breaking laws and such. But it is undeniable that religion hasn't had a poistive influence on morden-day society.[/QUOTE] The negative influence has come from religious extremists, not religious persons in general.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514861]Well put, religion was for peasents to prevent them from breaking laws and such. [B]But it is undeniable that religion hasn't had a poistive influence on morden-day society.[/B][/QUOTE] The negatives largely outweigh any of the small benefits.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514787]A fake crutch, but a crutch at that.[/QUOTE] Your religious and you just admitted religion is false. Nice going.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514861]Well put, religion was for peasents to prevent them from breaking laws and such. But it is undeniable that religion hasn't had a poistive influence on morden-day society.[/QUOTE] Its negatives outweigh the positives in much the same way an elephant outweighs a mouse.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19514269]And when they die what will be left behind otherthan their products?[/QUOTE] You seem to want to devalue the array of media and entertainment these people have produced from their great talents and hard work, as if to say "if they didn't have kids what's the point" Yes, apart from [i]everything these people have produced in their lives[/i] they won't have left anything physical behind. Is that somehow a bad thing? It's not like continuing your bloodline somehow fundamentally makes your life more worthwhile. Take Michael Sachs, the actor who was involved in the prank calls made by Russel Brand and Jonathan Ross. Everyone knows him, he's Manuel from Fawlty Towers, nobody could forget him. His granddaughter, the one getting the phone calls, is a stripper or something like that. First time I've heard of her. Point is she's not had nearly as much recognition or affection from the public as Michael Sachs, and if she's had a baby, then that's fine, doesn't change the fact she's a stripper, and if Michael Sachs hadn't had any children it doesn't change that he's a well-loved actor from the classic comedy TV series. You know when people wanted to have children to continue their legacy? Medieval days, when kings and queens have children to take the throne when they die. I think you'll find from the medium by which we communicate alone that those times have been and gone.

[QUOTE=Incognito;19514895]Yes, because all Muslims are terrorists that want to blow themselves up.[/QUOTE] Where did I bring Muslims into this, or suggest that all of them do that? I'm not that ignorant. I'm just saying that if people are allowed to believe in their own convoluted fairy tales without some grasp on reality, they are just as dangerous as the criminally insane.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19514791]Also number one reason why interpretation of the bible has changed. In the Middle Ages barely anyone could read the bible.[/QUOTE] That was why the church was powerful.

[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;19514581]Why?[/QUOTE] Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] So it should be illegal because you don't like it.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] I don't think gay people like the thought of you ripping open a vagina.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19514910]The negatives largely outweigh any of the small benefits.[/QUOTE] Religion may not serve any purpose in todays world. But religious figures such as Ghandi or the Dalai Lama or even Jesus Christ have taught people values of life, this wisdom has been passed down from generations to generations, unitl it ends with us. Religions was orignally created as a dedication to these iconic people, until of course the inevitable greed came and cut in, only to ruin these religions.

I think it sort of depends on the person. If they're very open about it and just whore attention, I hate people like that. But if they're quiet about it, and don't mention it every other sentence, I'm completely fine with it.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] You do realize that straight couples engage in anal sex much more then gay people, right?

Is it so damn hard to just let gays be gay and mind your own shit? Honestly, people going out of their way to prevent them from getting married, creating theories about how their gayness is a choice, that "Adam and Steve" justification... Truly, such intolerance is the [b]ultimate[/b] faggotry.

[QUOTE=EXoDUSFLT;19515023]I think it sort of depends on the person. If they're very open about it and just whore attention, I hate people like that. But if they're quiet about it, and don't mention it every other sentence, I'm completely fine with it.[/QUOTE] Using it to increase their social status is what I meant by choice.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] Shut the hell up, it's not like they're just fucking naked on the sidewalk with shit spewing all over the place. I don't like gays, but I don't like it when people don't have rights even more.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19515051]Using it to increase their social status is what I meant by choice.[/QUOTE] But you said all gays in the beginning of thread.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19515017][B]Religion may not serve any purpose in todays world.[/B] But religious figures such as Ghandi or the Dalai Lama or even Jesus Christ have taught people values of life, this wisdom has been passed down from generations to generations, unitl it ends with us. Religions was orignally created as a dedication to these iconic people, until of course the inevitable greed came and cut in, only to ruin these religions.[/QUOTE] Don't make it sound like it has no impact. It has an impact and it's largely negative. Okay, religious people have taught us "the value of life". Let's recap. Dalai Lama - Forget everything in your life, and live in a temple and don't do anything fun and pray all day. Jesus Christ - You were born a sinner and you have to do all this crap or else you're going to hell! So basically the basis is that you're dirty from the start. One hell of a life value.

Some religious people I know are the most intelligent yet tolerant people I know.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] You do know that heterosexual couples have anal sex as well, right? Also it feels good for males because of their prostate (not gay here)

[QUOTE=Jayhawker30;19515038]Is it so damn hard to just let gays be gay and mind your own shit? Honestly, people going out of their way to prevent them from getting married, creating theories about how their gayness is a choice, that "Adam and Steve" justification... Truly, such intolerance is the [b]ultimate[/b] faggotry.[/QUOTE] It pretty much is just rich owners of churches wanting to get richer. Trying to regain their power so they can gain wealth, but inevitably it won't work.

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE] It's not like you have to be a part of it. You don't even have to think about it. Just let a man be happy with another man.

[QUOTE=Killuah;19515096]Some religious people I know are the most intelligent yet tolerant people I know.[/QUOTE] How can you be intelligent yet ignorant of basic sciences.

[QUOTE=Killuah;19515096]Some religious people I know are the most intelligent yet tolerant people I know.[/QUOTE] Like I said earlier, at best, religion isn't harmful, at worst it's a ruthless killer and instigator of hate.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19515091]Don't make it sound like it has no impact. It has an impact and it's largely negative. Okay, religious people have taught us "the value of life". Let's recap. Dalai Lama - Forget everything in your life, and live in a temple and don't do anything fun and pray all day. Jesus Christ - You were born a sinner and you have to do all this crap or else you're going to hell! So basically the basis is that you're dirty from the start. One hell of a life value.[/QUOTE] I'm really scared to know what fuck ups taught you that being a good person was crap :ohdear:

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19515091]Don't make it sound like it has no impact. It has an impact and it's largely negative. Okay, religious people have taught us "the value of life". Let's recap. Dalai Lama - Forget everything in your life, and live in a temple and don't do anything fun and pray all day. Jesus Christ - You were born a sinner and you have to do all this crap or else you're going to hell! So basically the basis is that you're dirty from the start. One hell of a life value.[/QUOTE] I don't think either of those religions are that black and white.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19515091]Don't make it sound like it has no impact. It has an impact and it's largely negative. Okay, religious people have taught us "the value of life". Let's recap. Dalai Lama - Forget everything in your life, and live in a temple and don't do anything fun and pray all day. Jesus Christ - You were born a sinner and you have to do all this crap or else you're going to hell! So basically the basis is that you're dirty from the start. One hell of a life value.[/QUOTE] More like. Dalai Lama - Don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold. Jesus Christ - If it is one thing you'll learn, no matter who you are, you arn't replaceable. It depeneds on how you view their values. [editline]11:40PM[/editline] There's no way of simplifying different Religions.

In the end, Jesus died for our sins, so it's ok being gay I guess, if you are faith driven.