A plea to the "intelligent" half of America RE: Homosexuality - General

[QUOTE=Killuah;19515458]To be honest I think his legacy would be far less "mythic" if he had children.[/QUOTE] If he had children then they would in most likelihood commit suicide.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19515443]If there are exceptions then your original point is invalid.[/QUOTE] It's about personal opinion, if you want to die knowing that you're blood wont continue to live then thats fine.

Wait didn't adolf have children.... or am I thinking of another nazi...

[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;19514975]Because the thought of gay sex is disgusting. I don't mind gay people, but for fucks sake they don't have to rip open each others poopers.[/QUOTE]In case you didn't notice, sex in general is disgusting. In the act of either heterosexual or homosexual intercourse, penetrative or not, you're exchanging all kinds of bodily fluids, odors, nasty bacteria, viruses - and you're at a very high risk of catching a venereal disease or unwanted pregnancy.

To the "point of life" question: Maybe there is none. Maybe there is no "worth" to our life but after all, Heaven or not, who is gonna give it any worth but us?

[QUOTE=evilking1;19514412]Science: Make a theory -> See how it works in reality -> Make theory better -> Repeat Religion: Get fucking high on shrooms -> Write your trip down -> Reject all facts of reality[/QUOTE] All of this is just generalizing. Let me make some changes. Science: Hypothesize -> Create a working hypothesis - > if enough evidence is found, make it into a theory -> If even more evidence is found make the theory better, or a law Science: If evidence is already found, make it a theory - > find more evidence to make the theory better, or a law Religion: Figure out the world with just your imagination, metaphors, possible drug induced explanations on how the world works -> write it down, and hope it could be correct with how reality works

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19515503]It's about personal opinion, if you want to die knowing that you're blood wont continue to live then thats fine.[/QUOTE] Being gay doesn't mean you can't have children.

[QUOTE=Ilya;19515516]In case you didn't notice, sex in general is disgusting. In the act of either heterosexual or homosexual intercourse, penetrative or not, you're exchanging all kinds of bodily fluids, odors, nasty bacteria, viruses - and you're at a very high risk of catching a venereal disease or unwanted pregnancy.[/QUOTE] :geno:

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19515492]If he had children then they would in most likelihood commit suicide.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but that would make him more human, wouldn't it?

I don't see why anybody but gay people and civil rights extremists should even care. Gay marriage being legal or not has absolutely no impact on my life or the quality thereof and neither should it for any of you. Unless of course some of you are gay which really wouldn't surprise me. I don't get the whole "people are meant to reproduce so gays have a mental problem" argument either. It's pretty flawed. If that were entirely true (I say entirely because biologically it is true) then it should be illegal for straight people who can't reproduce (medical or otherwise) to get married because their marriage wouldn't be productive.

[QUOTE=Ilya;19515516]In case you didn't notice, sex in general is disgusting. In the act of either heterosexual or homosexual intercourse, penetrative or not, you're exchanging all kinds of bodily fluids, odors, nasty bacteria, viruses - and you're at a very high risk of catching a venereal disease or unwanted pregnancy.[/QUOTE] Yea but it's also as close as you could get to another person and that's wonderful.

[QUOTE=Howlthrug;19515525]All of this is just generalizing. Let me make some changes. Science: Hypothesize -> Create a working hypothesis - > if enough evidence is found, make it into a theory -> If even more evidence is found make the theory better, or a law Science: If evidence is already found, make it a theory - > find more evidence to make the theory better, [B]or a law[/B] Religion: Figure out the world with just your imagination, metaphors, possible drug induced explanations on how the world works -> write it down, and hope it could be correct with how reality works[/QUOTE] Ughhhhhhgggghh stop talking about things you don't know about. Laws are observations of reality. Theories never become laws. Laws are what happens, theories are why it happens. Do not mix. The theory of gravity explains how gravity works, the law of gravity states how things gravitate and when they will gravitate together and the acceleration and everything. Laws are an observation not an explanation.

[QUOTE=archangel125;19513288] The United States is supposed to be a free country.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=archangel125;19513288] Fight to pass laws that prohibit hate propaganda in the media.[/QUOTE] I sense a contradiction.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19515528]Being gay doesn't mean you can't have children.[/QUOTE] Being a legal guardian is different to be connected by blood.

This is a tough one...I think that being gay is not a choice. You can't choose what you like. Some people just choose to hide what they are really attracted too.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19515601]Being a legal guardian is different to be connected by blood.[/QUOTE] *cough* surrogates *cough*

[QUOTE=Killuah;19515575]Yea but it's also as close as you could get to another person and that's wonderful.[/QUOTE]Physically.

[QUOTE=Killuah;19515458]To be honest I think his legacy would be far less "mythic" if he had children.[/QUOTE] Oh man the tension at school, when there's the "bring your father to tell about his work" day.

[QUOTE=cyanide101;19515616]This is a tough one...I think that being gay is not a choice. You can't choose what you like. Some people just choose to hide what they are really attracted too.[/QUOTE] I think it's a preference. I just wonder what is the reason? The way you are brought up? Genetics?(probably not) But in the end, it's all about what you decide. You decide to be hetero, you are hetero. Maybe some attraction to same sex is left but as long as you want to be hetero, you are. That's how I see it.

[QUOTE=Ilya;19515647]Physically.[/QUOTE] Are you Asexual?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19515629]*cough* surrogates *cough*[/QUOTE] But even then, the DNA would only come from one of the two people in the relationship.

[QUOTE=Howlthrug;19515525]All of this is just generalizing. Let me make some changes. Science: Hypothesize -> Create a working hypothesis - > if enough evidence is found, make it into a theory -> If even more evidence is found make the theory better, or a law Science: If evidence is already found, make it a theory - > find more evidence to make the theory better, or a law Religion: Figure out the world with just your imagination, metaphors, possible drug induced explanations on how the world works -> write it down, and hope it could be correct with how reality works[/QUOTE] You didn't describe religion you described philosophy. Well philosophers used some sense. And there are no "laws" in science, it's just commonly accepted rules that have worked always for now.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19513358]The whole purpose of life is to reproduce. You can't reproduce with some the same gender as you. We are genetically hard-wired to be attracted to the opposite gender and if you are not, you have a mental disorder.[/QUOTE] You sir, are not allowed to believe or think that.

[QUOTE=Ilya;19515647]Physically.[/QUOTE] Also psychologically. Sex with somone you love is....

[QUOTE=Doctor_Communism;19515725]You sir, are not allowed to believe or think that.[/QUOTE] I can believe or think anything I wish to. The same way people can choose what sexuality they are.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;19515702]Are you Asexual?[/QUOTE]Yep.

[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19513488]You can't avoid the fact that it isn't what humans are supposed to do though. If we all turn gay we'll die out.[/QUOTE] Even in the worst case scenario, would it really matter if we did it doing what we love?

[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;19515554]I don't see why anybody but gay people and civil rights extremists should even care. [/QUOTE] They should care because so long as one group of society is inequal, [I]nobody [/I]is equal.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19515724]You didn't describe religion you described philosophy. Well philosophers used some sense. And there are [B]no "laws" in science[/B], it's just commonly accepted rules that have worked always for now.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_nature[/url]

In addition, if the world turned gay, we would just use artificial insemination. However, it is totally unrealistic that everyone would be gay. In reality, we really don't need more babies, the Earth is overpopulated as it is. So gays are doing a service to the world by abstaining from reproducing. You should all thank us.