I think the discussion might want to get back on track. Homosexuals =/= pedophiles and rapists
As for my two cents... I don't really see anything wrong with it. People are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, which is why I don't necessarily agree with people that think Homosexuality is wrong, I also don't believe in impeding their ability to voice their opinions either.
I do, however, believe that a lot of the problems could be solved with education and dispelling some of the stereotypes and misplaced beliefs going around.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34572769]Full on action in public is not acceptable regardless of sexuality, and it's even worse for people who disagree with homosexuality. Nobody wants to see a girl and a guy dry humping in the street, never mind guy on guy. This has never been acceptable behaviour.[/QUOTE]
Some of my friends and I think it's acceptable behavior. People do it around here quiet a bit and I've got no problems with it.
Why? Because it's not harming anyone.
You're saying that it's not ok because most people don't like it. Does that mean racism and slavery were ok two centuries ago because most people thought it was acceptable?
I know a couple of towns in the Southern US that don't like people without white skin, is it acceptable if they lynch them because most of them agree?
[QUOTE=Rubs10;34573838]Some of my friends and I think it's acceptable behavior. People do it around here quiet a bit and I've got no problems with it.
Why? Because it's not harming anyone.
You're saying that it's not ok because most people don't like it. Does that mean racism and slavery were ok two centuries ago because most people thought it was acceptable?
I know a couple of towns in the Southern US that don't like people without white skin, is it acceptable if they lynch them because most of them agree?[/QUOTE]
So you just tried to argue my point by saying that you and a few other people are fine with it and then some ridiculous... analogies?
Alright.
Is it OK to go in public and whip out my gigantic dong and furiously masturbate, making large splatters of semen in clear view? Because I think that's acceptable.
What you posted doesn't have any validity to it. Your views are clearly quite disgusting and don't please people. Just because YOU find it OK doesn't mean somebody else doesn't feel immensely repulsed by two gays kissing and crotch grabbing.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]So you just tried to argue my point by saying that you and a few other people are fine with it and then some ridiculous... [b]anal[/b]ogies?
Alright.
Is it OK to go in public and whip out my gigantic dong and furiously masturbate, making large splatters of semen in clear view? Because I think that's acceptable.
What you posted doesn't have any validity to it. Your views are clearly quite disgusting and don't please people. Just because YOU find it OK doesn't mean somebody else doesn't feel immensely repulsed by two gays kissing and crotch grabbing.[/QUOTE]
Relevant to thread.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]So you just tried to argue my point by saying that you and a few other people are fine with it and then some ridiculous... analogies?
Alright.
Is it OK to go in public and whip out my gigantic dong and furiously masturbate, making large splatters of semen in clear view? Because I think that's acceptable.
What you posted doesn't have any validity to it. Your views are clearly quite disgusting and don't please people. Just because YOU find it OK doesn't mean somebody else doesn't feel immensely repulsed by two gays kissing and crotch grabbing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but two gay people - or two anyone - kissing and crotch-grabbing is objectively harmless. If that disgusts you, maybe it's worth a bit of introspection on whether that disgust is valid or not.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]Is it OK to go in public and whip out my gigantic dong and furiously masturbate, making large splatters of semen in clear view? Because I think that's acceptable.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why I should care if you have your dick out in public, but there's a difference between that and making a mess everywhere.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]What you posted doesn't have any validity to it.[/QUOTE]
Actually I was pointing out your [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum]argumentum ad populum[/url] fallacy. Completely valid.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]Your views are clearly quite disgusting[/QUOTE]
If you think nudity and kissing is gross I guess you don't like porn. Or your own body for that matter.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]and don't please people.[/QUOTE]
Slavery pleased most people, does that make it ok?
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34575609]Just because YOU find it OK doesn't mean somebody else doesn't feel immensely repulsed by two gays kissing and crotch grabbing.[/QUOTE]
So if someone feels immensely repulsed by black people it's ok to go up to them and tell them to leave?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34568575]A serious mental disorder according to modern society. Throughout many other periods of history common things today in the past would be seen as mental disorders, or vice versa.[/QUOTE]
The difference then was people married younger or procreated at a younger age because people died quicker. However they didn't actually fuck children and even then it was considered taboo, people in the middle east often married children but until they came of age to actually bare a child, it was acceptable to have sex with someone around the age of 13 and still is around many places in the world.
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;34568613]The same could be said about homosexuals by some.[/QUOTE]
Except homosexuality is not caused by psychological effects.
[QUOTE=HateThyKing;34569831]Uhhh, yes it does...
If you rape a child that's a boy, and you're a man, that's homosexual.
"BUT BUT BUT THEY'RE KIDS"
The child is a boy. You're a man. How is this any difference from a male rapist raping a man?
"YEAH BUT HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GAY HE JUST WANTED TO RAPE A BOY THAT'S ALL."
Oh, okay. Not gay at all. Same thing goes if you're a woman raping a child that's a girl. Homosexual.[/QUOTE]
Except pedophiles are not homo-sexually exclusive.
If a man has sex or molests a female child by your logic that makes it straight sex and therefore morally wrong.
[QUOTE=Vasili;34576458]Except homosexuality is not caused by psychological effects.[/QUOTE]
That's a bold statement. Where's your evidence?
how the shit is it bold, its not. Major psychological associations can confirm its not a psychological effect.
[url]http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx[/url]
Good job quoting a source which was extremely careful not to point to any one cause instead advocating both nature AND nurture.
[editline]6th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Levithan;34569619]I'm not disgusted by pedophiles, but by those that have no self-control and become child molesters.
Being a pedophile is not some horrible disorder, no more than someone getting their rocks off to feet is.[/QUOTE]
Nope still pretty disgusted by pedophiles.
If I told you I wanted to get pissed on by a girll that'd most likely be pretty disgusting to you and you have every right to think that.
the majority of the people who claim homosexuality is psychological mean psychopathology, research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34578539]
Nope still pretty disgusted by pedophiles.
If I told you I wanted to get pissed on by a girll that'd most likely be pretty disgusting to you and you have every right to think that.[/QUOTE]
This raises a good point, being disgusted by acts of pedophilia versus the pedophile as a person. As long as you were just saying that you are disgusted by the acts, then your analogy is perfectly valid.
This can be used to relate to homosexuality in that it is okay to be "disgusted" by homosexuality, as long as that disgust is kept to yourself.
As for myself, I am not disgusted by things so much as recognize that I do not care for them.
Genes, hormones, choice, etc.
God, does it even matter...?
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34569071]I do the same and that also happens at my school. Just because you're gay doesn't give you the right to fuck in public while a straight couple can be disgraced for it.[/QUOTE]
Here is a prime example of this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oGTw7.png[/IMG]
Yes, I get it; you can be openly gay, there's nothing wrong with that, but when you post about humping a dude and fucking all the time it's taking it too far. Straight people are shunned and called whores and such when they do that.
Plenty of straight males say shit like that, especially the bro types - its men being men. I don't recall the last time a straight male has been called a whore saying similar things, usually get a high five or approval for being the alpha male. Its only the women who usually are called slut/whore because its deemed culturally unacceptable.
The main concern male homophobics have is they are afraid that gay men will come onto them. Maybe if more gay men did that they'd understand how females feel when men do it to them.
Gay, Straight w/e
Someone's sexuality is not important too me. The only time its annoying is when people make it their "Theme". For example there's a guy on another forum i post on who dedicates his whole character to being gay. His username is Gaymer. His avatars, signatures, and blogs again always about being gay or spamming men in blogs & its like its a fucking game forum noone cares.
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The whole "I don't like the way they flaunt it" is such a fucking retarded argument I can't even stand it, Just because there are people that flaunt that they're gay doesn't make it a problem with homosexuality, Its a problem with that person being annoying. I don't say i'm not cool with heterosexuality because some frat boys always talk about 'Pounding Vag'.
[QUOTE=Hellstrom;34581349]Gay, Straight w/e
Someone's sexuality is not important too me. The only time its annoying is when people make it their "Theme". For example there's a guy on another forum i post on who dedicates his whole character to being gay. His username is Gaymer. His avatars, signatures, and blogs again always about being gay or spamming men in blogs & its like its a fucking game forum noone cares.[/QUOTE]
Why would you dislike someone for expressing their personality? It's not like it impacts you in anyway.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34580019]Here is a prime example of this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oGTw7.png[/IMG]
Straight people are shunned and called whores and such when they do that.[/QUOTE]
Well women, perhaps.
And why is that?
[QUOTE=Rubs10;34582313]Why would you dislike someone for expressing their personality? It's not like it impacts you in anyway.[/QUOTE]
Lol as if thats expressing your personality. A video game forum is not the place for that. The user knows exactly what he's doing. Its pure trolling nothing short of it. When your entire persona is about being gay, when all your post are about being gay or something gaycentric on a video game forum it crosses the line of expression and into the line of trolling or attention whoring.
[QUOTE=Bletotum;34582354]Well women, perhaps.
And why is that?[/QUOTE]
It's not really an open thing to talk about. It's really suppose to be private.
well fun fact: people usually don't have such modesty like you do. Its not uncommon for people to do these kind of things. Don't blame the sexuality but the person instead.
I have no problem with gays because that's what I'm going after and we have a right to love who we want.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34583048]It's not really an open thing to talk about. It's really suppose to be private.[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34583048]It's not really an open thing to talk about. It's really suppose to be private.[/QUOTE]
I think that we'd all be better off being more open and able to talk about sexuality without feeling some kind of misplaced sense of shame or that it is somehow "dirty."
It's something that everyone will have a viewpoint on, and there's no reason to resign discussion on such matters to such a large degree as we already do.
[QUOTE=Hellstrom;34582640]Lol as if thats expressing your personality. A video game forum is not the place for that. The user knows exactly what he's doing. Its pure trolling nothing short of it. When your entire persona is about being gay, when all your post are about being gay or something gaycentric on a video game forum it crosses the line of expression and into the line of trolling or attention whoring.[/QUOTE]
So it has nothing to do with being gay and everything to do with trolling. Great. Why bring it up then? I could say I'm fine with homosexuals until they kill people, or rob someone, or rape, or any number of things.
[QUOTE=Bletotum;34583423]Why?[/QUOTE]
As Vasili said, I'm fairly modest. I wouldn't normally find something like that normal, although I might just be mistaken.
Actually I was asking why in particular you feel it is inappropriate.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34566959]Other thread was locked, continue debate in here.
Really, guys, there is nothing wrong with homosexuals.
(this thread is for general debate on why they're so commonly hated, what's wrong with them, ect)
fuck i swear is it their or there i'm terrible when it comes to grammar + titles[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;jjnrLt3VuSM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM[/video]
Oh god, I should never respond to threads about homosexuality.
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