• Antimatter
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[QUOTE=Zareox7;21371917]But once it's energy, it's no longer matter. I thought if it's matter its always matter.[/QUOTE] Matter can become energy and energy can become matter. It's just a exchange, or something like that.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;21371911]I never said it was impossible I just have doubts.[/QUOTE] You also said this: [QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;21371060]No the universe is made up of matter not anti matter.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zareox7;21371917]But once it's energy, it's no longer matter. I thought if it's matter its always matter.[/QUOTE] What happens if you burn a wood stick? Yes some of the matter will "convert" to energy in form of heat and light. So no, matter isn't always matter. It's said that matter is just energy in concentrated form, although I know nothing about it.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;21371971]So can you turn light back into matter then?[/QUOTE] Technically yes, since light is energy, and matter is energy, if you caught enough energy you could technically "condense" energy into matter. Somewhat like what happened in the big bang. That's how I understand it anyway.
Hmm, that's still pretty cool stuff. I'll understand more of this after I take Physics next year.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21372028]Technically yes, since light is energy, and matter is energy, if you caught enough energy you could technically "condense" energy into matter. Somewhat like what happened in the big bang. That's how I understand it anyway.[/QUOTE] It's just too bad that we don't know how to do it. That could lead to some interesting discoveries.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21372027]What happens if you burn a wood stick? Yes some of the matter will "convert" to energy in form of heat and light. So no, matter isn't always matter. It's said that matter is just energy in concentrated form, although I know nothing about it.[/QUOTE] Isn't that just a chemical reaction, where the energy is provided by the bonds being made? [editline]09:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21371994]I'd assume half is matter, half is anti-matter.[/QUOTE] Actually... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter#Origin_and_asymmetry[/url]
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21372098]Isn't that just a chemical reaction, where the energy is provided by the bonds being made? [editline]09:55PM[/editline] Actually... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter#Origin_and_asymmetry[/url][/QUOTE] Yes that's right, and breaking the bonds releases the energy in form of light and such.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21372098]Isn't that just a chemical reaction, where the energy is provided by the bonds being made? [editline]09:55PM[/editline] Actually... [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter#Origin_and_asymmetry[/URL][/QUOTE] Detectable from Earth however, we have no idea how big the universe is really, they keep claiming it's larger and larger. That's like a red ant from the USA saying there are no black ants, when really, all the black ants live in China.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21372144]Yes that's right, and breaking the bonds releases the energy in form of light and such.[/QUOTE] Other way round. It takes energy to break bonds, and making bonds releases energy. It's a potential energy thing. Imagine you've got two magnets and you attach the opposite poles - they spring towards each other (analogue to bond making). Then, prising them apart takes an input of energy from you.
[QUOTE=DiscoPony;21372081]It's just too bad that we don't know how to do it. That could lead to some interesting discoveries.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Charles Pellegrino]Cutting one another off in mid-sentence and completing our sentences for one another, we managed to simplify the Valkyrie's antimatter core by a factor of a hundred, in a single afternoon. Along the way, Pierre began to wonder what would happen if we aimed the world's most powerful laser directly into the path of gamma rays shooting out of a proton-antiproton reaction zone. When he went back to Stanford, the collision was arranged: photons of light (massless units which, while traveling at lightspeed, manifest simultaneously and self contradictorily as both particles and waves) collided with photons of light, their power sufficient to spin photons off as electrons and positrons. The world's first absorbic reaction, the conversion of energy to matter, is no longer science fiction (oh, goody – another brave new bomb, if we are unwise, and fail to pay attention).[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.charlespellegrino.com/propulsion.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21371575]It'd be funnier if they didn't realise.[/QUOTE] They couldn't even get into the atmosphere, more than likely not even the solar system, or perhaps galaxy, without hitting some antimatter and exploding.
But if humans are made of matter and go to antimatter part of space? Would it not explode?
[QUOTE=Rubs10;21372271]They couldn't even get into the atmosphere, more than likely not even the solar system, or perhaps galaxy, without hitting some antimatter and exploding.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know. [url]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny[/url]
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;21372280]But if humans are made of matter and go to antimatter part of space? Would it not explode?[/QUOTE] Except antimatter exists, you'd be able to see it.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21372188]Other way round. It takes energy to break bonds, and making bonds releases energy. It's a potential energy thing. Imagine you've got two magnets and you attach the opposite poles - they spring towards each other (analogue to bond making). Then, prising them apart takes an input of energy from you.[/QUOTE] Ah sorry I was wrong. Heh, potential energy, I'm going to have a test about it tomorrow :v: Edit: But if you provide the energy for a wood stick to burn. Then the reaction goes on by itself, releasing light and stuff. Is it breaking the bonds and then making bonds again or something? Edit: Ah, yes it's probably the Carbon making bonds with Oxygen to form CO2 that causes energy to be released.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21372316]Except antimatter exists, you'd be able to see it.[/QUOTE] There are plenty of gases that the human eye cannot see. But there are also particles that shoot through space, that if anyone of them hit a human spaceship, would explode.
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/2/c/52c7687643df1c12231b39e324850586.png[/IMG] This is why energy and matter are interchangeable. Now, since matter and anti-matter are the opposites of each other, does this mean that they are attracted to each other, much like all other things in nature? (Ex: men and women; magnets; etc.)
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;21371685]It isn't "better", it's different. Your comparason is illogical.[/QUOTE] Not illogical, meaning I would rather talk about dark matter because antimatter is boring IMO.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21372346]Ah sorry I was wrong. Heh, potential energy, I'm going to have a test about it tomorrow :v: Edit: But if you provide the energy for a wood stick to burn. Then the reaction goes on by itself, releasing light and stuff. Is it breaking the bonds and then making bonds again or something? Edit: Ah, yes it's probably the Carbon making bonds with Oxygen to form CO2 that causes energy to be released.[/QUOTE] That's it. The reaction's exothermic, which provides the energy to break bonds so that more bonds can be made so that more energy can be released to break bonds etc. In an exothermic reaction, the energy used in breaking bonds is obviously always less than the energy released by the formation of bonds. :science:
[QUOTE=Rubs10;21372408]There are plenty of gases that the human eye cannot see. But there are also particles that shoot through space, that if anyone of them hit a human spaceship, would explode.[/QUOTE] You can detect the gases however, also, I just thought of that single particle thing, I suppose you'd have to have some sort of shielding.
Everybody already knows this. At least those who are as smart as me :smug:
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21372465][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/2/c/52c7687643df1c12231b39e324850586.png[/IMG] This is why energy and matter are interchangeable. Now, since matter and anti-matter are the opposites of each other, does this mean that they are attracted to each other, much like all other things in nature? (Ex: men and women; magnets; etc.)[/QUOTE] No, it has the same properties as regular matter. Some say that Negative mater exists.
[QUOTE=rathat48;21372542]No, it has the same properties as regular matter.[/QUOTE] Yup. Although I always will imagine it as blue and glowing. Except you know, the charges.
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21372465][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/2/c/52c7687643df1c12231b39e324850586.png[/IMG] This is why energy and matter are interchangeable. Now, since matter and anti-matter are the opposites of each other, does this mean that they are attracted to each other, much like all other things in nature? (Ex: men and women; magnets; etc.)[/QUOTE] Googling "Matter antimatter attraction" reveals nothing.
[QUOTE=rathat48;21372542]No, it has the same properties as regular matter.[/QUOTE] However, a particle and its antiparticle will attract each other electrostatically, since they do have the opposite charges.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;21371043]Actually, matter and energy can be created spontaneously. Like OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE :aaa:[/QUOTE] But What about them teachers saying matter or energy cannot appear out of nowhere, or disappear into thin air, but rather it just changes from/into another form [editline]12:20AM[/editline] Sorry I'm not a rocket scientist
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21372601]But What about them teachers saying matter or energy cannot appear out of nowhere, or disappear into thin air, but rather it just changes from/into another form [editline]12:20AM[/editline] Sorry I'm not a rocket scientist[/QUOTE] You are correct. [editline]09:22PM[/editline] In high energy collisions matter can be formed out of energy. (just another form)
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21372601]But What about them teachers saying matter or energy cannot appear out of nowhere, or disappear into thin air, but rather it just changes from/into another form [editline]12:20AM[/editline] Sorry I'm not a rocket scientist[/QUOTE] It's kind of like... a vacuum is really a big soup of invisible, transient particles, and if a bunch of them happen to combine in the right way, they can make matter (but it's unlikely). At least, that's how I see it. Correct me if I'm wrong or inaccurate because I probably am. But yeah, I don't give a shit about vacuum energy because I know pretty much nothing about it. Conservation of energy is what you're talking about, which is a pretty sound concept.
This thread lost credibility when I saw the words Angels and Demons and the mention of antimatter storage so I stopped reading. You CANNOT store antimatter. Antimatter is uncharged and would be completely unaffected by magnetic fields. You also CANNOT store charged antiparticles like antiprotons in anything other than a cyclic particle accelerator. Antimatter doesn't just float around in the ionosphere as well. Antiparticles may flit into being during a decay or interaction with solar winds but they quickly annihilate or decay. You can't just stick up a huge net and catch it. Also if you are doing an informative thread please use some terminology. When matter meats antimatter, the subsequent interaction is called annihiliation. Some of this thread is correct, some of it is wishful thinking and some of it is wrong. Antimatter is always astounding though and deserves discussion. What I find amazing is positronium, a combination of an electron and a positron trapped in orbit with one another. It's not matter, nor antimatter but rather a combination of both which is rather intriguing.
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