• Antimatter
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[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21372465][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/2/c/52c7687643df1c12231b39e324850586.png[/IMG] This is why energy and matter are interchangeable. Now, since matter and anti-matter are the opposites of each other, does this mean that they are attracted to each other, much like all other things in nature? (Ex: men and women; magnets; etc.)[/QUOTE] What if one end of the universe was made of anti-matter and the other was just normal matter, and they are being pulled in towards each other untill they meet and we have an anti-big bang. One that destorys the universe instead of creating it? :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Lord Pirate;21372668]This thread lost credibility when I saw the words Angels and Demons and the mention of antimatter storage so I stopped reading. You CANNOT store antimatter. Antimatter is uncharged and would be completely unaffected by magnetic fields. You also CANNOT store charged antiparticles like antiprotons in anything other than a cyclic particle accelerator. Antimatter doesn't just float around in the ionosphere as well. Antiparticles may flit into being during a decay or interaction with solar winds but they quickly annihilate or decay. You can't just stick up a huge net and catch it. Also if you are doing an informative thread please use some terminology. When matter meats antimatter, the subsequent interaction is called annihiliation. Some of this thread is correct, some of it is wishful thinking and some of it is wrong. Antimatter is always astounding though and deserves discussion. What I find amazing is positronium, a combination of an electron and a positron trapped in orbit with one another. It's not matter, nor antimatter but rather a combination of both which is rather intriguing.[/QUOTE] lol, antimatter is not uncharged Edit: To be more specific, the same applies for antimatter as it does for its counterpart. It's just that the electrons are positive and the protons are negative.
How big is the resulting explosion per gram of Antimatter?
Why do you say 'we' in the OP? Do you work at CERN/Particle physicist? Not trolling/flaming, just curious.
So at the edges of an anti-matter solar system, there would be constant explosions, seeing as the anti-matter comes into contact with matter.
[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/24csbys.jpg[/IMG] (Please excuse the crudity of the model, I didn't have time to build it to scale) If we were able to contain the antimatter as shown above, with the gray being a magnetic field, could the electrostatic attraction between the antimatter and matter; as well as the magnetic field pushing the antimatter back, in perfect balance, be used as a way of generating electricity, or even propulsion, just a vague notion, can't really express it. [editline]05:31PM[/editline] And it would be in the shape of a perfect cube.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21372575]However, a particle and its antiparticle will attract each other electrostatically, since they do have the opposite charges.[/QUOTE] Good point.
[QUOTE=NecronLord15;21372748]Why do you say 'we' in the OP? Do you work at CERN/Particle physicist? Not trolling/flaming, just curious.[/QUOTE] Nope. We as in humanity.
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21372465]does this mean that they are attracted to each other, much like all other things in nature? (Ex: men and women;[/QUOTE] Biological imperatives are not the same as fundamental physical phenomena
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21372761][IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/24csbys.jpg[/IMG] (Please excuse the crudity of the model, I didn't have time to build it to scale) If we were able to contain the antimatter as shown above, with the gray being a magnetic field, could the electrostatic attraction between the antimatter and matter; as well as the magnetic field pushing the antimatter back, in perfect balance, be used as a way of generating electricity, or even propulsion, just a vague notion, can't really express it. [editline]05:31PM[/editline] And it would be in the shape of a perfect cube.[/QUOTE] Cheers. I actually have an old drawing from high school that depicted a cage for storing an antimatter animal, using the same principle. [editline]09:37PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BaconDioxide;21372575]However, a particle and its antiparticle will attract each other electrostatically, since they do have the opposite charges.[/QUOTE] But not if the particle is neutral, right?
[QUOTE=Neolithic v7;21372862]But not if the particle is neutral, right?[/QUOTE] Yeah. Say if you had two molecules, one of hydrogen and the other of antihydrogen, they'd just sit there. Unless you take Van der Waals forces into account, but that's more chemistry.
[QUOTE=Athena;21372857]Biological imperatives are not the same as fundamental physical phenomena[/QUOTE] The other part of that example was Magnets.
imagine an anti matter asteroid crashing into earth
[QUOTE=Saza;21372746]How big is the resulting explosion per gram of Antimatter?[/QUOTE] Use the E=mc^2 formula. Where m = mass in KG, c = speed of light. E comes out in Joules.
I don't understand why matter and antimatter explode when they come into contact with each other. Shouldn't they just repel each other?
[QUOTE=Zombii;21373061]I don't understand why matter and antimatter explode when they come into contact with each other. Shouldn't they just repel each other?[/QUOTE] Positive and negative charges attract eachother. [editline]09:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=concon;21372989]imagine an anti matter asteroid crashing into earth[/QUOTE] It'd be like ONE THOUSAND joules [editline]09:48PM[/editline] No, scratch that. ONE MILLION JOULES
[QUOTE=Neolithic v7;21373107] It'd be like ONE THOUSAND joules [editline]09:48PM[/editline] No, scratch that. ONE MILLION JOULES[/QUOTE] I came. [editline]05:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zombii;21373061]I don't understand why matter and antimatter explode when they come into contact with each other. Shouldn't they just repel each other?[/QUOTE] Because they cancel each other out, same sort of thing would happen if you touched a female.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21372998]Use the E=mc^2 formula. Where m = mass in KG, c = speed of light. E comes out in Joules.[/QUOTE] And c is in meters per second. 299,792,458 m/s
[QUOTE=Zombii;21373061]I don't understand why matter and antimatter explode when they come into contact with each other. Shouldn't they just repel each other?[/QUOTE] When matter and antimatter come into contact with each other they cancel each other out, and since mass is constant in the universe, they are transformed into energy, the explosion is the release and transformation of matter into pure energy.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21372998]Use the E=mc^2 formula. Where m = mass in KG, c = speed of light. E comes out in Joules.[/QUOTE] 1.8 x 1008 J: 1 microgram of antimatter + 1 microgram of matter = 43 kilograms TNT equivalent 1.8 x 1011 J: 1 milligram of antimatter + 1 milligram of matter = 43 tons TNT equivalent 1.8 x 1014 J: 1 gram of antimatter + 1 gram of matter = 43 kilotons 1.8 x 1017 J: 1 kilogram of antimatter + 1 kilogram of matter = 43 megatons 1.8 x 1020 J: 1 metric ton of antimatter + 1 metric ton of matter = 43 gigatons
I wonder how much energy a hydrogen atom and anti hydrogen atom will make, someone figure it out.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;21373209] 1.8 x 1014 J: 1 kilogram of antimatter + 1 kilogram of matter = 43 megatons [/QUOTE] That's the equivalent of 43 H-Bombs or nearly 2 of the US's strategic nuclear warheads (25Mt theoretical yield)
[quote=rathat48;21373247]i wonder how much energy a hydrogen atom and anti hydrogen atom will make, someone figure it out.[/quote] 3.00655462 × 10^-10 Joules
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;21373262]That's the equivalent of 43 nuclear warheads.[/QUOTE] That's why I say nukes are smalltime
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This thread has made me smarter.
Wow, Dan Brown was actually accurate. I knew antimatter existed and was as explosive as it said in the book, but it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;21370071] There are clouds of naturally-ocurring Anti-Hydrogen, antimatter asteroids and probably Antimatter stars and solar systems. But finding them is not going to happen any time soon.[/QUOTE] Antimatter asteroids? What? No.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;21370071] Somehow, there's more matter than amat. Right now it's one of the enigmas of physics. [/QUOTE] This is wrong- there's entire galaxies of antimatter. [editline]10:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Iced_tea92;21373397]Antimatter asteroids? What? No.[/QUOTE] No, he's right- they're just nowhere near us since that which WAS near us has eradicated. You know, black holes and quesars produce quite a lot of antimatter too (the gravity separating near-eradication particles and all) [editline]10:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hiccuper;21373370]Wow, Dan Brown was actually accurate. I knew antimatter existed and was as explosive as it said in the book, but it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah. It's a 100% matter-to-energy conversion. [editline]10:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Saza;21372746]How big is the resulting explosion per gram of Antimatter?[/QUOTE] It depends on how tightly packed the antimatter and matter in the reaction are, but probably FUCKING ENORMOUS.
[QUOTE=ffffff-;21370353]Like CERN will have a FOR RENT sign in the ground outside the lobby. Also about the amat space travel part. I've heard stuff about using solar flares (or something produced by the sun at the very least) to sort of launch a spacecraft to the stars, riding it like a surfer on a wave. Is that feasible or just wishful thinking?[/QUOTE] Wishful thinking, it works, it just sucks dick Anti matter is what we need.
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