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[QUOTE=Novistador;18785845]Definition of "Liberals" from the Ayn Rand Lexicon and the definition of conservatives aswell so understand the above statment isnt pro conservative. along with a statement on both for those curious scholarly types out there.[/QUOTE] uhhhh... The Ayn Rand Lexicon is the last fucking source for knowledge I would use.

[QUOTE=Novistador;18785845]blithering nonsense[/QUOTE] Ayn Rand is as pro-conservative biased as Rush Limbaugh, and about equally hypocritical and megalomaniacal.

diCK GRENADE

[QUOTE=KestasLT;18784810]Liberalist logic is flawed Not every man and women are born equal, some are born with a lower mental capacity (retardation) Some are born gay (not unless being homosexual is influenced, and people become gay instead of being born)[/QUOTE] and you were born a bad troll You can't make him into a good troll you fucking liberals, he was born that way.

Political correctness is not inherently 'Liberal', but it is one of the greatest deniers of the freedom of expression. I'm sorry, but changing Christmas to Winterval because it offends Muslims is bullshit. When you come to a country that has a certain culture, you have no right to go and change it for your own purposes. Also IF the majority of Muslim refugees who don't like wearing the burka, why don't they just take it off when they live in a country like England or France... I mean who wouldn't want certain levels of freedom? Correct me If I'm wrong, but I expect that anybody who is under a veil like that or restricted and then moves to a country that has most freedoms, the person would quite quickly change outfits and rejoice in their freedom. Now I understand certain clothes like the burqa have a certain culture behind them and some practical uses (sand+wind=no no) Also free-markets are basically the reason for why the world works... And lastly; Certain things to an extent are offensive and should not be used like 'nigger'. However, saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas is bullshit, you shouldn't have to change your beliefs, culture and tradition just so someone isn't offended, unless it is inherently rascist, sexist or otherwise, but seriously christmas?WHO THE FUCK IS OFFENDED BY CHRISTMAS

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786168]Political correctness is not inherently 'Liberal', but it is one of the greatest deniers of the freedom of expression. I'm sorry, but changing Christmas to Winterval because it offends Muslims is bullshit. And lastly; Certain things to an extent are offensive and should not be used like 'nigger'. However, saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas is bullshit, you shouldn't have to change your beliefs, culture and tradition just so someone isn't offended. WHO THE FUCK IS OFFENDED BY CHRISTMAS[/QUOTE] Non-Christian employees whose bosses used to force them to say it to customers. If I am walking into your store to buy a TV I don't wan to hear one of your dumbass employees wish me a "Merry Religious Holiday" no matter what religion it is. [editline]09:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18786168]Also free-markets are basically the reason for why the world works...[/QUOTE] Yup. The planet didn't exist before free markets came into being. This is how we know that evolution is bullshit and Satan put the dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786168]Political correctness is not inherently 'Liberal', but it is one of the greatest deniers of the freedom of expression. I'm sorry, but changing Christmas to Winterval because it offends Muslims is bullshit.[/quote] Yes, because one country represents the left as a whole, right? As I said before, Political correctness, although bad, is nothing compared to social engineering, which one of the two main points of Conservatism. Political correctness is not in anyway liberal. But in all honesty, there needs to be a slight amount of PC in order for societies to stay progressive. And in all honesty, it's not that bad. [quote]When you come to a country that has a certain culture, you have no right to go and change it for your own purposes.[/quote] you mean how America is not one culture? [quote]Also IF the majority of Muslim refugees who don't like wearing the burka, why don't they just take it off when they live in a country like England or France...[/quote] I have to agree simply because, as a studier of Islam, the Burka is NOT part of Islam. [quote]I mean who wouldn't want certain levels of freedom? Correct me If I'm wrong, but I expect that anybody who is under a veil like that or restricted and then moves to a country that has most freedoms, the person would quite quickly change outfits and rejoice in their freedom. Now I understand certain clothes like the burqa have a certain culture behind them and some practical uses (sand+wind=no no)[/quote] The burqa, being against Islam is restrictive and should be banned. It doesn't respect culture, religion or anything. Now if it was, you would be wrong. [quote]Also free-markets are basically the reason for why the world works..[/quote] There really isn't a free market, not since the great Depression. And even then, it went under when Teddy was in office. for the best I may add. And Capitalism is a system, although it makes the world work, not in a good way. Currency is slavery. [quote]And lastly; Certain things to an extent are offensive and should not be used like 'nigger'. However, saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas is bullshit, you shouldn't have to change your beliefs, culture and tradition just so someone isn't offended. WHO THE FUCK IS OFFENDED BY CHRISTMAS[/QUOTE] Well Christmas is a Christian holiday. Being a jew myself, Jesus is not in our culture.

[QUOTE=Doozle;18780452]Liberal fo' life[/QUOTE] fuckin' up everything since 2001

I'd rather a liberal wag his finger at me for saying happy Hanukkah instead of happy holidays, then a conservative cop bust down my door, beat me senseless and have a snarling guard dog rip my nuts because I have a joint. [editline]10:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Karbine;18786361]fuckin' up everything since 2001[/QUOTE] Liberals did 9/11 [editline]10:14PM[/editline] Jerry Falwell told me

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786168]Political correctness is not inherently 'Liberal', but it is one of the greatest deniers of the freedom of expression. I'm sorry, but changing Christmas to Winterval because it offends Muslims is bullshit. [/QUOTE] winterval was a series of two events, in 1998 and 1999 in the city of birmingham. [b]THAT'S IT[/b] It was a single, isolated incident. No one tried to change christmas. That's what all of this crap you people complain about is. It's all tiny, anecdotal, isolated incidents. [b]NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS[/b] Stop acting like someone is. [QUOTE=Earthen;18786168]WHO THE FUCK IS OFFENDED BY CHRISTMAS[/QUOTE] No one is. No one is offended by christmas. All of this happy holidays stuff is just people saying "hey, other people have different holidays this time of year too. Let's not make them feel left out." It's not a matter of people being offended, it's just some people trying to include others.

I find the mindless bashing of both parties in this thread disgusting. People who think differently than you are not idiots. They interpret the world, and in this case government's role in it, in a different way than you. Both political parties have the same general interest: to make people as happy as possible and to run the government as smoothly as possible. Both maintain the idea of popular sovereignty: majority rule and minority rights. They only disagree on the means. Neither party is evil. Neither party is better than the other. There is only the party you agree with more. When you attack someone because of their political party, no matter which side you are on, you humiliate yourself and show how intolerant of other people's beliefs you are. You are not the center of the universe. You are not always right. Your party is not the ultimate moral authority. Think for yourself. You are not the party you choose to associate with. This is the problem with government today. People in general are too focused and distracted by arbitrary political parties, and are distracted from what actually matters, that you are choosing someone to represent you in your government. Political parties do nothing but pidgeonhole people into one party or the other, with little room for compromise. In congress, reps and senators are coerced into vote with their party's opinion, not that of their constituents. *steps off soapbox*

[QUOTE=MrAltaco;18786428]I find the mindless bashing of both parties in this thread disgusting. People who think differently than you are not idiots. They interpret the world, and in this case government's role in it, in a different way than you. Both political parties have the same general interest: to make people as happy as possible and to run the government as smoothly as possible. Both maintain the idea of popular sovereignty: majority rule and minority rights. They only disagree on the means. Neither party is evil, they approach government in different ways. When you attack someone because of their political party, no matter which side you are on, you humiliate yourself and show how intolerant of other people's beliefs you are. You are not the center of the universe. You are not always right. Your party is not the ultimate moral authority. Think for yourself. You are not the party you choose to associate with. This is the problem with government today. People in general are too focused and distracted by arbitrary political parties, and are distracted from what actually matters, that you are choosing someone to represent you in your government. Political parties do nothing but pidgeonhole people into one party or the other, with little room for compromise. In congress, reps and senators are coerced into vote with their party's opinion, not that of their constituents. *steps off soapbox*[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.geer.us/Blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Liberals-vs-Conservatives3.jpg[/img] you know, I'm just not feeling the love with the conservatives

[QUOTE=MrAltaco;18786428] Neither party is evil, they approach government in different ways.[/QUOTE] yes, but one one of them is basically a platform for the wealthy to, using totally legal political means, prevent any sort of societal reform that may in any way hinder or prevent them from continuing to fill their coffers by mobilizing a large number of americans with hot-button issues and fear of social change and tying their financial interests to those hot-button issues ~~can u guess which one?~~

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18786514]yes, but one one of them is basically a platform for the wealthy to, using totally legal means, prevent any sort of societal reform that may in any way hinder or prevent them from continuing to fill their coffers. ~~can u guess which one?~~[/QUOTE] communists

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18786514]yes, but one one of them is basically a platform for the wealthy to, using totally legal political means, prevent any sort of societal reform that may in any way hinder or prevent them from continuing to fill their coffers by mobilizing a large number of americans with hot-button issues and fear of social change and tying their financial interests to those hot-button issues ~~can u guess which one?~~[/QUOTE] If you blank out the "wealthy" part, then you could literally be describing [I]any[/I] political affiliation in the history of the world.

[QUOTE=Cathbadh;18786584]If you blank out the "wealthy" part, then you could literally be describing [I]any[/I] political affiliation in the history of the world.[/QUOTE] good point

And my attempt at reason fails.

ITT: Pretentious political [b]opinions[/b]

American conservativism is basically the wealthy getting the poor to vote in their favor by echoing their religious, socially conservative beliefs, and, having gained their trust, convincing them that the lassiez-faire system that allows the superrich to stay superrich is in the best interest of everyone. [editline]02:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Cathbadh;18786584]If you blank out the "wealthy" part, then you could literally be describing [I]any[/I] political affiliation in the history of the world.[/QUOTE] but the "wealthy" part is sort of the really important part of that statement

[QUOTE=Sparkwire;18780434]Forces? You don't even have to say the damn thing.[/QUOTE] I've seen kids get in shit with administration at my school for staying seated during the Pledge.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18786667] but the "wealthy" part is sort of the really important part of that statement[/QUOTE] Ok, so your qualifying post could be boiled down to: "Which party has more wealthy members." Somehow, that lacks the insidiousness.

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18786084]Ayn Rand is as pro-conservative biased as Rush Limbaugh, and about equally hypocritical and megalomaniacal.[/QUOTE] If you think Ayn Rand or Objectivism is conservative then you have an incredibly small understanding of the philosophy. The most significant similarity Objectivists and conservatives have is that they both object to the money of the competent being forceably taken so that it might be used to support the incompetent. Of course the main difference being that Objectivists don't automatically place people into the incompetent category based on race, religion, or sexual preference(though Rand herself thought being gay was gross). Basically conservative without the arbitrary veneration of tradition and upholding of the status quo.

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18786323]Non-Christian employees whose bosses used to force them to say it to customers. If I am walking into your store to buy a TV I don't wan to hear one of your dumbass employees wish me a "Merry Religious Holiday" no matter what religion it is. [editline]09:11PM[/editline] Yup. The planet didn't exist before free markets came into being. This is how we know that evolution is bullshit and Satan put the dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us.[/QUOTE] Congratulations on being a decrepit loser, you're like that old lady in England who got a nurse fired because the nurse asked if it was okay if the nurse said a prayer. I'm not religious, but if someone cares enough to put their time into my wellbeing no matter it spiritual or medical, then fine its a genuinely nice thing to do. So you think everything should be atheist and just throw tradition out the window? What i meant by working, I mean that the world would not advance very quickly under a fully working communist economy

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786776]Congratulations on being a decrepit loser, you're like that old lady in England who got a nurse fired because the nurse asked if it was okay if the nurse said a prayer. I'm not religious, but if someone cares enough to put their time into my wellbeing no matter it spiritual or medical, then fine its a genuinely nice thing to do. What i meant by working, I mean that the world would not advance very quickly under a fully working communist economy[/QUOTE] political correctness sucks. we know. That's why Lenin's NEP worked, right? and commune's also work.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18786352]Yes, because one country represents the left as a whole, right? As I said before, Political correctness, although bad, is nothing compared to social engineering, which one of the two main points of Conservatism. Political correctness is not in anyway liberal. But in all honesty, there needs to be a slight amount of PC in order for societies to stay progressive. And in all honesty, it's not that bad. you mean how America is not one culture? I have to agree simply because, as a studier of Islam, the Burka is NOT part of Islam. The burqa, being against Islam is restrictive and should be banned. It doesn't respect culture, religion or anything. Now if it was, you would be wrong. There really isn't a free market, not since the great Depression. And even then, it went under when Teddy was in office. for the best I may add. And Capitalism is a system, although it makes the world work, not in a good way. Currency is slavery. Well Christmas is a Christian holiday. Being a jew myself, Jesus is not in our culture.[/QUOTE] However, are you offended by somebody saying Merry Christmas to you? If you were German or something, your culture is traditionally Christian, thus merry christmas is part of the culture...

no [editline]10:46PM[/editline] there are Jewish German's you know

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18786802]political correctness sucks. we know. That's why Lenin's NEP worked, right? and commune's also work.[/QUOTE] Communism is pathetic, as is fascism I don't want to just have my piece of cake and thats it, I want to make it larger, in a Communist society I'm not allowed to and thus I have to just stay as it is. Lenin's NEP worked primarily because it allowed for private ownership, proof that capitalism is a partially working system, better than Communism While I agree that the idea that everyone is equal is true, people should not be forced to have their private property taken from them and given to someone undeserving of what you worked for! [editline]10:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18786898]no [editline]10:46PM[/editline] there are Jewish German's you know[/QUOTE] Fine, sorry The MAJORITY of Germans traditionally have been Christian, thus the MAJORITY of the culture when it comes to holidays is Christian

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786919]Communism is pathetic, as is fascism I don't want to just have my piece of cake and thats it, I want to make it larger, in a Communist society I'm not allowed to and thus I have to just stay as it is. Lenin's NEP worked primarily because it allowed for private ownership, proof that capitalism is a partially working system, better than Communism While I agree that the idea that everyone is equal is true, people should not be forced to have their private property taken from them and given to someone undeserving of what you worked for![/QUOTE] The idea is that the working classes do all the work, and get paid the least and have the least benefits. Like a CEO of a car company isn't the making cars. Why does he get paid millions when your workers are making less than 100 grand? Because he owns the business, doesn't mean he deserves what he makes.

[QUOTE=Jon-Ace;18786651]ITT: Pretentious political [b]opinions[/b][/QUOTE] political opinions? I though we were sharing our political oranges. Gee, thanks for your post, you've really helped me out with that little misunderstanding. [editline]02:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18786919]Communism is pathetic, as is fascism I don't want to just have my piece of cake and thats it, I want to make it larger, in a Communist society I'm not allowed to and thus I have to just stay as it is.[/QUOTE] Actually, in a genuinely communist society, you have the entire cake. You and everyone else in the society shares the entire cake, rather than individuals each having their own piece. That's the main principal of communism: communal ownership. Communal, communism, communal, communism. They sound the same for a reason. You don't really seem to know what you're talking about. [editline]02:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18786919] Fine, sorry The MAJORITY of Germans traditionally have been Christian, thus the MAJORITY of the culture when it comes to holidays is Christian[/QUOTE] but culture isn't a "majority take all" thing, and it isn't set in stone either. If some people wanna say happy holidays instead of merry christmas, they can go ahead. I don't see why you have to complain your ass off about it. [editline]02:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Wayword;18786955]The idea is that the working classes do all the work, and get paid the least and have the least benefits. Like a CEO of a car company isn't the making cars. Why does he get paid millions when your workers are making less than 100 grand? Because he owns the business, doesn't mean he deserves what he makes.[/QUOTE] the issue is that that business owner, because of all the money he makes, has disproportional representation in our government. He is more powerful because of his money because he is able to lobby and provide financial incentives for politicians, superseding the whole "one man, one vote" thing.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18786919]Communism is pathetic, as is fascism I don't want to just have my piece of cake and thats it, I want to make it larger, in a Communist society I'm not allowed to and thus I have to just stay as it is. Lenin's NEP worked primarily because it allowed for private ownership, proof that capitalism is a partially working system, better than Communism While I agree that the idea that everyone is equal is true, people should not be forced to have their private property taken from them and given to someone undeserving of what you worked for! [editline]10:48PM[/editline] Fine, sorry The MAJORITY of Germans traditionally have been Christian, thus the MAJORITY of the culture when it comes to holidays is Christian[/QUOTE] And you don't think in order to increase that cake, you have to shoot a few people? You mean to tell me the 10% of American's work harder then the 90% of the populace? you are not only naive, you're despicable.