[QUOTE=Ldesu;26545757]lol it's not like it's a big heat cannon
dad got one in the kia sportage he had a while back and every day in the winter when you first sat in the car in the morning it was like it had been idling for 20 minutes already and the windows were always 100% snow free. That's why I wanted one[/QUOTE]
Word of advice for warming the car up in the cold mornings. Don't leave it idling for 20 minutes, the amount of damage you're doing is unbelievable. We all know that 80% of engine wear occurs when the engine is first started? Most cars use 10w40 engine oil which takes a few miles of normal driving to get up to temperature and start protecting the engine as it should, probably about 10 minutes of driving. If you leave your car idling it will take considerably longer to get up to operating temperature, meaning your engine is running for longer without full protection from your engine oil and is causing much more engine wear than necessary.
The best way to properly warm your engine up is to start it, idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil and then drive away, keeping the revs under 3000 until the engine is up to temperature and don't judge engine temperature by your coolant's temperature, water is less dense and warms up faster than oil, give it another 5 minutes after your coolant is indicated to be at normal temp and then your engine will be at it's proper operating temperature and you can put your foot down without worrying.
[QUOTE=joe588;26543818]... you look like a twat driving around with your foglights on when it's not foggy whatever you drive.[/QUOTE]
Where I live people either use their fog lights as DRLs or have them on all the time. I don't see why you wound't have them on. What would the disadvantages be?
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26546281]Word of advice for warming the car up in the cold mornings. Don't leave it idling for 20 minutes, the amount of damage you're doing is unbelievable. We all know that 80% of engine wear occurs when the engine is first started? Most cars use 10w40 engine oil which takes a few miles of normal driving to get up to temperature and start protecting the engine as it should, probably about 10 minutes of driving. If you leave your car idling it will take considerably longer to get up to operating temperature, meaning your engine is running for longer without full protection from your engine oil and is causing much more engine wear than necessary.
The best way to properly warm your engine up is to start it, idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil and then drive away, keeping the revs under 3000 until the engine is up to temperature and don't judge engine temperature by your coolant's temperature, water is less dense and warms up faster than oil, give it another 5 minutes after your coolant is indicated to be at normal temp and then your engine will be at it's proper operating temperature and you can put your foot down without worrying.[/QUOTE]
What about 5w-20? I idle my car before school every morning in the winter and generally keep the revs low unless I'm late. I could tell you the oil temperature on the EVIC if that would be important.
Edit: I also use all synthetic in the winter.
[QUOTE=Diagger;26546341]Where I live people either use their fog lights as DRLs or have them on all the time. I don't see why you wound't have them on. What would the disadvantages be?[/QUOTE]
They dazzle drivers heading in the opposite direction, taking their attention away from what's in front of them and could cause a crash.
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[QUOTE=Diagger;26546341]Where I live people either use their fog lights as DRLs or have them on all the time. I don't see why you wound't have them on. What would the disadvantages be?
What about 5w-20? I idle my car before school every morning in the winter and generally keep the revs low unless I'm late. I could tell you the oil temperature on the EVIC if that would be important.
Edit: I also use all synthetic in the winter.[/QUOTE]
That's what I use, it's less viscous and flows more freely through the engine at lower temps meaning it's doing its job faster and is generally more recommended for winter use. As I said though, to keep engine wear to a minimum you want to warm the engine up as quick as possible, this is best done by driving the car but not stressing the engine.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26546281]Word of advice for warming the car up in the cold mornings. Don't leave it idling for 20 minutes, the amount of damage you're doing is unbelievable. We all know that 80% of engine wear occurs when the engine is first started? Most cars use 10w40 engine oil which takes a few miles of normal driving to get up to temperature and start protecting the engine as it should, probably about 10 minutes of driving. If you leave your car idling it will take considerably longer to get up to operating temperature, meaning your engine is running for longer without full protection from your engine oil and is causing much more engine wear than necessary.
The best way to properly warm your engine up is to start it, idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil and then drive away, keeping the revs under 3000 until the engine is up to temperature and don't judge engine temperature by your coolant's temperature, water is less dense and warms up faster than oil, give it another 5 minutes after your coolant is indicated to be at normal temp and then your engine will be at it's proper operating temperature and you can put your foot down without worrying.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it was idling for 20 minutes every time
it was always as warm at first as if it [B]had been[/B] idling for 20 minutes
if it wasn't more efficient than idling I'd just let it idle until it was warm all the time. I know this, it's a reason I want engine heater and coupé heater
[QUOTE=joe588;26543818]... you look like a twat driving around with your foglights on when it's not foggy whatever you drive.[/QUOTE]
hahaha
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
and then the gt4 kid was full of himself, sucks because i liked your car
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26543865]Agreed, all it does is piss everyone else on the road off by dazzling. When you see someone driving with their fogs on during the day it's normally a spott, chavvy little prick. I thought it was a Lamborghini coming down the road when I saw that car with his sidelights on and fogs lights, had me fooled!
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
If I were going to spend money on mods I'd either want power or style, brighter fog lights and a tacky gear knob add neither.[/QUOTE]
they're AIMED projector foglights by the way, the light pattern doesn't rise higher then 1ft off the ground
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26543865]If I were going to spend money on mods I'd either want power or style, brighter fog lights and a tacky gear knob add neither.[/QUOTE]
it was a kit, shortshifter, 3 bushings, and a knob, i was sick of rowing through pudding after coming off of what was apparently one of the best shifters in existence (s2k), the fact that it's delrin and not leather keeps it cool to the touch in the florida weather
if you ever have a chance to feel a stock wrx shifter you'd know what I mean, it feels like a truck
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Diagger;26546341]Where I live people either use their fog lights as DRLs or have them on all the time. I don't see why you wound't have them on. What would the disadvantages be?[/QUOTE]
he seems to think that a cell phone camera is a great representation of the amount of glare a pair of eyes would receive, the reason i run with my fogs on is because I disabled my DRL's which were just dimmed headlights that you couldn't even see anyways
My friend is looking for his first car, he has been rather interesting in the Ford Puma 1.7 turbo
Is that a good starter car?
[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/29kxfdu.jpg[/IMG]
rendering my drive to school video
its kinda long
Hey guys, 2001 Volvo C70 Convertible with an HPT (High Pressure Turbo), 2001 Passport (Used to be my brothers, just sits in a parking lot with flat tires), or an 03 Accord EX v6.
c70 silly
[QUOTE=Eddie;26548148]My friend is looking for his first car, he has been rather interesting in the Ford Puma 1.7 turbo
Is that a good starter car?
[img_thumb]http://i51.tinypic.com/29kxfdu.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Yea they are pretty good cars for a first car to be fair. They don't have loads of power but enough to have some fun and you can throw them into the corners with confidence, it will be a good buy and you can pick them up pretty cheap these days.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ8pTeF2GdA[/media]
lol
im never rendering a video this long EVER AGAIN
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
wow that quality is terrible
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;26549052]Hey guys, 2001 Volvo C70 Convertible with an HPT (High Pressure Turbo), 2001 Passport (Used to be my brothers, just sits in a parking lot with flat tires), or an 03 Accord EX v6.[/QUOTE]
Personally i think volvo is for tossers. But on those three choices even I would choose the volvo
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26543865]Agreed, all it does is piss everyone else on the road off by dazzling. When you see someone driving with their fogs on during the day it's normally a spott, chavvy little prick. I thought it was a Lamborghini coming down the road when I saw that car with his sidelights on and fogs lights, had me fooled![/QUOTE]
I'm not a chavvy little prick and I drive with my running lights or fogs and low beams during the day. If you honestly think they give that much of a distraction then you're crazy. Not even at night are they a distraction.
And I don't think I've ever seen a Lamborghini with a set of fogs besides the Countach.
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;26546281]Word of advice for warming the car up in the cold mornings. Don't leave it idling for 20 minutes, the amount of damage you're doing is unbelievable. We all know that 80% of engine wear occurs when the engine is first started? Most cars use 10w40 engine oil which takes a few miles of normal driving to get up to temperature and start protecting the engine as it should, probably about 10 minutes of driving. If you leave your car idling it will take considerably longer to get up to operating temperature, meaning your engine is running for longer without full protection from your engine oil and is causing much more engine wear than necessary.
The best way to properly warm your engine up is to start it, idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil and then drive away, keeping the revs under 3000 until the engine is up to temperature and don't judge engine temperature by your coolant's temperature, water is less dense and warms up faster than oil, give it another 5 minutes after your coolant is indicated to be at normal temp and then your engine will be at it's proper operating temperature and you can put your foot down without worrying.[/QUOTE]
I have to let mine idle before I leave. If I don't there's a noticeable amount of resistance when you hit the throttle. When it's cold out that is.
DOC.H : [media]http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy237/Mpntball2012/get-attachment-1.jpg[/media]
No we aren't retards when it comes to parking, snow was covering the lot this morning.
OOOhhhh thats nice. I like the tires. I want mine that color.
looks like a murderers vehicle
[QUOTE=4NGRY MUFF1N;26550110]Personally i think volvo is for tossers. But on those three choices even I would choose the volvo[/QUOTE]
its the quickest, best handling, probably nicest interior, and that motor has loads of potential im sure
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while on the topic of cold weather starts, i have an oil pressure gauge and it lets me know once the oil is up to running temp
when the oil is cold I run about 90-100psi at idle, once it warms up it drops to about 30psi, so i just take it easy until then, i never wait
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also i made a video but it was 30min of gridlock traffic so i deleted it
[editline]7th December 2010[/editline]
also whoever said "idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil" is silly, your oil filters have an anti-drainback valve for a reason, it's always primed
[QUOTE=edberg;26553164]
also whoever said "idle for 10-15 to give the oil pumps time to circulate the oil" is silly, your oil filters have an anti-drainback valve for a reason, it's always primed[/QUOTE]
I idle for 10 mins to get some temperature in the car
:buddy:
[QUOTE=ghostfais;26552766]looks like a murderers vehicle[/QUOTE]
You should see the thing in real life.
lol ITT kids put synthetic oil in their originally non synthenic cars
BTW ed's WRX is still faster than your prelude even with the 'ricer' lights and shiftknob, u mad brah?
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;26554007]lol ITT kids put synthetic oil in their originally non synthenic cars
BTW ed's WRX is still faster than your prelude even with the 'ricer' lights and shiftknob, u mad brah?[/QUOTE]
I would imagine it would remain faster, as the things he added do not increase speed.
[QUOTE=reardon_e12;26554049]I would imagine it would remain faster, as the things he added do not increase speed.[/QUOTE]
yeah but they don't make it any slower or worse
it's a shift knob lol wtf is your guys' problem
oh and OMG FOGLIGHTS that's soooo jdm poser ricer style
[editline]8th December 2010[/editline]
foglights look badass especially on a nice car and when they're aimed right
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;26554964]yeah but they don't make it any slower or worse
it's a shift knob lol wtf is your guys' problem
oh and OMG FOGLIGHTS that's soooo jdm poser ricer style
[editline]8th December 2010[/editline]
foglights look badass especially on a nice car and when they're aimed right[/QUOTE]
And surprisingly they help in the fog.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;26554964]yeah but they don't make it any slower or worse
it's a shift knob lol wtf is your guys' problem
oh and OMG FOGLIGHTS that's soooo jdm poser ricer style
[editline]8th December 2010[/editline]
foglights look badass especially on a nice car and when they're aimed right[/QUOTE]
yous herpin and derpin pretty hard
If you can shift faster, the car will be faster. A short shifter makes shifting faster.
[QUOTE=ghostfais;26552766]looks like a murderers vehicle[/QUOTE]
Im ok with that.
[QUOTE=WhackChack;26545472]Speaking of that light thing, I saw the wierdest thing today. Looked like a Mazda driving past me or something. Strange thing was, all of the indicators were lit up yellow, and they didn't flash at all. Granted, it was foggy, but I don't think that's legal.[/QUOTE]
Parking lights?
[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;26555757]yous herpin and derpin pretty hard
If you can shift faster, the car will be faster. A short shifter makes shifting faster.[/QUOTE]
did I at all say it won`t make it faster
did you not understand, I was talking in his favour it`s called sarcasm, I know the short shifter is better and I like the fog lights what I said was aimed at whoever was saying how it`s useless and doesn`t affect performance
[QUOTE=reardon_e12;26554049]I would imagine it would remain faster, as the things he added do not increase speed.[/QUOTE]
no but they add to driver comfort especially on my 1hr daily commute, seriously the shifter is that bad
and the lights were free so suck it
your sarcasm detector is broken Apoc, yous the one who`s herpin and derpin
also im trying [i]not[/i] to say x's is better then y's car for the sake of not fagging up the thread
unless the guy is a REAL douche
Eh the shifter is.... a bit odd. but the lights look fine to me.
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