I think that you shouldn't shelter kids from sex (they'll just get more interested about it and you can't stop them from finding porn these days) but you should definitely expand upon that excuse of sex-ed they have in schools right now.
The only sex-ed we had was watching a movie about purely biological side of sex, that nobody could actually relate to, and showing us a picture of a generic condom and tell "Use this!".
Nobody told how how exactly do you "use" them or if there are any differences between types of condoms or if there are any alternative birth control. Because of that, I personally gained a massive hatred for condoms because no one explained to me that there are actually different sizes of condoms and they're not supposed to feel like a goddamn catsuit on your dick.
Also, the society should stop making a big deal of sex and even secondary and primary sexual characteristics on TV and in movies. It doesn't do any harm, quite opposite actually.
Well, if you shelter kids from sex forever, there will be a day they'll find it out by themselves, and if theyre not ready for that, they wont be able to use proper protection and problem will be on its way. (Underaged pregnancy, STDs, etc.), but there should be age restrictions, I'm pretty sure an eight-year-old wouldn't know better than to laugh the whole period of the sex-ed class anyways.
Sheltering is not protecting, proper education is, afterall, sex is great and should be enjoyed- with proper protection.
sex is the ultimate expression of intimacy with someone and to an extent i can understand a parent's unwillingness to educate their child about such a mature subject, but the fact is that kids are going to find out about sex one way or the other. the best thing we can do is be open about it and educate them as well as we can about safe sex.
teens often overestimate their own maturity and will engage in 'adult' behaviors because they feel they're ready for them. they often won't understand why their elders will tell them not to do certain things and might feel that rules like not engaging in sex are arbitrary and there for little more than to limit their freedom. when you tell a kid not to do something and they ask why, it's much better to give a complete response (like educating them on sex, the potential risks, and reasons why it would be better to wait) than just say "because it's bad and i told you so."
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36673381]
The only sex-ed we had was watching a movie about purely biological side of sex, that nobody could actually relate to, and showing us a picture of a generic condom and tell "Use this!".
Nobody told how how exactly do you "use" them or if there are any differences between types of condoms or if there are any alternative birth control.[/QUOTE]
Condoms are pretty simple to use.
[QUOTE=oclictis1;36692405]Condoms are pretty simple to use.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to a 15 years-old teenager who barely knows what sex is.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36700685]Tell that to a 15 years-old teenager who barely knows what sex is.[/QUOTE]
You insert the penis into the woman's vagina and repeadetly thrust (putting it in until the base of your genetals out further up, but not taken out), you will eventually make semen. That semen goes to the woman's ovaries and fertilizes the eggs. This gets her pregnant if you are not sterile, and if her ovaries work. Don't want to get her pregnant? Roll a condom onto your penis so the semen does not go into her to fertilize the egg. Most fifteen year olds shoud not be getting pregnant, so they is why you were instructed to wear them during intercourse. Any more questions?
[QUOTE=oclictis1;36704662]You insert the penis into the woman's vagina and repeadetly thrust (putting it in until the base of your genetals out further up, but not taken out), you will eventually make semen. That semen goes to the woman's ovaries and fertilizes the eggs. This gets her pregnant if you are not sterile, and if her ovaries work. Don't want to get her pregnant? Roll a condom onto your penis so the semen does not go into her to fertilize the egg. Most fifteen year olds shoud not be getting pregnant, so they is why you were instructed to wear them during intercourse. Any more questions?[/QUOTE]
Err...what are you trying to do exactly?
Showing us that you know what sex is? Repeating the sex-ed I had like 8 years ago now? Trying to show how clever you are by stating the obvious?
I'm not following you.
[editline]10th July 2012[/editline]
On second thought, Overv's Rating Script is probably right about the extra chromosome thing.
I think what he's trying to say is that it's almost impossible to "barely know what sex is". Everyone knows what sex is, or at least can know. Naked people touch because it feels good.
And protection is almost as simple to explain.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;36705780]And protection is almost as simple to explain.[/QUOTE]
As I had to learn from my experience and tips from others, protection is much much more complicated than just "put it on and go nuts".
EDIT: Also I think we're derailing the thread.
[QUOTE=Mr Kodiak;36138886]So I pose the question of, Would a open, honest approach to educating pre-pubescent children about sexuality be better? [b]Regardless of age[/b][/QUOTE]
Yes, I think so.
People in our age (and any past age, really) are for some reason completely overblowing sex and the meaning of sex. There's really nothing to it, so we should stop thinking of it as something mature and something dirty / naughty [I](contra innocent)[/I].
There's really no such thing as [I]"innocence"[/I] when it comes to sex, and I think the notion of innocence is harmful to kids and to society as a whole.
[editline]10th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36705836]As I had to learn from my experience and tips from others, protection is much much more complicated than just "put it on and go nuts".
EDIT: Also I think we're derailing the thread.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's why I said "almost". But it can't be harder to explain than how to tie your shoes...
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;36705851]Yes, I think so.
People in our age (and any past age, really) are for some reason completely overblowing sex and the meaning of sex. There's really nothing to it, so we should stop thinking of it as something mature and something dirty / naughty [I](contra innocent)[/I].
There's really no such thing as [I]"innocence"[/I] when it comes to sex, and I think the notion of innocence is harmful to kids and to society as a whole.
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I agree, but I don't thinkg you should say that there's nothing to it. We should just start to accept it as a basic human desire. There's nothing wrong with sex and that's what we should communicate.
We've made tremendeous progress over the last 50 years, let's hope we continue that path.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36704762]Err...what are you trying to do exactly?
Showing us that you know what sex is? Repeating the sex-ed I had like 8 years ago now? Trying to show how clever you are by stating the obvious?
I'm not following you.[/QUOTE]
"Try explaining that to a fifteen year old who barely knows what sex is"
I just did it. I wasnt trying to prove anything, other than the fact that it is not difficult to explain sex.
Sheltering is neglectful parenting.
Knowledge is the best birth control you can prescribe your children.
Not only are the problems within parents sheltering their kids, it's the crap sex ed programs. For me, it was "this is your dick, and those are your balls". It was more like a human anatomy class than anything. I'd have to imagine it was the same thing for the women: "here's your vagina, here's the related organs".
Nobody learns a single thing about sex itself other than things like STDs/STIs, and using a condom. Hell, my school division even went so far as to call it "family life". That's how fucked up it is. Plus, at the beginning of the year, on the registration form, there's even an option to opt out of it, where we come back to sheltering kids.
As stated before, they'll find out one way or another, be it from friends without overprotective parents, or in schools that have an actually decent sex ed program.
Basically I'm just going to tell my kids what their private parts do and they have to use condoms, when they're a decent enough age to understand.
But, they'll probably have figured it out beforehand, because I don't really see the point in sheltering them at all.
[QUOTE=Liem;36148794]It's the sheltering that makes it a big deal, If we stop sheltering Sex doesn't remain a "Big Deal"[/QUOTE]
Exactly! It's just a natural thing that should not be sheltered from children. I'm not saying that they should be allowed to watch porn or anything like that. But simply teach the children the proper names of their body parts and explain to them how babies are made and not tell them that they're from storks:/
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;36761685]Not only are the problems within parents sheltering their kids, it's the crap sex ed programs. For me, it was "this is your dick, and those are your balls". It was more like a human anatomy class than anything. I'd have to imagine it was the same thing for the women: "here's your vagina, here's the related organs".
Nobody learns a single thing about sex itself other than things like STDs/STIs, and using a condom. Hell, my school division even went so far as to call it "family life". That's how fucked up it is. Plus, at the beginning of the year, on the registration form, there's even an option to opt out of it, where we come back to sheltering kids.
As stated before, they'll find out one way or another, be it from friends without overprotective parents, or in schools that have an actually decent sex ed program.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree, my school's sex ed system was also extremely sub-par.
This makes no sense, sooner or later kids are gonna be exposed to sex. To shelter them from it just makes it a bigger impact on them when they learn about, or have sex.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36700685]Tell that to a 15 years-old teenager who barely knows what sex is.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you, but when I lost my virginity I was 15 and had an understanding of how to properly use a condom and how to have safe sex properly.
I think it makes sense to wait until puberty hits.
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