UFOs, why I believe they exist and am not totally crazy. - General

[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23243959]if the government is covering up aliens they're certainly doing a better job at doing it than all their other cover-up jobs[/QUOTE] I'm not saying they're covering it up. Do you people read my statements? They could be, but based on the cases I've given as examples, it seems to me that they don't know jack shit like the rest of us. [quote]Well then please elaborate. You're saying it's not extraterrestrials but it's not our doing either. How does that make sense.[/quote] How does it make sense either way? I don't know what it is, I just believe that it's happening and that it exists, but there's nothing to say it's the government and nothing to say it's aliens. One guy suggested they're living creatures. I think that's crazy as fuck but I don't know. The theory that maybe they're time travelers is picking up alot recently, that could be, hell if I know.

[QUOTE=Sableye;23243975]look, statistically speaking, the vast amount of space has to harbor life.[/QUOTE] look, statistically speaking, the minuscule chance interstellar aliens have of happening on us by chance [img]http://www.eanet.com/kodama/astro/2007/1110b/9-12-1s.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23243667]Ok then I will contribute to your thread with a photo I took on my cellphone while I was out driving back in June. [img]http://www.zilefile.com/files/11852_okamj/derpingufo.jpg[/img] Not a balloon, not a plane, not a helicopter, changed directions and shape and speed, no idea what it was but it was neat.[/QUOTE] It looks like a football...

[QUOTE=Detective P;23244001]I'm not saying they're covering it up. Do you people read my statements? They could be, but based on the cases I've given as examples, it seems to me that they don't know jack shit like the rest of us.[/QUOTE] What are you even saying. It's not extraterrestrial but it's not the government either what. What is your argument here, that UFO's exist? Yeah, a fucking rock could be a UFO, I'm really not following you anymore. So I read your edit, the only sensible explanation I see is time travelers, but that has it's own problems and is a whole new book so to say.

[QUOTE=Heroms;23244034]What are you even saying. It's not extraterrestrial but it's not the government either what. What is your argument here, that UFO's exist? Yeah, a fucking rock could be a UFO, I'm really not following you anymore.[/QUOTE] I just responded to this, in a post above. Like I said above, I believe something unexplained and unconventional is happening- the UFO phenomena, but to what is the cause I have no clue, and I'm not convinced that the government or anyone else does either.

[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23244012]look, statistically speaking, the minuscule chance interstellar aliens have of happening on us by chance [img_thumb]http://www.eanet.com/kodama/astro/2007/1110b/9-12-1s.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] By analyzing your image with high tech FBI equipment I was able to discover the aliens and possibly their homeworld. Note how I rotated the image and then filled in the lines, you can clearly see a defined shape of an aliens head. [img]http://www.zilefile.com/files/11853_dnbv0/9-12-1s.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244061]By analyzing your image with high tech FBI equipment I was able to discover the aliens and possibly their homeworld. Note how I rotated the image and then filled in the lines, you can clearly see a defined shape of an aliens head. [img]http://www.zilefile.com/files/11853_dnbv0/9-12-1s.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] omg!! what i like about this post is that it parodies some of the logic ufo conspiracy theorists use to "prove things" whilst being about as credible as that logic :v:

[QUOTE=ceaajagd;23243708] also your avatar is a star, hammer, and sickle, and your from Michigan but you use the word bloody, a very British term? not saying anything, its just interesting[/QUOTE] Eh, random response here. I tend to use alot of british slang and terms and the like, just me. My avatar is from call of duty, but I do subscribe to a belief in Marxist socialism, though that shouldn't influence anyones opinions on this topic, and yes, I'm from Michigan, a nice state if you can get past the deteriorating cities and joblessness and wacky weather.

Until they make contact, or we have some form of physical evidence beyond sightings and pictures, i'm not gonna bother with it. Thousands of people have also thought they've seen apparitions of Mary, that doesn't make them true.

Holy shit they are real

[QUOTE=Sn1pe;23244110]Holy shit they are real[/QUOTE] Yup I proved it with my extreme image defining skills.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23244109]Until they make contact, or we have some form of physical evidence beyond sightings and pictures, i'm not gonna bother with it. Thousands of people have also thought they've seen apparitions of Mary, that doesn't make them true.[/QUOTE] The point of giving examples is to show that there may be (is in my opinion) some physical evidence. Hence the close encounters of the second kind section of the OP.

[QUOTE=Detective P;23244129]The point of giving examples is to show that there may be (is in my opinion) some physical evidence. Hence the close encounters of the second kind section of the OP.[/QUOTE] Well, definitive evidence. An actual crashed ship, bodies, etc. Like I said, don't really care bout it till then. You could say i'm agnostic about aliens.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23244187]Well, definitive evidence. An actual crashed ship, bodies, etc. Like I said, don't really care bout it till then. You could say i'm agnostic about aliens.[/QUOTE] What about the Roswell crash man they had bodies and everything. See look OMG ALIEN [IMG]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/Roswell0807_468x360.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244218]What about the Roswell crash man they had bodies and everything. See look OMG ALIEN [IMG]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/Roswell0807_468x360.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] You know, you're not really making any points anymore, right? I mean, you're kind of supporting my beliefs in the OP mostly now.

[QUOTE=Detective P;23244249]You know, you're not really making any points anymore, right? I mean, you're kind of supporting my beliefs in the OP mostly now.[/QUOTE] No way man I totally proved its aliens with magical wormholes coming from Zeta Reticuli

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244276]No way man I totally proved its aliens with magical wormholes coming from Zeta Reticuli[/QUOTE] Sure, fuck, that's right. My mistake. UFOs are piloted by nazi zombies from Betelgeuse and are made of cheese mined form the moon.

[QUOTE=Detective P;23244311]Sure, fuck, that's right. My mistake. UFOs are piloted by nazi zombies from Betelgeuse and are made of cheese mined form the moon.[/QUOTE] Whoa man maybe those flying triangles but everyone knows the saucers are flown by the gray aliens and they come from zeta reticuli and they like to take sperm and eggs from people to merge our societies so we can become like them.

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23243453]No need to read it, I read the first couple paragraphs and pretty much figured you would do what all people who have posted this topic do. [/QUOTE] So you chose to be ignorant by not reading the OP then expect to sound credible

[QUOTE=WebOfTrust;23244422]sound credible[/QUOTE] Sound credible? Whoa man I [B][U]AM[/U][/B] credible.

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244436]Sound credible? Whoa man I [B][U]AM[/U][/B] credible.[/QUOTE] Hunterbrute he is amazing and smart like Eisenstein you should listen guys this shits legit

[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23244662]Hunterbrute he is amazing and smart like Eisenstein you should listen guys this shits legit[/QUOTE] Yeah thats right Ive got Gordon Freeman supporting me so you best be listening up cause I know my shit man.

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244677]Yeah thats right Ive got Gordon Freeman supporting me so you best be listening up cause I know my shit man.[/QUOTE] aliens are real, I've seen this shit, I know what I'm talking about crazy shit man

[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23244734]aliens are real, I've seen this shit, I know what I'm talking about crazy shit man[/QUOTE] Yeah man you should really watch out for those interdimensional reptillians they are really bad and can hide as people and shit. David Icke said they have infiltrated our society and shit. See reptillians [IMG]http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/elizabeth-ii-as-reptilian.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23244767]Yeah man you should really watch out for those interdimensional reptillians they are really bad and can hide as people and shit. David Icke said they have infiltrated our society and shit. See reptillians [IMG]http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/elizabeth-ii-as-reptilian.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] holy fuck dude this man speaks the truth I had no idea

[url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo420.htm[/url] This makes me slightly uneasy.

[QUOTE=person11;23245233][url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo420.htm[/url] This makes me slightly uneasy.[/QUOTE] Dont you find it remotely interesting that every single one looks completely different from the others, not only this but if you look through most they look fake. Not just this but if you look at the older images the flying saucers look simple, like a hub cap and a pie dish, but as you move closer to present time they get more and more complex looking, almost as if model designers and hoaxers are learning.

[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;23245354]Dont you find it remotely interesting that every single one looks completely different from the others, not only this but if you look through most they look fake. Not just this but if you look at the older images the flying saucers look simple, like a hub cap and a pie dish, but as you move closer to present time they get more and more complex looking, almost as if model designers and hoaxers are learning.[/QUOTE] Though that IS a good point, the sheer quantity and (apparent) quality of these photographs still makes me uneasy.

[QUOTE=person11;23245406]Though that IS a good point, the sheer quantity and (apparent) quality of these photographs still makes me uneasy.[/QUOTE] the only reason there's so many of these is because there are a lot of people who are extremely mind-numbingly desperate for attention

[QUOTE=person11;23245406]Though that IS a good point, the sheer quantity and (apparent) quality of these photographs still makes me uneasy.[/QUOTE] Here Ill give you 3 examples that really catch my eye as suspicious. Lets start with this one [url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo420.htm[/url] Just from the first image it looks like a plastic model with model paint, going through other images it still looks like a model. There are no lights, the design is utter garbage, it looks like it was cut from wood and plastic and throw together in a shop. This one [url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo9.htm[/url] Looks like a dish with some LEDs thrown on it. I could make better shit in my garage. And this [url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo328.htm[/url] CGI, definitely CGI. The glow, the blur around the model, the way it looks, its 100% CGI Id bet my life on that. And an even better one This one [url]http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo87.htm[/url] :downs: