[QUOTE=Kyle902;21825007]FunFact: Tanks are called tanks because the people who where working on the first tanks where told they where making portable water tanks for Africa.[/QUOTE]
I've always thought that was interesting, but not because of the name, but...if you're working on this large behemoth, are you seriously going to believe it's a water tank for desert warfare when you put gun holes in it and steering gear, haha?
Commenting on the OP, the second has a lot more media attention because there was a clear evil. The first was very confusing while the second had a straight forward plot.
Personally I find the first a lot more interesting, but just giving my input as to why the second has more attention
Movies and games don't sell to the common consumer if they're too confusing for the buyer to follow.
The only WWI movies I can think of are Lawrence of Arabia and Sergeant York while I know so many WWII movies that I wouldn't bother to count.
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;21825686]The only WWI movies I can think of are Lawrence of Arabia and Sergeant York while I know so many WWII movies that I wouldn't bother to count.[/QUOTE]
All Quiet on the Western Front; Flyboys
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Pat4ever
The only WWI movies I can think of are Lawrence of Arabia and Sergeant York while I know so many WWII movies that I wouldn't bother to count.[/quote]
exactly my point
sorry about the quote.
The first world war is so incredibly more fascinating if you go beyond Military channel documentaries about Maxim guns and trench warfare. It's so much more, the political climates, the centuries old empires fighting modern wars against each other, the unbelievable scale of involvement and the fact that it touched every part of the earth from southern Africa to China and to the southern sea. It is slowly becoming the most overlooked pivotal point in human history. As a result of the war Germany lost its Kaiser, Austria was removed as a world power, the Balkans were cast into a darkness which lingers to this day, the middle east is still suffering the effects of the ottoman power vacuum (notably the holy land) and it made Russia into the USSR.
I mean did you kids know that the USA was close to allying with the German Empire in 1916 and that what shifted the balance was a tightening of the British blockade of the north sea to provoke careless action from the German navy in hopes that they would sink US ships by mistake in the Atlantic causing anti German sentiment? Well it worked, the ship was the Lusitania.
There are so many skipped over facts, battles and topics when people are looking into WW1, nobody even bothers mentioning that the Germans tried to get Afghanistan to invade British India or the battles in the pacific between the German Asian fleet and the British and Japanese. So often this war is just filed under, "black and white pictures of people blowing up in holes, move along folks" that it is slowly becoming forgotten.
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[QUOTE=HappyCompy;21811629]As far as I'm concerned, in WWI Britain and France were nearly as dogmatic in their interests as Germany(expansion, and control). Don't forget that these countries had age old rivalries starting with Napoleon.[/QUOTE]
If anything the central powers were the "good guys" of world war one. Russia didn't have to mobilize its army against Austria for taking police action against terrorist groups in the Balkans and France and Britain didn't have to declare war on Germany because they supported the measure. They did it for future security abroad, so they could ensure the safety of their colonial possessions from the Germans.
Britain starved Europe to death by blockading the North sea. And France was more than ready to sacrifice a few million just for Alsace.
WW1 - Interesting and Innovative
WW2 - Pure Badassery
I hope to see a WW1 movie pop out sometime in the future.
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If anything the central powers were the "good guys" of world war one. Russia didn't have to mobilize its army against Austria for taking police action against terrorist groups in the Balkans and France and Britain didn't have to declare war on Germany because they supported the measure. They did it for future security abroad, so they could ensure the safety of their colonial possessions from the Germans.
Britain starved Europe to death by blockading the North sea. And France was more than ready to sacrifice a few million just for Alsace.[/QUOTE]
England declared war on Germany for violating Belgium neutrality.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21826544]England declared war on Germany for violating Belgium neutrality.[/QUOTE]
No that was the convenient excuse they had for initiating the war of future prevention against German colonization of Africa
Why is it that people have a need to talk about WW1 vs WW2?
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21826811]Why is it that people have a need to talk about WW1 vs WW2?[/QUOTE]
They were both major turning points in the history of humanity. Everything today is how it is because of those two conflicts.
Personally, I talk about them because I'm a history major, so technically it's my job to :v:
[QUOTE=Fofilolipop;21811671]When i think WWI, i think mud, death, desiese, barbed wire, gas, blood, gore and rust.
When i think WWII, i think of tactics, technololgy, jews, blitzkrieg and squad combat.[/QUOTE]
Well WWII should make you think of holocaust, gas chambers, death camps, entire cities in ruin, D-Day. It was by far the bloodiest war.
ITT people who think the western front was all of WWI.
WWI (I admittedly think the western front was the most interesting) is more interesting. I do have a large interest in trench warfare, I find the the weapons way cooler than in the second (airships, water cooled machine guns, awesome tanks), the uniforms were cooler, and it's interesting to see how the entire way war was waged was turned around in a matter of four years. Plus it was more important than WWII in determining the course of 20th century history.
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[QUOTE=l33tkill;21826322]I hope to see a WW1 movie pop out sometime in the future.[/QUOTE]
There was one that came out recently actually. I can't remember the name but it was about Australian miners on the western front.
WWI is the independent film with an ambiguous hero and villain, and ending.
WWII is the high budget action film with Max McLanford fighting Dr. Vanschpitzl.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21825714]All Quiet on the Western Front; Flyboys[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Paths of Glory.
The Christmas Truce was pretty cool. Also for Canadians, WWI was basically how our country gained reputation and lead to our own self-determination. We were amazing and skilled fighters. Passchendaele and Ypres were major turning points in the war.
The second world war, obviously.
The reason it started, the findings from when it ended, Hitlers madness, Japans involvement, there was so much crazy shit happening.
[QUOTE=TurbisV2;21827732]The second world war, obviously.
The reason it started, the findings from when it ended, Hitlers madness, Japans involvement, there was so much crazy shit happening.[/QUOTE]
Japan was in World War One as well.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21811748]The First World War is by far more interesting because it's such a pinnacle turning point in history, not just for Europe, but for the whole world.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking more in terms of excitement, like which one would you want to watch a movie about. In terms of history, they basically go hand in hand with each other. You can't learn WWII without understanding WWI, and you have to see WWII once you learn about WWI because it's like the ending to it.
WWII all the way.
[url]http://www.firstpersonobserver.com/world-war-ii-death-toll-tops-50000000000/[/url]
Ww2
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21815973]It would have to be either a Real Time Strategy game, or an FPS on the Eastern Front, because something on the Western Front wouldn't get much attention.
But then again, if the world can produce an American Civil War FPS, I'm sure they can for WWI too.
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Read the whole thread. Get proven wrong.[/QUOTE]
I would love both of them.
World War 1 was sit around with your thumb up your ass until the other guys decided their asses were too sore so they got up and started shooting at you.
World War 2 was hoping to god you have an ass to stick your thumb up after your boat deploys to the beach.
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[QUOTE=Idi Amin;21825932]The first world war is so incredibly more fascinating if you go beyond Military channel documentaries about Maxim guns and trench warfare. It's so much more, the political climates, the centuries old empires fighting modern wars against each other, the unbelievable scale of involvement and the fact that it touched every part of the earth from southern Africa to China and to the southern sea. It is slowly becoming the most overlooked pivotal point in human history. As a result of the war Germany lost its Kaiser, Austria was removed as a world power, the Balkans were cast into a darkness which lingers to this day, the middle east is still suffering the effects of the ottoman power vacuum (notably the holy land) and it made Russia into the USSR.
I mean did you kids know that the USA was close to allying with the German Empire in 1916 and that what shifted the balance was a tightening of the British blockade of the north sea to provoke careless action from the German navy in hopes that they would sink US ships by mistake in the Atlantic causing anti German sentiment? Well it worked, the ship was the Lusitania.
There are so many skipped over facts, battles and topics when people are looking into WW1, nobody even bothers mentioning that the Germans tried to get Afghanistan to invade British India or the battles in the pacific between the German Asian fleet and the British and Japanese. So often this war is just filed under, "black and white pictures of people blowing up in holes, move along folks" that it is slowly becoming forgotten.
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If anything the central powers were the "good guys" of world war one. Russia didn't have to mobilize its army against Austria for taking police action against terrorist groups in the Balkans and France and Britain didn't have to declare war on Germany because they supported the measure. They did it for future security abroad, so they could ensure the safety of their colonial possessions from the Germans.
Britain starved Europe to death by blockading the North sea. And France was more than ready to sacrifice a few million just for Alsace.[/QUOTE]
Politcally I agree, I think WWI was much more interesting in that respect, but it was a lot more people dying because they rotted to death in a soggy trench.
I think WW2 was the more influential war, because it marked the rise of the Soviet Union and United States as world super powers. WW1 was important as well because it set the framework for their rise to power, but WW2 was the immediate cause.
If you look at it, After 2 World Wars and a depression, Western Europe (Britain, France, and Germany most importantly) were completely worn out, and lost most of their power and colonies. WW2 basically was the setup for the Cold War, which lasted another 40 years.
I enjoy reading and learning about WWI simply because I, and most people, know less about it. I wish it was the subject of more movies, games, books, etc. and not so overlooked.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21823394]Not to mention that officers in most if not all armies were officers because of their aristocratic social status, not from their own talent.
But World War I created the events that caused World War II, so couldn't any change that WWII caused be in the end, attributed to WWI?[/QUOTE]
Regardless, you can't blame all the slaughter on bad strategy, they had no idea how to fight the new type of war.
Yes but then you could also say that WW1 was caused partly by the Franco-Prussian war, colonialist clashes, etc...
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;21811503]Any particular reason why both of you like it more?[/QUOTE]
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