• The Gay Chat Thread - E-Relationships Edition
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[QUOTE=mikeyt493;36689195]Why do people who don't drink always say they don't drink in a way to make it seem like they're better than others?[/QUOTE] I don't think I've ever done that, have I?
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36688154]i'm pretty much tired 24/7 due to my low metabolism which is pretty lame doesn't matter how much i sleep, always tired [editline]9th July 2012[/editline] getting up at 9 for work is near impossible lol[/QUOTE] I can fix it, honest.
my sleep schedule is somewhat okay, although recently I just haven't been able to sleep I go to sleep anywhere from midnight to 3 and up at 9 if work or no later than 11 if not (even without alarm clock), and I'm not tired either way. I can say yes I've gotten drunk but that was like maybe once and that was the night my boyfriend broke up with me I got wasted as fuck
[QUOTE=Gar~;36689219]Yeah exactly my thoughts mikey. People act like theres something wrong with a bit of alcohol.[/QUOTE] There's not. If it sounded like that, sorry. But I just know way too many people who go drinking every weekend. And by drinking they mean they'll get wasted.
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;36687501]Use some logic here. Obviously it's not true that distance = similar personalities; I don't think you genuinely think that. Clearly there's people similar to you nearby. Perhaps what you're really getting at is distance = less of a chance of me actually getting to know someone, so more of a chance that I can project a personality onto this internet stranger and then play at having a relationship. Don't get me wrong, coming from London I'm going to have a different perspective on this to someone living in a one horse town in Arkansas, but I've heard this so many times on forums. "Oh, if only everyone on this forum lived in the same town! I'd have so many friends! I'd have a relationship" blah de blah. What's actually happened is you've gotten to know people in a low pressure, low worry environment; you're socialising over the internet rather than face to face so it's easier for socially anxious people to bond. Additionally, forums generally have a nucleus of some sort of interest, for example Facepunch originated around Gmod and then lead onto gaming. So you already are vaguely aware of those interests when you start interacting with people on the forum so it takes you less effort to get to know these people. I used to subscribe to this school of thought. Then I started having a proper social life. Like I said, I'm in London so I mix with tonnes of interesting people every day. I imagine if you lived somewhere rural you might have a point, but the solution isn't to spend your days making friends on the internet, it's to focus on moving away from the boorish country folk and into a happening metropolitan area (something gay people do in general anyway). People are often very different on the internet. There's a mask of anonymity that people can hide behind and so this distorts their behaviour. For example, in real life if we were all hanging out together, I probably would not be anywhere near this abrupt. Occasionally, when trying to reason with people their failure to listen to rational arguments (e.g. "Empirical evidence shows weed is less harmful than booze. Just because you ate a bunch of mooncake that one time you went to Amsterdam and have never drunk more than four beers at a time does not mean your anecdotal evidence trumps the science. Considering you do a science degree, suggesting we should make weed a class A drug based on your one time of getting high and your failure to actually drink that much alcohol is problematic") will wind me up and I might start criticising them a bit, but I don't tend to tear into people as much as I do in the internet. Additionally, people can come across as a lot more intelligent and witty on the internet, because there's a Google bar up there and you can search things and make out that you've read books or watched films that you haven't. You can google jokes and post them here in a pseudo spontaneous manner. You can lie wholesale about your life and if you're good at it, you can convince people you live a life of amazing glamour because you avoid posting about that time you bummed around the house in your undies for two days eating icing with a spoon. You can post suicide threats for attention and not really have to face consequences. Socially awkward people are suddenly not socially awkward because this isn't really socialising; this is more like typing to a chatterbot than interacting with people. You must be aware of all the research into the changing face of social interactions as a result of internet. Baroness Greenfield explains it better than I would: [video=youtube;FE61qIV0zSQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE61qIV0zSQ[/video] [video=youtube;X647P6z6tA4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X647P6z6tA4[/video] To claim that people's internet personas are massively representative of their real life personality is truly naïve. Distance won't stop that, and of course long distance relationships occur over the internet, but getting to know someone over the internet is difficult. It's easy to think you know someone when you don't, imbue them with personality traits they don't have... I mean people do this with people they meet in real life, so it's going to be way worse over the internet. How do you know someone? Some Steam Chats, a bit of Facebook, a tad of Skype, some forum interactions? How is that in any way comparable to getting to know someone in the flesh? You'd miss out on the physicality of a relationship. There's a lot of kids on this forum who are very lonely and engage in e-relationships... I wouldn't say all e-relationships aren't actual relationships but I think a lot of them are pretend. They're interactions like "I love you <3!" and it's sweet, but ultimately these two people probably don't know each other and it gets cloying to hear internet strangers behave like they have something meaningful when in fact they're more in love with the idea of being in love than anyone in particular. Meeting up is different... I think he's more specifically addressing the phenomenon of internet friends falling in love, which is an apt comparison. Romeo is deeply, deeply in love with Rosalind and is starving himself and laying in a deep depression because she doesn't love him. Suddenly, he sees a pretty girl at a party and on the basis of her looks decides he's deeply, deeply in love with her instead. Then they do a bunch of immature things and wind up dead. He wasn't really deeply in love with anyone, he had some shallow infatuations (as evidenced by how rapidly he stopped being in love with Rosalind and how quickly he got in love with Juliet). Juliet has a schoolgirl crush that's blown out of all proportion. A kinder reading would be to say that Romeo and Juliet have a shallow, infantile sort of meaningless love, but like all young people, this shallow emotion is incredibly meaningful at the time. I'm sure everyone can look back at their younger years (NB this obviously doesn't apply to 15 year olds on Facepunch) and be amazed at how stupid they've acted over not very much stuff, but at the time it felt meaningful so it shouldn't be pooh-pooh'ed. I guess internet relationships feel meaningful to the people involved, but I'd argue they generally don't have the same emotional depth as a real relationship and frequently occur between two people who are projecting. [editline]9th July 2012[/editline] When I was 17, I had a friend tell me that he was willing to die for a girl he was in "love" with. My response was "You're 17. You don't have the emotional maturity to say that. I doubt you're actually in love with her." His response was to stop talking to me for six months... turns out the girl wasn't the girl he thought she was and that he was being an idiot. Of course, at the time, he chewed me out because I didn't "understand" the depth of his love and I couldn't comprehend how deeply he felt for her. People are getting annoyed because you're being egregiously in a relationship with TehWhale when you're not really. You've met up with him a couple of times (I think? Maybe once?) and are behaving like someone in a relationship. Not even that, you're behaving in this manner loudly across the thread. I, for example, mentioned in passing I got off at Pride... I did not go into loud detail. I'd say certain people in this thread are being unnecessarily crabby, but they have a point. Certain patterns of behaviour don't really mesh with a discussion forum environment.[/QUOTE] I must admit I have neither the time nor patience at present to counter each of your points. But from an analytical viewpoint it seems to me you enjoy seeming intellectually superior to people, specifically those who are already cut low due to insecurities and emotions.
"I don't have time to argue with you"= I can't argue with you because you're right, but I don't want to admit that so I'll try and make it look like I'm just too good for you Which is massively ironic given what you're accusing splurgy of doing
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;36689953]I must admit I have neither the time nor patience at present to counter each of your points. But from an analytical viewpoint it seems to me you enjoy seeming intellectually superior to people, specifically those who are already cut low due to insecurities and emotions.[/QUOTE] He's just keeping up some intelligence in some discussion. He brings up some good points.
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;36687501] To claim that people's internet personas are massively representative of their real life personality is truly naïve.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean that everyone is acts like they do in the internet as they do in real life, but I've seen irl many people I've met online and they act and talk the same as they type. Of course typing gives a chance to look smarter because you have time, but ultimately if a person is sincere or doesn't troll, they are really acting like they do in real life. If I had said this in real life I would've been interrupted many times, my train of thought would've been lost and I would've fumbled with words, internet is a different world but personalities don't change that much.
I'm bored. Does anybody have suggestion what I could do?
Play games, Go out, Wank, Browse internets, TV, Films, Blether, Eat, Drink, Read and so on.
[QUOTE=DigitalySane;36691046]Play games, Go out, Wank, Browse internets, TV, Films, Blether, Eat, Drink, Read and so on.[/QUOTE] All my games I have are boring to me (I really want Assassin's Creed 2). Going out... alone is meh, and it's 8pm. Wank... I did that 2 times todayand willdo that again later. Nothing good on the TV. No interesting films. Browsing internet is boring too. The interesting FP threads are slow today.
[QUOTE=DatWut?;36691081]All my games I have are boring to me (I really want Assassin's Creed 2). Going out... alone is meh, and it's 8pm. Wank... I did that 2 times todayand willdo that again later. Nothing good on the TV. No interesting films. Browsing internet is boring too. The interesting FP threads are slow today.[/QUOTE] Do this: [video=youtube;ZLd9MZYQwy0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLd9MZYQwy0[/video]
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;36690489]"I don't have time to argue with you"= I can't argue with you because you're right, but I don't want to admit that so I'll try and make it look like I'm just too good for you Which is massively ironic given what you're accusing splurgy of doing[/QUOTE] Actually it means I'm at work right now and I literally don't have the time. I'll come up with a response for my reasoning later.
So I just returned from playing Worms: Reloaded with a friend of mine, sure was fun. But I'm still pissed that the guy I wanted to hang around with today didn't answer any of my phone calls.
Welp I looked in the mirror after my shower just then and realised I have bad skin :(
Pictures please? :v: [editline]9th July 2012[/editline] Talking about pictures, have a bad quality one of me and my bird: [T]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6525472/Bilder/Ich/Me%2BJackie.png[/T]
I'd rather not show my bad skin. Also I've established what i look like, so no need to plague this thread with pictures of me unless theres a significant event that calls for it.
Hmm... I just took a look around on my PC... Damn, I have quite a lot of pictures of me.
How does one prostate?
[QUOTE=Rape_Man;36694683]How does one prostate?[/QUOTE] First one must rectum.
Now it's getting interesting... [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] And in addition to my post above with the pictures, should I post some more? :v:
Yes please~
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edit: Gay ppl help me, why cant I search on FP anymore?
[QUOTE=Subwayy;36695360]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edit: Gay ppl help me, why cant I search on FP anymore?[/QUOTE] It's disabled for blues. Also, don't change your avatar. We must protest the small file size. Me with my 64 x49, and you with your 80x80
80x80 GIF Master race.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;36689953]I must admit I have neither the time nor patience at present to counter each of your points. But from an analytical viewpoint it seems to me you enjoy seeming intellectually superior to people, specifically those who are already cut low due to insecurities and emotions.[/QUOTE] I don't want to appear intellectually superior to people; I'm not a massively smart guy, I just read and think a lot. I mainly cut through people with insecurities because they need to hear it. I've been on Facepunch since 2005, and forums in general since 2003 so you get used to certain patterns of behaviour. A lot of emo stuff is narcissism dressed up as depth; I've been there so I know how appealing it is to post about how sad you are to get attention. But there's a limit. A lot of people seem to have learned helplessness, which means they say and do things they know are bad (e.g. "I'm so sad, I guess I'll go cut myself :(" <- this person knows self harm is bad and is intentionally posting about it to attract attention) to try and provoke people into reacting so that someone will rescue them. The newsflash is that nobody's going to swoop in and rescue you, you're just going to try and get negative attention over and over again. People treat a lot of mental illnesses with kid gloves, and mental illnesses aren't something you can just shake off. But equally, you shouldn't enable destructive behaviour. If you cut through the "Aw, poor bb <3" stuff and tell people proper advice, they probably won't want to hear it but it might give them food for thought. Internet friends and internet relationships are poor surrogates for the real thing and the sooner people stop relying on that and start mingling more with people, the better. I have a different definition of friend to a lot of people perhaps; I'm friendly with a fair few people on this forum and I imagine if we all did live together we'd be friends, but I can say that about so many people in my life - if I hung out with this person frequently enough, we'd become friends, but I don't have time so they'll just be friendly acquaintances. Out of 7 years on Facepunch I'd say I've made two friends and only one of them doesn't live close to me (although he doesn't really post here any more). It's very easy to stay in your comfort zone, say that nobody around you understands you like your internet friends and live in a little bubble. But it's not healthy nor advisable... you need to work hard to make friends in real life sometimes, but it's worth it and so much better than socialising through the internet. Like today I hung out with a few friends, baked some cupcakes, got tipsy off some Greek dessert wine and watched some telly. We didn't really do anything. But that sort of intimacy can't really be obtained just from Skyping people.
[QUOTE=Livewire2440;36695450]GIF Master race.[/QUOTE] hey hey hey
[QUOTE=Livewire2440;36695325]Yes please~[/QUOTE] Okay. [T]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6525472/Bilder/Ich/PTDC0004.JPG[/T] Ignore the date in the bottom left corner. The picture was taken last year after a party.
gifs are gay
They fit this thread then. :v:
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