I'm glad to see you're all patting yourself on the back for having completely shit all over a member of a forum. I'll admit this his first original posts were trying a little too hard to sound deep and edgy, but then he went into detail about what he meant and he really didn't mean at all what you think he meant. He never said he thinks about killing his friends all the time, simply that he likes to mentally think about all different kinds of scenarios which he would have to react to in all different ways. All it took was one person to misconstrue his post before you had everyone in here trying to feel better about themselves by belittling a person who obviously had issues.
I personally love the part where someone called him out on mentioning he was on medication. People pull that shit all the time and it is generally ignored, but usually you'll get a few sympathy posts until someone else feels the need to bring them attention unto themselves. Most of the people who frequent this thread do in fact suffer from a variety of illnesses so it's so very hypocritical to pull that shit out on a single person.
Everyone who said, 'My uncle was in the army and was the nicest guy I know' Did that relative also serve actively in hostile territory such as the middle east for long periods of time? I'm not saying Doktor did but you just need to think a little about how people will react to what you say before you post. The biggest offender of that here is Splurgy.
I'm not really sure why I hate Splurgy's posts so much, but it's probably because everything he says sounds like things I think but never say. This is because I understand how hurtful harsh words can be, and it's most frustrating when you are feeling down. This is especially evident for Splurgy's 'wake up' posts which seem to completely degrade the user, and then Splurgy gets a few pats on the back for it. If you tried pulling that shit in real life, I can tell you 100% you would've only made things worse. I'm not saying anyone should be coddled, but the manner in which you go about calling them out on things could most definitely use some work. Besides, it's an internet forum. Why do you feel the need to call them out on such things, anyways?
tl;dr - You are all assholes and I wonder why I still read this thread.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010575]I'm glad to see you're all patting yourself on the back for having completely shit all over a member of a forum. I'll admit this his first original posts were trying a little too hard to sound deep and edgy, but then he went into detail about what he meant and he really didn't mean at all what you think he meant. He never said he thinks about killing his friends all the time, simply that he likes to mentally think about all different kinds of scenarios which he would have to react to in all different ways. All it took was one person to misconstrue his post before you had everyone in here trying to feel better about themselves by belittling a person who obviously had issues.
I personally love the part where someone called him out on mentioning he was on medication. People pull that shit all the time and it is generally annoyed, but usually you'll get a few sympathy posts until someone else feels the need to bring them attention unto themselves. Most of the people who frequent this thread do in fact suffer from a variety of illnesses so it's so very hypocritical to pull that shit out on a single person.
Everyone who said, 'My uncle was in the army and was the nicest guy I know' Did that relative also serve actively in hostile territory such as the middle east for long periods of time? I'm not saying Doktor did but you just need to think a little about how people will react to what you say before you post. The biggest offender of that here is Splurgy.
I'm not really sure why I hate Splurgy's posts so much, but it's probably because everything he says sounds like things I think but never say. This is because I understand how hurtful harsh words can be, and it's most frustrating when you are feeling down. This is especially evident for Splurgy's 'wake up' posts which seem to completely degrade the user, and then Splurgy gets a few pats on the back for it. If you tried pulling that shit in real life, I can tell you 100% you would've only made things worse. I'm not saying anyone should be coddled, but the manner in which you go about calling them out on things could most definitely use some work. Besides, it's an internet forum. Why do you feel the need to call them out on such things, anyways?
tl;dr - You are all assholes and I wonder why I still read this thread.[/QUOTE]
So you're calling us out to complain about how we saw a need to call him out.
Ok.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010575]
tl;dr - You are all assholes and I wonder why I still read this thread.[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, because behaving like a child just because we thought something he said was weird as fuck is definitely something you can justify.
He even said he was glad he shit on the thread.
[QUOTE=Chaplin;37010615]Yeah man, because behaving like a child just because we thought something he said was weird as fuck is definitely something you can justify.
He even said he was glad he shit on the thread.[/QUOTE]
That was obviously the only response he could give after being backed into a corner like he was. Perhaps it was because I was reading it after the fact and didn't experience the emotion of the conversation as it was occuring, but that could definitely have been handled a lot better.
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[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010636]That was obviously the only response he could give after being backed into a corner like he was. Perhaps it was because I was reading it after the fact and didn't experience the emotion of the conversation as it was occuring, but that could definitely have been handled a lot better.[/QUOTE]
Where I come from, we have an idiom type thing: "Patear la perra", it literally translates into "kicking the dog", it basically means taking out your anger on someone who hasn't done anything to you.
Just because he was pissed with life he doesn't have the right to come in and flame for 3 fucking pages. If he was looking for someone to cheer him up in this thread then he sure as hell went wrong in telling us.
[QUOTE=Teto;37010419]again
[I]say it again[/I]
[editline]31st July 2012[/editline]
mmmmmmmmmmmmm[/QUOTE]
Haha, yes, I really do hate you teto, with all of my gu- wait a second... Are.. Are you getting some kind of sick, sexual fantasies out of this or something? Oh god, I feel filthy! Used and abused! I need a shower to wash off the sins :'(
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010636]That was obviously the only response he could give after being backed into a corner like he was. Perhaps it was because I was reading it after the fact and didn't experience the emotion of the conversation as it was occuring, but that could definitely have been handled a lot better.[/QUOTE]
We've all been that guy who's said something stupid and gotten backed into a corner. The best way to respond is to admit you were an idiot and stop posting completely.
There's never just one way he could have responded to us and he chose to be an asshole.
I think in general if the reaction was a little harsh it was still justified because he would have gone on to keep trying to shit in the punch bowl.
Just report shitposters and stop trying to be cool and chewing them out on the forum, this thread goes nowhere but in circles every time I check in
[QUOTE=Chaplin;37010679]Where I come from, we have an idiom type thing: "Patear la perra", it literally translates into "kicking the dog", it basically means taking out your anger on someone who hasn't done anything to you.
Just because he was pissed with life he doesn't have the right to come in and flame for 3 fucking pages. If he was looking for someone to cheer him up in this thread then he sure as hell went wrong in telling us.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to have to ask you to re-read those three pages and look at the amount of his hostility directed specifically towards other people, versus the amount aimed specifically at him. I think you should do a little reflection on 'kicking the dog'.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;37010691]Haha, yes, I really do hate you teto, with all of my gu- wait a second... Are.. Are you getting some kind of sick, sexual fantasies out of this or something? Oh god, I feel filthy! Used and abused! I need a shower to wash off the sins :'([/QUOTE]
Write a story about your shower adventures. Go into detail about how hot the water was.
I've been backed into a corner in threads and didn't give up which only made me and everyone else look like douchebags, then two days later everybody's forgotten about it anyways. It's not worth it
talk about cocks
[QUOTE=Teto;37010716]Write a story about your shower adventures. Go into detail about how hot the water was.[/QUOTE]
for ur eyes only xo
Most [B]little things[/B] can be lived down.
But mikey's penis can't.
does anyone know if there is a script to hide people's post completely when you ignore them?
[IMG]http://puu.sh/Nbfs[/IMG]
what I'm referring to
[QUOTE=Teto;37010733]Most [B]little things[/B] can be lived down.
But mikey's penis can't.[/QUOTE]
It's not the size that counts, but what you do with it :(
Besides, you weren't complaining last night!
[QUOTE=Lebowski;37010704]We've all been that guy who's said something stupid and gotten backed into a corner. The best way to respond is to admit you were an idiot and stop posting completely.
There's never just one way he could have responded to us and he chose to be an asshole.
I think in general if the reaction was a little harsh it was still justified because he would have gone on to keep trying to shit in the punch bowl.[/QUOTE]
I think given the circumstances it was much better than it could've been. Nothing seemed overtly sensitive to the criticism he was receiving, because the criticism was way overboard and undeserved.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;37010762]It's not the size that counts, but what you do with it :(
Besides, you weren't complaining last night![/QUOTE]
Why would I complain? The fish was delicious, it was a really nice dinner thank you.
...wait this has nothing to do with your penis!!!
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010783]I think given the circumstances it was much worse. Nothing seemed overtly sensitive to the criticism he was receiving, because the criticism was way overboard and undeserved.[/QUOTE]
I do have to admit re-reading the whole thing it is more than a "little" harsh but it'll be forgotten about in a day or two and then he has the choice whether he wants to stir the pot again or if he'll leave it alone.
I have to disagree and say it wasn't totally undeserved but we probably could have avoided antagonizing him as much as we did.
But then again I have to admit that sometimes it's just hard not to be an asshole to an asshole; but I digress; it's not really worth talking about now that it's over.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010783]I think given the circumstances it was much better than it could've been. Nothing seemed overtly sensitive to the criticism he was receiving, because the criticism was way overboard and undeserved.[/QUOTE]
u know right now he is reading this and just getting pissed, no reason for you to swoop in on your silver glowing steed, with it's glowing white mane and good dress sense, and unmatched intelligence, though modest and good humoured, and quite a lonely steed really, for it is left by it self in the stable to eat hay and not make hay at all! It cannot be happy as long as it stays in the stable, a horse needs attention. It does its best for you, but you don't appreciate him. He cries. But today he is free and roaming, swooping you in. The tragedy is that he has achieved nothing by swooping you in, because there was no point because you didn't need to be protecting anybody. The horse has been used for no good reason, and so it is disappointed once again. Look at what you have done by white knighting.
[QUOTE=Teto;37010842]u know right now he is reading this and just getting pissed, no reason for you to swoop in on your silver glowing steed, with it's glowing white mane and good dress sense, and unmatched intelligence, though modest and good humoured, and quite a lonely steed really, for it is left by it self in the stable to eat hay and not make hay at all! It cannot be happy as long as it stays in the stable, a horse needs attention. It does its best for you, but you don't appreciate him. He cries. But today he is free and roaming, swooping you in. The tragedy is that he has achieved nothing by swooping you in, because there was no point because you didn't need to be protecting anybody. The horse has been used for no good reason, and so it is disappointed once again. Look at what you have done by white knighting.[/QUOTE]
I thought white knighting was generally a term to describe straight people who defend women in video games for no good reason.
You're saying Doktor is getting mad at what I'm posting? I do not understand and I just want my steed to be happy :( I want everyone's steed to be happy, in fact
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010893]I thought white knighting was generally a term to describe straight people who defend women in video games for no good reason.
You're saying Doktor is getting mad at what I'm posting? I do not understand and I just want my steed to be happy :( I want everyone's steed to be happy, in fact[/QUOTE]
Not sure if he was actually angry. Just that he didn't like that he'd caused so much drama and that he'd left everybody thinking so badly of him? I think. I wont go on about it though, I don't think this is worth dragging out, and I don't really think it's my business to tell you what he thinks.
[QUOTE=Teto;37010803]Why would I complain? The fish was delicious, it was a really nice dinner thank you.
...wait this has nothing to do with your penis!!![/QUOTE]
no shower story for you
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;37010963]no shower story for you[/QUOTE]
Oh well, I can do without. I already know how it goes.
Okay I legitimately feel bad about myself.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010575]I'm glad to see you're all patting yourself on the back for having completely shit all over a member of a forum. I'll admit this his first original posts were trying a little too hard to sound deep and edgy, but then he went into detail about what he meant and he really didn't mean at all what you think he meant. He never said he thinks about killing his friends all the time, simply that he likes to mentally think about all different kinds of scenarios which he would have to react to in all different ways. All it took was one person to misconstrue his post before you had everyone in here trying to feel better about themselves by belittling a person who obviously had issues.
I personally love the part where someone called him out on mentioning he was on medication. People pull that shit all the time and it is generally annoyed, but usually you'll get a few sympathy posts until someone else feels the need to bring them attention unto themselves. Most of the people who frequent this thread do in fact suffer from a variety of illnesses so it's so very hypocritical to pull that shit out on a single person.
Everyone who said, 'My uncle was in the army and was the nicest guy I know' Did that relative also serve actively in hostile territory such as the middle east for long periods of time? I'm not saying Doktor did but you just need to think a little about how people will react to what you say before you post. The biggest offender of that here is Splurgy.
I'm not really sure why I hate Splurgy's posts so much, but it's probably because everything he says sounds like things I think but never say. This is because I understand how hurtful harsh words can be, and it's most frustrating when you are feeling down. This is especially evident for Splurgy's 'wake up' posts which seem to completely degrade the user, and then Splurgy gets a few pats on the back for it. If you tried pulling that shit in real life, I can tell you 100% you would've only made things worse. I'm not saying anyone should be coddled, but the manner in which you go about calling them out on things could most definitely use some work. Besides, it's an internet forum. Why do you feel the need to call them out on such things, anyways?
tl;dr - You are all assholes and I wonder why I still read this thread.[/QUOTE]
I mainly post the way I do because it's the only effective way to spur on discussion. As said, everyone's thinking this stuff but nobody's saying it; without anyone saying it self-destructive patterns of behaviour repeat. I've seen people play the same fiddle for years and ruin some of their friends' lives through emotional manipulation disguised as helplessness. Hence I have very little patience for people who cling to their mental illness in this manner.
Perhaps it's cruel, but I started down that same path myself a very long time ago and was shaken out of it. I could very easily have become one of those people who brags about how much medication they're on and how they have so many mental issues but I was shown the error of my ways. At the time, it was incredibly hurtful... but it's let me grow as a person. Being mollycoddled will not achieve this because the person's unlikely to learn threatening suicide because their friends aren't hanging out with them enough (for example) is not appropriate behaviour, because until someone takes them to task on the issue it works.
This mainly started because he was telling a forum member that they didn't need to seek friendship and friendship wasn't something valuable... something that the person in question didn't need to hear. When called on this, he quite rapidly ran back to the defence that he's had a hard life and is on medication. That doesn't invalidate those points, it's saying "I have condition x, please stop disagreeing with me". When this didn't work, he threatened suicide.
What are we supposed to do? Be his audience?
As for why I feel the need to call him on such things, well I feel nobody tends to call mentally ill people on inappropriate behaviour because "he has a mental illness so you can't say that". I don't do it to make myself feel better about myself; I find it quite draining actually, but it's what I've known to be effective. You can either tell someone that maybe perhaps they should consider going to a therapist maybe a little bit if they feel like it perhaps, or you can tell them that they're going to go to a therapist and until they sort their life out, the only response they'll get from you until they do it is "go to a therapist" and they've been in tears and it wasn't until you literally [i]forced[/i] them to go to a therapist to get sorted out, they went. Call it tough love. In that situation, there was nothing I wanted more to hug the person and shh them and say it's ok etc etc but I had to restrain that impulse and do something that on the surface is quite cold and callous in order to actually achieve change in their lives.
If that makes me a bad person, so be it.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37010893]I thought white knighting was generally a term to describe straight people who defend women in video games for no good reason.
You're saying Doktor is getting mad at what I'm posting? I do not understand and I just want my steed to be happy :( I want everyone's steed to be happy, in fact[/QUOTE]
I prefer to think of Whiteknighting as people like [url=http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/2011/11/whats-wrong-with-white-knighting/]this[/url]
And also a hilarious compilation of whiteknighting just for comedy and generally feeling better about oneself can be found [url=http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/2011/12/white-knight-chronicles-misc-edition/]here[/url]
(Side note, this is the greatest and best blog of all time forever)
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;37011013]I mainly post the way I do because it's the only effective way to spur on discussion. As said, everyone's thinking this stuff but nobody's saying it; without anyone saying it self-destructive patterns of behaviour repeat. I've seen people play the same fiddle for years and ruin some of their friends' lives through emotional manipulation disguised as helplessness. Hence I have very little patience for people who cling to their mental illness in this manner.
Perhaps it's cruel, but I started down that same path myself a very long time ago and was shaken out of it. I could very easily have become one of those people who brags about how much medication they're on and how they have so many mental issues but I was shown the error of my ways. At the time, it was incredibly hurtful... but it's let me grow as a person. Being mollycoddled will not achieve this because the person's unlikely to learn threatening suicide because their friends aren't hanging out with them enough (for example) is not appropriate behaviour, because until someone takes them to task on the issue it works.
This mainly started because he was telling a forum member that they didn't need to seek friendship and friendship wasn't something valuable... something that the person in question didn't need to hear. When called on this, he quite rapidly ran back to the defence that he's had a hard life and is on medication. That doesn't invalidate those points, it's saying "I have condition x, please stop disagreeing with me". When this didn't work, he threatened suicide.
What are we supposed to do? Be his audience?
As for why I feel the need to call him on such things, well I feel nobody tends to call mentally ill people on inappropriate behaviour because "he has a mental illness so you can't say that". I don't do it to make myself feel better about myself; I find it quite draining actually, but it's what I've known to be effective. You can either tell someone that maybe perhaps they should consider going to a therapist maybe a little bit if they feel like it perhaps, or you can tell them that they're going to go to a therapist and until they sort their life out, the only response they'll get from you until they do it is "go to a therapist" and they've been in tears and it wasn't until you literally [i]forced[/i] them to go to a therapist to get sorted out, they went. Call it tough love. In that situation, there was nothing I wanted more to hug the person and shh them and say it's ok etc etc but I had to restrain that impulse and do something that on the surface is quite cold and callous in order to actually achieve change in their lives.
If that makes me a bad person, so be it.[/QUOTE]
Once again Splurgy finds a way to put ideas into words that the rest of us just couldn't fit together due to the sheer reality of it. Thank u hun <3
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;37011013]I mainly post the way I do because it's the only effective way to spur on discussion. As said, everyone's thinking this stuff but nobody's saying it; without anyone saying it self-destructive patterns of behaviour repeat. I've seen people play the same fiddle for years and ruin some of their friends' lives through emotional manipulation disguised as helplessness. Hence I have very little patience for people who cling to their mental illness in this manner.
Perhaps it's cruel, but I started down that same path myself a very long time ago and was shaken out of it. I could very easily have become one of those people who brags about how much medication they're on and how they have so many mental issues but I was shown the error of my ways. At the time, it was incredibly hurtful... but it's let me grow as a person. Being mollycoddled will not achieve this because the person's unlikely to learn threatening suicide because their friends aren't hanging out with them enough (for example) is not appropriate behaviour, because until someone takes them to task on the issue it works.
This mainly started because he was telling a forum member that they didn't need to seek friendship and friendship wasn't something valuable... something that the person in question didn't need to hear. When called on this, he quite rapidly ran back to the defence that he's had a hard life and is on medication. That doesn't invalidate those points, it's saying "I have condition x, please stop disagreeing with me". When this didn't work, he threatened suicide.
What are we supposed to do? Be his audience?
As for why I feel the need to call him on such things, well I feel nobody tends to call mentally ill people on inappropriate behaviour because "he has a mental illness so you can't say that". I don't do it to make myself feel better about myself; I find it quite draining actually, but it's what I've known to be effective. You can either tell someone that maybe perhaps they should consider going to a therapist maybe a little bit if they feel like it perhaps, or you can tell them that they're going to go to a therapist and until they sort their life out, the only response they'll get from you until they do it is "go to a therapist" and they've been in tears and it wasn't until you literally [i]forced[/i] them to go to a therapist to get sorted out, they went. Call it tough love. In that situation, there was nothing I wanted more to hug the person and shh them and say it's ok etc etc but I had to restrain that impulse and do something that on the surface is quite cold and callous in order to actually achieve change in their lives.
If that makes me a bad person, so be it.[/QUOTE]
You were able to understand the err of your ways because you as a person were able to make that call. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a similar personality type as yours.
Understanding that this is likely to trigger a defensive response, why did you feel the need to post your 'credentials', so to speak, in dealing with mental illness? You are coming down on him for trying to garner sympathy in order to cease the argument, but you yourself are doing it in order to sound more credible.
I understand some of the points you are trying to make, I really do, but you have to understand your tough love approach doesn't work with everyone. And neither, if I may concess, does coddling someone. But you really have to feel out someones character to a point in order to make that call. This is something no one could have done given the limited interaction of an online forum.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;37011121] but you have to understand your tough love approach doesn't work with everyone. And neither, if I may concess, does coddling someone.[/QUOTE]
then what does o great knowledgeable one
[QUOTE=Saza;37011169]then what does o great knowledgeable one[/QUOTE]
I'm just trying to bring some perspective to the situation. There's no need to adopt a patronizing attitude.
And like I said, it depends on the person and how well you know them.
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