What happens to humanity after we develop Virtual Reality? - General

[QUOTE=ripsipiirakk;16192958]It would probably cost alot. Only really rich could use it. Most people would live life like always.[/QUOTE] This is what they said about the automobile [editline]09:51AM[/editline] And its quite obvious something along these lines is gonna haapen. our closes comparison is World of Warcraft. Everyday millions log on to play in a virtual world where they could do things they couldnt normally in real life. Some people go as far as being addictide to WoW. Turning down invitations to sit home and play in your virtual world known as World of Warcraft. When the technology is there, im sure a lot of people would rather spend a good part of their life in a virtual world. But who knows if humanity will ever get as far as that. [editline]09:51AM[/editline] think about it

[QUOTE=Doriol;16193319]What does censorship have to do with virtual reality?[/QUOTE] I believe he is refering to the fact that in the book, people would buy four massive TV screens that covered all the walls in a room so they could escape from the harshness of reality

We won't because we'll probably kill ourselves before we do it. Even if we manage to do it, it'll probably be so imperfect that no-one would use it. Also you can't get exercise from going into a virtual word. This could happen too :I [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTJ7mCcFoY[/media]

[QUOTE=Scope0;16196485]This is what they said about the automobile [editline]09:51AM[/editline] And its quite obvious something along these lines is gonna haapen. our closes comparison is World of Warcraft. Everyday millions log on to play in a virtual world where they could do things they couldnt normally in real life. Some people go as far as being addictide to WoW. Turning down invitations to sit home and play in your virtual world known as World of Warcraft. When the technology is there, im sure a lot of people would rather spend a good part of their life in a virtual world. But who knows if humanity will ever get as far as that. [editline]09:51AM[/editline] think about it[/QUOTE] Woah, you're right. Well thought out...

[QUOTE=agun;16195982]So assuming you do get Virtual reality how are you going to make photos of other planet's textures? If a robot goes there then you may as well live the real world and go with the robot. Plus, in VR you could have GOD MODE and get ragdolled or slapped 1000 times.[/QUOTE] Send a photo recon satellite- there are your images. Send a radar satellite- there's your surface data. Send a small landing rover to take samples and measurements- there's your materials data, your atmosphere data, gravity data, etc. With all that you can create an exact duplicate of the planet/moon/comet/whatever in VR. For instance, you could have a VR Mars, without risking a single human life going there. Anything you'd want to do on Mars, you could do in VR Mars with total realism. Want to know what kind of biodome you'd need on Mars to support a small base of humans? Build and test it in VR Mars.

Vault 87 (wasn't it? [sp]the one with all the pods and that annoying girl kid who you just wanna kill![/sp])

[QUOTE=NinjaPanda;16195795]I'm not sure. If this were sending signals to the brain directly then I heard something about there being a way to basically slow down time. When I say slow down time I mean in the VR world you could be experiencing 1,000 years of life when in reality it has only been a few seconds. Couple this with the fact that people could do whatever they want in Virtual Reality and be whoever they wanted to be then of course I can see people wanting to stay in these worlds for their whole life as there are practically no disadvantages. You could program it in such a way that you live out a life which is completely the same as the one you were experiencing before VR and in such a way that you didn't know you were living in a VR world. When you then 'die' in that world you wake up and choose a different world to live in or just to start again whatever. Of course I'm not even sure if that thing about time seeming longer to the user is true or even remotely plausible but if it is then you can imagine all the benefits this would entail. Basically if someone had the choice of living in a VR world which to them would feel [B]exactly[/B] the same as the real world while also having the obvious benefits VR would give then why should they live in the real world? Interesting thing to think about and I don't know if what I just said made any sense, it's probably just some incoherant ramblings.[/QUOTE] This is as close as anyone has gotten to what I meant. Everyone is saying, why would anyone live in a VR world when you can live in the real one instead? Well think about it. In a VR world you could do whatever you want, it's a computer simulation. You can fly, you can make it so you don't feel pain, the possibilities are limitless. And no, it's not limited to 'the matrix'. The Idea of VR is to be able to load anything you want, so you [I]could[/I] live in a world like the matrix, but when you're feeling adventurous, you could load up some scenario from say WW2, and then try to play it out where you are one of the soldiers. That is what would attract people to it. You would be able to make anything happen.

[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;16198066]This is as close as anyone has gotten to what I meant. Everyone is saying, why would anyone live in a VR world when you can live in the real one instead? Well think about it. In a VR world you could do whatever you want, it's a computer simulation. You can fly, you can make it so you don't feel pain, the possibilities are limitless. And no, it's not limited to 'the matrix'. The Idea of VR is to be able to load anything you want, so you [I]could[/I] live in a world like the matrix, but when you're feeling adventurous, you could load up some scenario from say WW2, and then try to play it out where you are one of the soldiers. That is what would attract people to it. You would be able to make anything happen.[/QUOTE] Exactly. It's basically taking real life and removing all the limitations. And for VR wouldn't everything you're experiencing be made by your own imagination so there would be no need to make textures and whatever. I would guess that it is similar to a lucid dream.

I'm sure people would still like real life.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;16197727]Send a photo recon satellite- there are your images. Send a radar satellite- there's your surface data. Send a small landing rover to take samples and measurements- there's your materials data, your atmosphere data, gravity data, etc. With all that you can create an exact duplicate of the planet/moon/comet/whatever in VR. For instance, you could have a VR Mars, without risking a single human life going there. Anything you'd want to do on Mars, you could do in VR Mars with total realism. Want to know what kind of biodome you'd need on Mars to support a small base of humans? Build and test it in VR Mars.[/QUOTE] The complexity of a planet isn't as simple as you imagine it to be. As humans, we haven't even completely explored our own planet when look look at the deep jungles and other extreme biomes. Scientists estimate that for the 10,000 years that our civilization has been here, we've only explored about 5%-10% of earth's caves. A planet, when looked at through a data perspective, contains an untold amount of data. It would be extremely hard and inefficient to invest funds into create an exact VR replica of a planet. It's not just a simple matter of taking two snapshots and sending a rover down to scoop a cup of dirt.

This.

[QUOTE=soupman345;16198321]I'm sure people would still like real life.[/QUOTE] Why the hell would you prefer real life to a life where you could do anything, with the possible exception of hacking others worlds. You could invite other plugged in (which very well might be the majority of humanity) people/players to your world to interact with chaos, or something as unpredictable as another human, you could fly, you could walk through walls, you could simulate the apocalypse to see how your world would react while you might be a bandit there you could be a savior, or you could make the earth flat, see your god, talk to lizards, poop marshmellows, eat steel. ANYTHING. :science: And what do you mean manual labor is what keeps us going? quite a bit of our systems are automated as it is, so in the future we could very well be completely automated.

Instead of evolving, everyone will spend their entire lives having virtual sex with infinite stamina because they're disgusting perverts. Then an alien race with a superior culture that isn't centered around pleasure will take over the universe and kill the filthy masturbating humans in the process.

[QUOTE=billeh!;16198422]The complexity of a planet isn't as simple as you imagine it to be. As humans, we haven't even completely explored our own planet when look look at the deep jungles and other extreme biomes. Scientists estimate that for the 10,000 years that our civilization has been here, we've only explored about 5%-10% of earth's caves. A planet, when looked at through a data perspective, contains an untold amount of data. It would be extremely hard and inefficient to invest funds into create an exact VR replica of a planet. It's not just a simple matter of taking two snapshots and sending a rover down to scoop a cup of dirt.[/QUOTE] We very well may have explored our solar system and even colonized some of it by the time this happens you know... this won't happen in just years, but decades to centuries. [editline]04:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=phasebot-alt;16198535]Instead of evolving, everyone will spend their entire lives having virtual sex with infinite stamina because they're disgusting perverts. Then an alien race with a superior culture that isn't centered around pleasure will take over the universe and kill the filthy masturbating humans in the process.[/QUOTE] OR keep us as pets of course...

[QUOTE=MindMuncher;16198518]Why the hell would you prefer real life to a life where you could do anything, with the possible exception of hacking others worlds. You could invite other plugged in (which very well might be the majority of humanity) people/players to your world to interact with chaos, or something as unpredictable as another human, you could fly, you could walk through walls, you could simulate the apocalypse to see how your world would react while you might be a bandit there you could be a savior, or you could make the earth flat, see your god, talk to lizards, poop marshmellows, eat steel. ANYTHING. :science: [/QUOTE] Because it's not real. Games are fun, but that's just fucking stupid in my opinion, no one would be able to do anything well in real life.

I suppose that just the hedonists would be stuck to their VR sets, but the real contributors to society would still be unaffected.

[QUOTE=Doriol;16192961]I thought Wall-E was a good movie, too. We're talking about the future here. 1TB hard drives (example) would probably cost $5.[/QUOTE] Nah hard drives will be obsolete and solid state drives will be what we will use. And that is most likely the near future...

the idiots will be in virtual reality while the rest of the world enjoys the real world

I could see virtual reality as more useful for keeping the human minds occupied in long space journeys, one of the main issues is that living in a closed space for years drives them insane, virtual reality would work as a means to get away from that closed space into a world full of infinite possibilities. If you want to see what I mean, watch Virtuality, it was supposed to be a TV Series but it ended up just being a tv movie.

This image popped in my head when I saw this thread. [img]http://filesmelt.com/Imagehosting/pics/edc1a782a022c44a397b7a6334755538.jpg[/img]

Ah ha ha ha ha, the griefing potential in this is awesome.

[QUOTE=oogaboogaman;16200218]This image popped in my head when I saw this thread. *img goes here*[/QUOTE] that reminds me of a book I read [editline]05:34PM[/editline] [img]http://www.educationworld.com/a_books/images/lastbookbieimage1.jpg[/img] that one

[QUOTE=MS-DOS4;16192970]Hmm.. There's a movie coming out that's about this sort of thing. Forgot the name though...[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTJ7mCcFoY[/media] ...perhaps? fuking ninja'd

Surrogates, that film with Bruce Willis coming out soon, is kinda like virtual reality.

[QUOTE=soupman345;16199884]no one would be able to do anything well in real life.[/QUOTE] So? What's your point? We're getting closer and closer to having everything done for us and we're getting more and more dependent on computers with every day that passes.

[QUOTE=Juniez;16200301]that reminds me of a book I read [editline]05:34PM[/editline] [img]http://www.educationworld.com/a_books/images/lastbookbieimage1.jpg[/img] that one[/QUOTE] How could you have read the last book in the universe if I have a book right next to me right now that doesn't have the same title? It's "A Treasury of GREAT SCIENCE FICTION: volume one".

[QUOTE=MindMuncher;16204535]How could you have read the last book in the universe if I have a book right next to me right now that doesn't have the same title? It's "A Treasury of GREAT SCIENCE FICTION: volume one".[/QUOTE] I don't get it. Are you kidding?

[QUOTE=soupman345;16199884]Because it's not real. Games are fun, but that's just fucking stupid in my opinion, no one would be able to do anything well in real life.[/QUOTE] Because it would be exactly the same as reality you idgit. He's saying "what would humanity be like when Virtual Reality equals reality in it's complexity", or at least that's the idea that my comment was aimed towards... So yes, it would be EXACTLY like real. Besides, many people drink and eat fake/proccessed food. It's not "real" in the same sense that Spam isn't real, but people consume it anyway, beacuase to them it tastes better. Which reality would taste better to you? One where your movements are determined by gravity, or one where gravity is determined by you? [QUOTE=Doriol;16204572]I don't get it. Are you kidding?[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I was. Unless your asking if I was kidding about the book sitting next to me or it's title. I will give you my word: Those are legitimate. [QUOTE=oogaboogaman;16200218]This image popped in my head when I saw this thread. [media][img]http://filesmelt.com/Imagehosting/pics/edc1a782a022c44a397b7a6334755538.jpg[/img][/media][/QUOTE] I love that picture. Though I imagine if we have a headset we'd at least have a proper lawn chair to lounge in.

Thinkin about hacks and such ...

[QUOTE=MindMuncher;16204615]Because it would be exactly the same as reality you idgit. He's saying "what would humanity be like when Virtual Reality equals reality in it's complexity", or at least that's the idea that my comment was aimed towards...[/QUOTE] Hell, you can throw the laws of physics out the window. That's what appeals to me about the idea of VR; you can create your own world. I don't see why we should have to live in this world if we are capable of creating one of our own.