• "Growing out" of genres
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I have yet to grow out of metal As a matter of fact, I think I won't ever grow out of it. I listen to a lot more sludge, post, jazz and blues now Still a lot of metal though
speaking of teens on the internet listening to metal, I've always thought that the reason so many "grow out" of it is partially because they're metalheads only through listening (like I was for a while) rather than actively being involved in what I suppose you could call the culture of metal. It can be hard to explore and immerse yourself in something that's as inpenetrable to "outsiders" as metal generally seems, and i suppose without proper IRL links to some kind of community you'd probably exhaust your listening of all the obvious bands and just give up. As with a lot of genres, there's a "surface level" of metal, tbh it's probably worse than most because metalheads (occasionally myself included) can be quite defensive and wary of people not percieved as "genuine". It's silly but, given that metal has often been portrayed practically as a joke, perhaps it's understandable. @doozle that's fine. hope you didn't get thr wrong impression of my half-baked blatherings, i'm not implying that metal is necessarily likeable, or that it should be liked by everyone. i'm not [i]that[/i] insufferable.
I still listen to that and grunge occasionally, but I've moved on to all sorts of other stuff. Especially progressive rock, metal for the thinking man.
listened to Moby & Prodigy as a kid. Still do now.
[QUOTE=lil timmy;34787464]speaking of teens on the internet listening to metal, I've always thought that the reason so many "grow out" of it is partially because they're metalheads only through listening (like I was for a while) rather than actively being involved in what I suppose you could call the culture of metal. It can be hard to explore and immerse yourself in something that's as inpenetrable to "outsiders" as metal generally seems, and i suppose without proper IRL links to some kind of community you'd probably exhaust your listening of all the obvious bands and just give up. As with a lot of genres, there's a "surface level" of metal, tbh it's probably worse than most because metalheads (occasionally myself included) can be quite defensive and wary of people not percieved as "genuine". It's silly but, given that metal has often been portrayed practically as a joke, perhaps it's understandable. @doozle that's fine. hope you didn't get thr wrong impression of my half-baked blatherings, i'm not implying that metal is necessarily likeable, or that it should be liked by everyone. i'm not [i]that[/i] insufferable.[/QUOTE] My post wasn't directed at anyone, it's just alot of people mentioned metal, I always had this view that metal is somewhat infantile and that most people grow out of it. I understand what you're saying about being involved, the few people I know who are still into metal often go to gigs.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;34786168]Did anyone else start there metal journey with a band other than the big 4 or Pantera? I started with In Flames.[/QUOTE] Bullet for my Valentine, through to Iron Maiden and then Megadeth and then Prog, Folk and some classical.
sorry if I was a bit snappish, I've had to put up with being told to grow out of metal since I was 17. More on topic, I think if you ever "grow out" of a grenre (and this applies to EVERYTHING) then you probably never [I]really[/I] liked it anyway
listened to a little bit of a7x and black sabbath when I was about 7-10... more namely city of evil and some "greatest hits" compilation. age 12 I started listening to more tool, pendulum, aphex twin, the prodigy, and justice. now i'm pretty much blown out to listen to something regardless of genre
I can't see myself growing out of metal, I still listen to Iron Maiden, granted I listen to more proggy records now from them than I used to, but I still find thrash interesting when I'm in the right mood, but I love prog and folk, but I tend to write more thrashy songs.
I listened to metal and metal-like genres such as Iron Maiden, Metallica, Disturbed etc from like 6-11 or something. Now I like many genres(not metal as much though) specifically Hip-Hop, Jazz, Soul and other bands like A Day To Remember, Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy etc.
Never really listened to metal as religiously as some people did. I was more the ~classic rock~ style kid. (AC/DC, Zeppelin, Boston, etc.) When I was really young my mom always played country and I enjoyed that well enough, still do, but for a period I wouldn't touch it or listen to it. I don't think I've grown out of any genres, I think I've grown away from them and I'd like to revisit some of them.
I tend to think that people grow out of genres because they don't find anything new within that genre, for whatever reason. Since metal seems to be the topic of the day, I won't deny that there are a lot of bands that try to sound like other bands. But there are also a lot of bands that try to sound different from other bands, too. If you're only able to find bands of the former, then yeah, you probably will get burned out pretty quickly. But if you can find bands of the latter type, then it tends to, for lack of a better analogy, open the door to let some fresh air in. For the past few years I've been looking for all kinds of genre fusions, both entirely within the metal genre and with fusions from outside. Examples include power metal / death metal fusions, symphonic music / metal fusions, tribal music / metal fusions, dubstep / metal fusions, jazz / metal fusions. And then, of course, the progressive genres of metal, like post-metal, experimental/avant-garde metal, and (derp) progressive metal generally keep things fresh. I mean, what's not to love about a pummelling death metal barrage devolving into a synth-pad ambient track with a jazz sax solo, or a raging screaming typhoon of violence breaking into a J-pop synthfest with bubbly female vocals? It's a nice break from the non-stop metal barrage so many bands pursue.
i never listened to metal. i grew up with punk and joni mitchell and that's still pretty much along the lines of what i listen to today. when i was a bit older i discovered electronic music via kraftwerk and the old 80's techno gangs. maybe one day i listen to metal but it's too bombastic and silly for me, i don't have the mentality to understand it.
I only grew out of most metal and pop punk. However I still love Black Metal and the more extreme side of Doom Metal. But from Black Metal I found my self exploring the other genres I love, like Post-Rock, Folk, Ambient and a few others.
I'm pretty sure everybody has some sort of musical growth at some point, whether or not that's "out of a genre" depends. Personally I began with classic rock pretty young, I wouldn't say I grew out of it but I got bored with it, I wanted to hear new things. I got into alternative rock and eventually metalcore which I eventually grew out of as well. That whole metalcore phase was very short (less than a year) but it was what got me more interested in music in general. I still listen to some metal, not so much metalcore anymore but all of those bands that got me excited about music so long ago are still pretty special to me, even though I don't really listen to them anymore. Some people will probably go through their whole life listening to just one genre which is okay as long as that's what they're into and they at least try to enjoy other styles, they don't need to search anymore for genres that they like. For others, growing out of genres is just part of the search to find the music that they like the most.
I dunno.. I got into Metal at age 12 and still going strong. I like prog more though.. Dream Theater, Symphony X, Black Mages, ect. I just like GOOD sounding stuff, actual talent - if you will.
[QUOTE=FreeHat;34796010]I dunno.. I got into Metal at age 12 and still going strong. [B]I like prog more[/B] though.. Dream Theater, Symphony X, Black Mages, ect. [B]I just like GOOD sounding stuff, actual talent - if you will.[/B][/QUOTE] Yep, you're a prog fan. You've got the pretentiousness down [B]PAT.[/B] :v:
[QUOTE=FreeHat;34796010]I dunno.. I got into Metal at age 12 and still going strong. I like prog more though.. Dream Theater, Symphony X, Black Mages, ect. I just like GOOD sounding stuff, actual talent - if you will.[/QUOTE] You'll branch out at some point, everyone does usually.
people worry too much about this "branch out" mindset. it's not the amount of genres you listen to, it's the styles that you are capable of connecting with and enjoying. There's a lot of things that I've yet to fully appreciate. [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=FreeHat;34796010] actual talent - if you will.[/QUOTE] That's great.
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[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;34785849]metal during puberty fuels your emotions to rebel, be different lust anger hatred (in some of us) eventually you learn to control these emotions and you don't feel the need to express them through music anymore. that's how it was for me of course I am speaking as a 14 year old onwards. not that all metal people are like this, but then again the first rules applies indefinitely for some people[/QUOTE] I listened to metal because, instrumentally, I thought it was interesting to listen to. Eventually I moved into Prog Rock/Metal. I started in high school. [B]E:[/B] I "grew out" out Power Metal and Melodic Death Metal. Stopped being interesting to me.
tbh that's because 95% of melo-death after about 1995 recycles the same At The Gates and late Carcass riffs and 95% of power metal is virtually the same ( I talk mostly about European power metal because US power metal is often just traditional heavy metal with the volume and camp factor turned up.) E: amusingly I often find that a lot of so-called "progressive" metal falls into the same trap as euro-power - where everyone uses exactly the same elements that "make it" progressive so everything ends up sounding vwery similar.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;34786168]Did anyone else start there metal journey with a band other than the big 4 or Pantera? I started with In Flames.[/QUOTE] I started with Iron Maiden
I remember when I first got into metal. It was when I heard Metallica's Wherever I May Roam when I was young, like 7 or something. Haven't grown out yet and I doubt that I ever will.
although I do find it interesting that it seems to be [i]expected[/i] that you'll grow out of metal.
[QUOTE=lil timmy;34802102]although I do find it interesting that it seems to be [i]expected[/i] that you'll grow out of metal.[/QUOTE] It's not expected to grow out of it, it's expected to try new stuff.
The first metal song I ever listened to: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt7roGM1rZ8&ob=av2n[/media] Needless to say, it took me a while to get into the vocals. But I persevered, because the instrumentation was just too awesome, and the chorus was melodic as fuck - even when I couldn't stand the vocals, I loved their melodies. I will probably never grow out of melodic metal. Melody is the primary reason I listen to metal. I mean, as of right now, I am listening to "Weight of the Dead" by Swallow the Sun, and anyone who has ever listened to Swallow the Sun probably knows that they're overflowing with melodic-metal-ness. :v: [editline]Fish[/editline] [b]IN UNRELATED NEWS:[/b] does anyone know why I can no longer do anything with the ratings? If I try to rate ANYONE, or if I try to view anyone's ratings (via the List control), then it just takes me back to the main page without registering my actions. Started about three days ago, hasn't stopped since. Only this account - I can log onto my alt on this computer and rate fine.
people that think prog is the end all be all are pricks. also 7777 posts god is good.
i agree with vedi, i enjoy prog but i can't stand pretentious douchebags that say it is the ultimate form of music
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;34802158]It's not expected to grow out of it, it's expected to try new stuff.[/QUOTE] you obviously know nicer people than I do lol. I think I might have mentioned it a few times but being a metalhead does not mutually exclude listening to and appreciating other music. Unfortunately I know a lot of people who don't think that way.
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