The Matrix Trilogy - General

[QUOTE=nightlord;38089500]What's the point in them destroying it each time and then letting it be rebuilt? I thought they wanted to wipe out all the Humans outside the matrix.[/QUOTE] Ideally, but they need Zion to control the obligatory few people who will subconsciously reject the Matrix, and that has something to do with the One who will be convinced by these people that he is a messiah, thus setting in motion the whole reloading the Matrix thing. Something like that. Now I remember why I didn't like the sequels. The first movie worked so well by itself and wasn't stupidly complex.

I don't understand all the hate towards the second movie It wasn't as good as the first one but it was still awesome

[QUOTE=superstepa;38096060]I don't understand all the hate towards the second movie It wasn't as good as the first one but it was still awesome[/QUOTE] Probably because most, including me, expected it to 1-up the first one. What we got instead was a total leap backwards in everything except action sequences.

actually the action sequences made me cringe when i watched it recently. a twin unloads a UMP firing giant fucking rounds that go straight through anything but the engine block. okay i remember now it was a 45 cause the mag was straight. i thought it was a double stack of 9mm or something at first, seemed a bit off to me. basically by the end of the sequence the car is riddled with bulletholes. it literally looks like someone bonnie and clyde death-car'd the protagonists, but ho, noone is hit. a sub machine gun is basically like a firing squad of men armed with pistols. there's a fuckload of giant bullets flying everywhere. except they're all coming from the same barrel. i know bulletproof objects aren't even near as close to as prevalent as they are in media as they are in real life... but shit like a simple overturned wooden table taking sustained automatic fire just seems fucking retarded to me. and the whole death car thing, it seems like all the protagonists have to do in that situation is keep their heads down and jerk around every once in a while in response as their vehicle gets hit to survive. and the act of doing so is so overdone i'm not even going to complain about cars exploding.

^stormtrooper effect, to an extent. trinity & co. won't die at the time because they are main characters, and the keymaker hasn't fulfilled his on-screen purpose yet, so even though he's more likely to be in danger at the time, he'll still live. Also, the soundtracks. The Matrix - sweet playlist of mixed songs, even the few that didn't make it into the film. Reloaded - Meh, could have been better and needed moar Don Davis Revolutions - More Don Davis indeed, makes it a lot better :D Also, A Detective's Story was the shit. I'd also think that every story in The Animatrix (with the exception of Osiris and Kid) happens before all the movies. This would explain why a Sentinel can be programmed to feel human emotions, or why a training program for re-entering the Matrix can exist. Same shit with the runner and haunted house story, they would be like during earlier versions of the Matrix, going along with the glitches in the system idea. Just saiyan.

I don't care what anyone says, the car chase scene in Matrix Reloaded will always be my favorite action scene of all time. I can't remember how many times I rewatched that scene back when I was too young to comprehend the story. This music brings back memories. [video=youtube;Qa3SAHpYrGs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3SAHpYrGs[/video]

I was told that in the original script, the machines used the humans for processing power, but the executives thought that people were too stupid to understand that, and made them change it to using humans as an energy source.

that sounds a bit stupid to me. it actually sounds dumber than using humans for power... which in itself is pretty dumb. and i think people would understand using people's brains as computers to power the processing needed for the matrix is a lot less complex and dodgy than "combined with a form of fusion the machines turn a human body into this *D-volt*" fusion? the fuck? i'm pretty sure the human body doesn't have enough of any element needed for fusion inside of it. also using their brains as processing power? for what? the matrix or themselves? if they're using them as logic units for their own use then why have a matrix which would take up most of the processing power of the brain anyways. why not just grow humans then harvest their brains?

Using humans for processing power makes a lot more sense. Lets compare the capabilities of the brain compared to computers in 1999. In 1999, the fastest PC processor chip on the market was a 700 MHz pentium that did 4,200 MIPS. Based upon studies of the retina, the processing power of an average brain to be about 100 million MIPS. It was then calculated that we would need 24,000 of these processors from 1999 in a system to match up to the total speed of the brain. This means that the brain is like a 1,680,000 MHz or a 1,680 GHz processor. In 1999 the world population reached about six billion. The United Nations Population Fund designated 12 October 1999 as the day it would have been reached. I think that using six billion people as 1,680 GHz processors each would be more cost effective considering how the human body is self-assembling and needs more common materials than a large super-computer would. Source(s): [url]http://library.thinkquest.org/C001501/the_saga/compare.htm[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_milestones[/url]

[QUOTE=MiniGeek;38123197]Using humans for processing power makes a lot more sense. Lets compare the capabilities of the brain compared to computers in 1999. In 1999, the fastest PC processor chip on the market was a 700 MHz pentium that did 4,200 MIPS. Based upon studies of the retina, the processing power of an average brain to be about 100 million MIPS. It was then calculated that we would need 24,000 of these processors from 1999 in a system to match up to the total speed of the brain. This means that the brain is like a 1,680,000 MHz or a 1,680 GHz processor. In 1999 the world population reached about six billion. The United Nations Population Fund designated 12 October 1999 as the day it would have been reached. I think that using six billion people as 1,680 GHz processors each would be more cost effective considering how the human body is self-assembling and needs more common materials than a large super-computer would. Source(s): [url]http://library.thinkquest.org/C001501/the_saga/compare.htm[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_milestones[/url][/QUOTE] But they're using them for power, not processing power. Nevermind missed the post above.

yeah but it's all semantics and you know it still just doesn't jive at all.

After watching that "architect translated" video, i've come to the following conclusion: The One itself is a glitch in the Matrix, an unprecedented code that gets wiped after every revision, but still pops up in newer versions. It's like how Smith put it, "human beings are a virus."

I liked the premise for all the movies; but the third one gets a tad cheesy at the end. Regardless, the plot behind the movies really makes them if you understand it. Here's a website that explains the plot clearly: [url]http://thematrix101.com/[/url] (Just click the movie and the 'meaning' tab to learn what the fuck is going on) tl;dr : The Oracle program made the entire human resistance her pawns in achieving a peace between Machine and Man.

I never could get over how stupid the concept of using humans for power was. If machines are smart enough to build the Matrix they are smart enough to build a fucking 1960's technology nuclear power plant. And how did the humans even disable the sun? How does one do that? And how did Neo suddenly connect to the Matrix without being plugged in? Did the machines suddenly give him a Wifi chip in his brain or something? And if the Matrix can somehow kill humans for real when they are connected, why send agents into the simulation to kill them instead of just sending the kill command directly to the connected rebels? The awesome action sequences make it still very enjoyable though.

[QUOTE=Robber;40523728]I never could get over how stupid the concept of using humans for power was. If machines are smart enough to build the Matrix they are smart enough to build a fucking 1960's technology nuclear power plant. And how did the humans even disable the sun? How does one do that? And how did Neo suddenly connect to the Matrix without being plugged in? Did the machines suddenly give him a Wifi chip in his brain or something? And if the Matrix can somehow kill humans for real when they are connected, why send agents into the simulation to kill them instead of just sending the kill command directly to the connected rebels? The awesome action sequences make it still very enjoyable though.[/QUOTE] Using humans for power also keeps them (mostly) under control, it's a win win Pretty sure they didn't disable the sun, they just scorched the sky so no sunlight can get through He didn't? When the rebels enter the matrix they "jack" in, which means they hack themselves in (kinda) so the machines can't detect them directly Forgive me if I get some bits wrong, I haven't watched these movies in a few years so I'm going from memory

Yeah they blocked the sun not disable it. I think what he means is Neo using the force because he's connected to the Matrix somehow.

well he IS the one and it was stated by the architect that this shit has happened before. there is always one anomaly (hence why the agents refer to him as the anomaly).