Rate The Last Movie You Watched - This Thread Took 12 Years To Make Edition - General

It all depends on the book and the film imo. Some really great films such as Blade Runner and Starship Troopers are extremely different from the books.

[QUOTE=matt000024;49395206]It all depends on the book and the film imo. Some really great films such as Blade Runner and Starship Troopers are extremely different from the books.[/QUOTE] this is when it's especially best to watch the movie first, since the two become such different experiences, it also helps to have the movie as a visual reference when reading the book.

[QUOTE=matt000024;49395206]It all depends on the book and the film imo. Some really great films such as Blade Runner and Starship Troopers are extremely different from the books.[/QUOTE] This is almost the only way a movie book adaptation works. The movie has to be its own thing. Kubrick is pretty masterful at this. The Shining and 2001 are both great examples where they felt true to their roots, yet were unique in certain important ways which allowed them to be excellent. [editline]26th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=LSK;49392849]Oh I will, especially considering the same person was behind all of it. I ordered volume 1 off Amazon a few days ago after watching the film, and I'm [i]really[/i] looking forward to it.[/QUOTE] I've read part of the Akira manga and seen the movie multiple times. My recommendation would be to watch the movie first honestly. They are both excellent, but I found that watching the movie first helped me to understand certain things that were going on in the manga a bit better (i'm not super big into manga or comics, so interpreting chronology and etc of events was a bit challenging for me). Also, like someone said, you are then absorbing the media in an order where things are being ADDED to the story rather than being taken away. The movie does skip some fairly important stuff. That being said, Akira, both as a movie and manga, is absolutely amazing in terms of the artistic detail. The illustrations in the manga are totally amazing.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;49394557]there doesn't have to be a rule for whether or not you watch the book or the movie first[/QUOTE] Separate media, apples and oranges. Unless we're speaking about so-called "perfect adaptations", such as Rosemary's Baby or Godfather, when one is so well translated into the other that it doesn't make sense to sit through both of them (if only to check how well it was made).

[QUOTE=Smeetin;49395315]This is almost the only way a movie book adaptation works. The movie has to be its own thing. Kubrick is pretty masterful at this. The Shining and 2001 are both great examples where they felt true to their roots, yet were unique in certain important ways which allowed them to be excellent.[/QUOTE] Yet some people still say The Shining movie sucks because it wasn't like the book.

[QUOTE=loopoo;49382654]The Revenant: very very slow paced, some beautiful cinematography but the plot dragged on at times. The movie focused on slow, beautiful panoramas, but there wasn't much action. Basically what you see in the trailers is all the action there is. For the ordeal DiCaprio goes through, he makes a pretty fast recovery despite having been out in the wilderness the entire time. Didn't know he had the healing factor of Deadpool, that broken leg sure did heal quick. I mean, I'd recommend people to give it at least one watch, but it wasn't captivating. I kept alt-tabbing during the movie and doing other stuff cause it's too much to sit through all at once.[/QUOTE] It bugs me that people alt-tab during movies and then blame the movie when they didn't enjoy it. Just muster up some will-power and actually get INTO the movie and watch it. I realize this isn't always possible, that is why I watch movies that fit the moods I'm in. [editline]26th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Scot;49395343]Yet some people still say The Shining movie sucks because it wasn't like the book.[/QUOTE] Ya, well they would be die hard Stephen King fans likely. I like Stephen King, don't get me wrong, but with the amount he writes he is pretty hit and miss, and with his track record on other adaptations of his books, I'm glad it he didn't have much to do with it. -- Also, though I'm excited for TFA when I get a chance to watch it, thanks to those that are reviewing other movies, I make a lot of viewing decisions based on people's opinions and thoughts here.

[QUOTE=Smeetin;49395315]This is almost the only way a movie book adaptation works. The movie has to be its own thing. Kubrick is pretty masterful at this. The Shining and 2001 are both great examples where they felt true to their roots, yet were unique in certain important ways which allowed them to be excellent. [editline]26th December 2015[/editline] I've read part of the Akira manga and seen the movie multiple times. My recommendation would be to watch the movie first honestly. They are both excellent, but I found that watching the movie first helped me to understand certain things that were going on in the manga a bit better (i'm not super big into manga or comics, so interpreting chronology and etc of events was a bit challenging for me). Also, like someone said, you are then absorbing the media in an order where things are being ADDED to the story rather than being taken away. The movie does skip some fairly important stuff. That being said, Akira, both as a movie and manga, is absolutely amazing in terms of the artistic detail. The illustrations in the manga are totally amazing.[/QUOTE] 2001 doesn't quite count, the book and movie were made simultaneously (on top of that both kubrick and clark are co-authors on both projects), and the only reason the film went to jupiter instead of saturn is because the technology to make saturn's rings didn't work so well or something along the lines of that.

Either way, the movie and the book were different and both successful. I love the book and I love the movie. In terms of the major differences, for me it is the presentation. 2001 the movie seems like a music video almost, but a damn good one. Also, the movie and book treat HAL pretty differently I thought. -- On topic: I watched Dredd again for the 3rd time last week and damn is it still as good as ever. Definitely my favourite action movie from that year and easily in my top 5 adaptations of something in the last long while. Dredd and John Wick are the movies I consistently hold-up to people when I want to give an example of a movie being incredibly successful with a simple motive / premise that isn't lost in the movie.

Since anime movies apparently count too, I watched A Wind Named Amnesia today. I don't like most of this movie. Wataru doesn't feel like a character, he's just something that exists out of necessity. He excels when compared to other people for no real reason other than 'some boy taught him'. Sophia doesn't feel like a character, she's just here to either spout exposition or faux-philosophical nonsense, at one point asking if it's right to force his own values on a group of people, despite the fact that they are about to commit human sacrifice. The ending, however, well... You know how Fallout 3 has that mission in Tenpenny Tower with the ghouls wanting to move in? Where the peaceful resolution ends up undercutting its own message with furious enthusiasm? That's pretty much what this movie does. Its ending took me straight from 'I don't like this' to 'take your pretentious, holier-than-thou bullshit and jump off a cliff'. The reveal just completely sinks the movie. Not only does it make absolutely no sense from a logical perspective, it's also being a fucking hypocrite about something Wataru gets chastised for even considering. Fuck this movie and its conflicting, uppity, bullshit mess of a narrative.

[QUOTE=matt000024;49395206]It all depends on the book and the film imo. Some really great films such as Blade Runner and Starship Troopers are extremely different from the books.[/QUOTE] the starship troopers movie is terrible. the book is pretty fascist tbh but its still really good

Ex Machina 8/10

[QUOTE=Pops;49394395]no no no you always watch the movie before reading the book especially in this case considering akira is like 2,000 pages and the movie is only two hours (and leaves out a lot of stuff)[/QUOTE] Especially for Akira, you may watch the film before. The books will add a lot of sense and details if you loved the movie. Otherwise, if you watch the movie after reading the books, you may be a little disapointed.

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49395726]the starship troopers movie is terrible.[/QUOTE] uh. no

I forgot I also saw 'Song of the Sea' a couple days ago, 7/10

Akira works really well as a standalone film that is different from its adaptation. Some people act like it not having everything in the manga is a bad thing, when it'd probably just be a horrible mess of a movie if it tried to fit everything in there. It's nice when adaptations do things differently in order to better fit the medium they're being adapted to, especially because you get to have multiple interpretations of the story to experience instead of just having the same thing again and again. Akira the film was clearly written to be a standalone movie while Akira the manga was clearly written to be a manga series. I'd recommend watching the movie first for the reasons said above, and because I [sp]like the surprise of Tetsuo's mutation in the end as a first way of experiencing it. In the manga it's built up to a lot more gradually and the final battle against Tetsuo doesn't quite have the same impact/shock factor as a result. I don't know if I'd say that one ending is necessarily better than the other because they're both very different, but if you don't already know what happens to Tetsuo at the end going in, I think it'd be a lot more fun to find out via the way the movie handles it.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Pops;49394395]no no no you always watch the movie before reading the book especially in this case considering akira is like 2,000 pages and the movie is only two hours (and leaves out a lot of stuff)[/QUOTE] aren't you supposed to read the book first (this doesn't work if it's a manga) so that you can create the world and characters look with your imagination, rather than a movie doing it for you? if you see the movie, you'll always see the movie characters and world when you read it. but if you read the book first, you sort of create your own world. not that i read books. i can't be bothered. but telling other people to watch a movie first seems wrong because it's not very imaginative. [editline]27th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49395726]the starship troopers movie is terrible. the book is pretty fascist tbh but its still really good[/QUOTE] hey look. somebody doesnt understand satire would you like to know more?

oh i perfectly understand that its satire, but you could always read a perfectly good book instead of watching a poop movie. the book is interesting and also pretty much the first thing to bring about the concept of powered suits which is pretty cool. i think the movies pretty lame and a lotta people dont know what its based on is a lot more philosophical than action oriented another thing i thought was pretty funny is in the movie the army is portrayed as one big conscript outfit and everyone is duped into joining, where as in the book they specifically try to dissuade people from joining the infantry and only want crack troops who really want to be there

[B]Blade Runner: The Final Cut[/B] - 10/10 I decided to rewatch this movie because I heard it gets better with repeat viewings. The first time I watched the film I enjoyed it but was confused by the plot and some of the ~deeper~ messages in the movie. After rewatching the movie I now consider it to be one of my favourite films. It is quite a beautiful film that has managed to stand the test of time and asks more questions than it answers. The film's atmosphere is superb, it's scored amazingly and the actors capture their characters perfectly. [editline]27th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Katska;49396017]Akira works really well as a standalone film that is different from its adaptation. Some people act like it not having everything in the manga is a bad thing, when it'd probably just be a horrible mess of a movie if it tried to fit everything in there. It's nice when adaptations do things differently in order to better fit the medium they're being adapted to, especially because you get to have multiple interpretations of the story to experience instead of just having the same thing again and again. Akira the film was clearly written to be a standalone movie while Akira the manga was clearly written to be a manga series. I'd recommend watching the movie first for the reasons said above, and because I [sp]like the surprise of Tetsuo's mutation in the end as a first way of experiencing it. In the manga it's built up to a lot more gradually and the final battle against Tetsuo doesn't quite have the same impact/shock factor as a result. I don't know if I'd say that one ending is necessarily better than the other because they're both very different, but if you don't already know what happens to Tetsuo at the end going in, I think it'd be a lot more fun to find out via the way the movie handles it.[/sp][/QUOTE] Damn, now I want to watch Akira again.

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49396326]oh i perfectly understand that its satire, but you could always read a perfectly good book instead of watching a poop movie. the book is interesting and also pretty much the first thing to bring about the concept of powered suits which is pretty cool[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ, at least when Rusty shits all over something, he at least always brings up something good about the movie even if he doesn't like it. You're just shitting all over it.

nah, i just don't like it as all. and for what it's trying to satirize i think it does a really lame job at doing so for a few of the reasons i gave it takes a really philosophical book and takes out tidbits of it, makes up the rest etc. and calls itself a good satire of it so im not a fan [editline]d[/editline] like pretty much if someone watched the movie, then read the book i feel like at least 50% of people would be mad at how vastly different it is. i suppose it's not a bad movie on its own but when i got a different perspective on it it feels very cheap [editline]d[/editline] it's like the Martian. not a bad movie but hollywood did what it does best and took out all the dark humor and best parts from the book and condensed it into space movie #2345 [editline]d[/editline] the director sounds like a boring dumbass tbh and too caught up in himself [quote]Verhoeven had never read the book, and attempted to read it for the film, but it made him "bored and depressed", so that he only read a few chapters: I stopped after two chapters because it was so boring,...It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn't read the thing. It's a very right-wing book.[6][/quote] if you're gonna try to satirize something maybe make the effort to know what you're talking about

its like rofl copter is doing a really bad impression of me

that boring dumbass also directed robocop and total recall

[QUOTE=Rusty100;49396499]its like rofl copter is doing a really bad impression of me[/QUOTE] hack [editline]d[/editline] Verhoeven is a hack fraud [editline]d[/editline] pretty great that you think that highly of yourself though

the hilarity of this page is 0/10 also I just discovered there's an actual 70mm imax print of Star Wars showing near me... in 2D. Why in the arse didn't I see it there first. :(

While we're on the topic of book adaptations, to the few people who have read the book form of The Revenant, should I read that before watching the movie?

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49395179]I don't care if a movie isn't as good as the book, or left things out. It's a movie first and it has to work as a movie, so if that means leaving things out then so be it.[/QUOTE] Totally agree. Plus there's the fact that films have a budget to follow and every adaptation would exceed said budget if every scene from a book was included (in most cases)

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49396386]like pretty much if someone watched the movie, then read the book i feel like at least 50% of people would be mad at how vastly different it is. i suppose it's not a bad movie on its own but when i got a different perspective on it it feels very cheap[/QUOTE] I liked both the book and the film. Both are pretty much separate entities achieving different things and I love them both for what they do. Both are reacting to different things. Veerhoven based the film on his memories of a child during WWII, but Heinlein based the novel primarily on the Korean War. Both films have similar plot moments and concepts, but they are overall two different things, each great for what they are looking to achieve. Anyway, review content... Full Metal Jacket - Interesting to see a Vietnam that places most of the set outside the jungle (probably due to Kubrick's fear of flying to leave his island). Amazing performances and was great and changing the mood of the film without actually damaging the plot flow, and instead causing a natural feel to the whole thing.

Seeing Hateful Eight on Monday so I decided to rewatch Inglourious Basterds Not Tarantino's best film but perhaps his best dialogue? The scene in the German bar has always been one of my favorite scenes from any of his movies and of course, the ending is extremely satisfying every single time. If Hateful Eight doesn't have a massive violent shootout I'm going to be very disappointed

I have to say I've never known someone to not like Starship Troopers before, that's a first

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens 8/10 To be sure, the whole presentation is great and the whole thing does feel like a Star Wars. The live action special effects (mainly the puppets) are very plesant to look at, to the point that the few characters in CGI are kind of an odd note. To be honest the only thing I disliked about the presentation is the music score, which I found kinda forgettable. The fact that the plot is basically a patchwork of many story elements from the original trilogy is something that many people have noted before me and I concur, althought I didn't care much about that while watching the movie, save for some moments (I'm getting really tired of the planetary superweapon cliché and I do hope the Starkiller base won't be rebuilt in any capacity in the next episodes). I'll admit however that the people who dislike The Force awakens for that are totally justified. For me, the greatest negative point of the movie is the protagonist, Rey. And I wouldn't be pissed about her that much if she weren't, again, the protagonist of the whole thing, so I spent much of my sitting watching her and her exploits. In short, the girl is a fucking Mary Sue to ludricrous levels, to the point that the first thing I said to my friends after finishing watching the film was, and I quote, "that girl is what Star Wars fan fiction writers fap to". Let's count the different ways, shall we? 1) She has a pretty depressing backstory and a present rough life that are supposed to arise sympathy from the audience 2) She is very quick to befriend people (and droids) and is very loyal to them 3) Whoever meets her likes her a big deal, and the people who don't (or simply misthreat her) are sooner or later revealed to be horrible people or downright villains 4) She doesn't think of herself as important or worthy 5) Given the setting we are in, her abilities verge on messianic proportions. To be more precise (and, for fuck's sake, not mentioning every time what she does simply works because it simply does) : [sp]- She knows how to fly the Millenium Falcon seconds after getting aboard, and apparently know how it works far better than Han Solo, whom, aside from being its owners for years, is a seasoned smuggler - She can resist a Force mind rape without experiencing the Force in the past or having recived any kind of training in its usage - After being subjected to a given Force power (a power who requires years of training to be used effectively), she immediately knows how to use it effectively, even against a more seasoned Force user than her - Seconds after putting a lighstaber in her hand, she knows how to swing it without any problem and go toe to toe with, again, a more seasoned practicioneer and beat him to a standstill (and no, being able to use a metal staff isn't the same as being able to handle a lightsaber without chopping yourself up)[/sp] The argument that she can do what she does in the movie because "she's strong in the Force" rings a bit hollow when one considers that both Luke and Anakin Skywalker had to eat some humility before being able to defeat their enemies in their respective trilogy, and they both had a very strong and natural affinity with the Force Another character who pissed me off was Captain Phasma, because, frankly, casting Gwendoline Christie for a handful of lines and becoming a butt monkey in her last appearence in the movie is a fucking waste. And I honestly don't give a flying fuck about the whole "but she'll have a bigger role in the next movie": I'm watching THIS movie NOW and here the character sucks (moreso than Boba Fett, because at the very least he achieved SOMETHING in The Empire strikes back and looked intimidating by the ending credits) So yes, I'd advise people to go watch The Force awakens, althought I hope they'll improve some elements in time for the next two movies If I can quote my two favorite scenes from the whole film, the first is when [sp]Kylo Ren is throwing a tauntrum because he dropped his ice cream cone or something, two guards waltz in and then immediately out[/sp] and the second is when this fucker shows up: [IMG]http://darksideconfidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stormtrooper-figure-featured.jpg[/IMG] Because I've been waiting for a non-Force user to best a lightsaber in combat in a Star Wars movie for years [editline]Today[/editline] Name aside, I also liked Snoke a big deal