[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;29726829]*yawn*
I don't get it, what's so special about this guy? More than half of the stuff he does, you can do yourself [albeit you need craptons of stuff, foid cards, class 3 liscence, etc.] at most Class 3 State ranges.[/QUOTE]
That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say in a long time.
"Why watch people go into space when you can just do it yourself! Of course, you need money, time, training, etc etc. "
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;29726829]*yawn*
I don't get it, what's so special about this guy? More than half of the stuff he does, you can do yourself [albeit you need craptons of stuff, foid cards, class 3 liscence, etc.] at most Class 3 State ranges.[/QUOTE]
Because he uploads good quality videos of himself shooting this shit. Most of us can't even afford any of that (and on top of that he gets to use all these weapons for free, not sure about the ammo though)
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;29708296]Flechettes are actually pretty useful for their excellent foliage penetration.[/QUOTE]
But as you saw in the mannequin many of them "keyholed", hitting the target sideways or at a steep angle because they don't fly straight but rather tumble. This results in inadequate penetration, minimizing the wounding capacity. At the same time many that do hit flying straight go in one side and out the other creating a clean hole. This is overpenetration, bad since the payload delivers some damage but not as much as it can. Flechettes tend to do one or the other with ballistic gel. If they penetrated and THEN tumbled it would have been a different story. The concept has potential but as it stands it has little advantage over conventional buckshot, which can penetrate foliage adequately as it is.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;29726829]*yawn*
I don't get it, what's so special about this guy? More than half of the stuff he does, you can do yourself [albeit you need craptons of stuff, foid cards, class 3 liscence, etc.] at most Class 3 State ranges.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
None of the payloads he's firing are NFA-regulated items. You can buy them the same way you can buy regular ammunition. They are just expensive, impractical and few people buy or sell them. The gun he's using is legal in all 50 states. FOID cards are only for Illinois residents thanks to the corrupt Chicago machine that will not recognize constitutional rights no matter what the Supreme Court says. In most of the the country (including California) you don't need any license to buy a gun unless it is controlled by the 1934 National Firearms Act (which would include full auto firearms, short barreled rifles/shotguns, suppressors, shotguns with revolving cylinders, destructive devices with a bore exceeding .5 inches wide excluding shotguns, "gadget guns" and Any Other Weapon which refers to a select number of unconventional firearms such as flare pistols fitted with adapters for live ammunition). If you do buy such a weapon you don't get a license, you buy a 200$ tax stamp from the BATF (and yes it is an actual stamp) that you put on your paperwork for that gun and ta-daa it is legal. Regular rifles, pistols and shotguns can be bought upon successfully passing a background check and filling out a form 4473 all of which takes a mere 2-5 minutes and you don't even need to do that if you buy from a private seller.
States have their own laws which can prohibit certain guns and munitions (I think you can't get Dragon's Breath or Flechettes in CA) and many ranges restrict what guns/ammo you can shoot there. But assuming you live in any one of most states there would be nothing stopping you from buying a shitty 887 and firing overpriced gimmick ammo out of it, nearly burning your own property down in the process.
[QUOTE=lorden;29711763]Even though it looks incredibly devastating on a mannequin, on a real person birdshot is highly unlikely to cause any major damage, unless you're at very close range they would probably not penetrate your clothing/skin or penetrate a very tiny amount, akin to getting hit with a massive amount of BBs at once.
It'd hurt like hell, but in all honesty it's just wasted space in the cartridge since the buckshot is what's actually going to be doing the damage.[/QUOTE]
Half-true. Catching birdshot isn't like catching airsoft BBs. Bird does penetrate clothing and skin. It does not reliably penetrate deep enough into the body to cause severe organ trauma, making it unsuitable for serious defensive use against a human-sized target. But if you catch a full load of birdshot point blank it won't just hurt, you'll be in a hospital for a long time. That lawyer that Dick Cheney shot caught a full shell of birdshot in the face and made a slow but full recovery. On the other hand the matter isn't 100% consistent since a person wounded by birdshot can still bleed out and die, rendering it a poor choice as a less-than-lethal ammunition. So it's dangerous enough to not be nonlethal, but it's not potent enough to be reliable defensive ammunition. In other words there is no reason why anyone should ever be shooting birdshot or a shell containing it alongside another payload at a person.
[QUOTE=KingKombat;29705738]:technobabble:[/QUOTE]
Basically they have severe rust on key parts when brand new, they fall apart, the shot hits far from where you're actually aiming, they don't function as smoothly as other guns that cost less and there is a hunting regulation that says you can't hunt with a shotgun that holds more than 3 shells counting the one in the chamber but when fitted with a tube limiter the 887 holds 4 rendering that limiter useless for the purpose of making that gun legal to hunt with. Moreover it tends to [B]shoot when you turn the safety on and pump it[/B] which has gotten people [B]killed[/B]. And when all this came to light Remington tried to sue every gun reviewer who was honest about it.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;29723203]Oh god , I love this guy (no I'm not gay) even though he's not a real russian.How did he manage to fire that arrow , Did he use some kind of explosive shotgun round?[/QUOTE]
Probably took a regular shell, cut it up, removed the payload, kept the wad, chambered the cut up shell, positioned the base of the arrow in the wad and fired.
That arrow shotgun round... What the fuck? It [I]worked[/I]? :aaa:
[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;29704144]He should use ballistics gel dummies. :v:[/QUOTE]
he should get a high speed camera. :buddy:
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
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[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;29726829]*yawn*
I don't get it, what's so special about this guy? More than half of the stuff he does, you can do yourself [albeit you need craptons of stuff, foid cards, class 3 liscence, etc.] at most Class 3 State ranges.[/QUOTE]
Okay.
Give me a couple thousand dollars and [I]then[/I] I can do half the stuff he does.
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[quote]So i engage the safety, i open the action put one shell in, i close the action, all of these is happening while the barrel is pointing in a safe direction, as soon as i close the action it goes BANG. Dirt flying where the shot hit and cows were running. I yelled to my dad hey this thing is firing by itself and the safety was on.[/quote]
[quote]firing by itself and the safety was on[/quote]
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The gun fires when you reload it? With the safety on?
I'm sorry, but you just can't sell weapons like that.
Where is he from anyways? Is he from Russia?
I wonder what is the temperature of his shotgun after shooting these DB rounds.
Azazel
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