• Imperial and Metric systems.
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For distance and other things I use inches, meters, and miles. For human height, I use feet and inches (why would you need the precision of centimeters in human height, lol?). [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;32463490]Nah, not really. Everything besides signage would be just telling people "hey start using metric units" when they draw up blueprints or measure shit or whatever. Anybody in a technical field already has to know and use both or they're useless the moment they deal with an international client.[/QUOTE]And this. I know and can use both, because I'm not a whiny bigot who can't accept the fact that, for better or for worse, some people are different, and there's not only one way out of every problem.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32463102]For some reason imperial is found even in countries that use metric. I guess it's just cooler to say 22" screen, 24" rim, ounce of meat, pound of meat, etc. When i ask my mom when she bought an ounce of meat how much that is in grams, she doesn't actually know.[/QUOTE]It's true. Certain products such as screens and drum heads are measured in inches, but meat is still measured in kilograms here though. We also have miles, but it's scaled to fit the metric system, so one Swedish mile is 10 kilometers (~6.2 English miles).
Metric is so much better. However, in daily life i use imperial, but thats only because I'm used to it, but I also only have a general feel for length, for example I know that a mile is a fair distance that I don't like to walk, A foot is a small compact measure and inches are smaller than that, I can only guesstimate. When doing any math thought i hate Imperial. Oh and when I could switch because to me most measuements are worthles to me, at the moment, the only one that would be tough for me would be a change from miles per hour.
The great thing about metric is that it's very easily scalable. Need bigger precision? Just change the prefix to a lower one, e.g. from centimeter to millimeter. Are you measuring something huge? Don't use meters, just move the decimal place and say it in kilometers. You can do this with everything in metric and you don't have to do backwards-ass conversions, you just have to move the decimal place.
[QUOTE=J!NX;32455361]Metric I want to get a job welding but I suck at the imperial system FUCK THE IMPERIAL SYSTEM, it makes utterly no sense in modern times, it is literally useless.[/QUOTE] Why does the Imperial system make less sense now than it did a century ago? It's not useless, many discoveries and inventions were made with the Imperial system. [editline]25th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=rosthouse;32455730]I don't think so. What if you aren't exactly 6 feet? Like 6 feet and 12 inches. How do you say that?[/QUOTE] 7 foot.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;32460989]You have way too many subjective opinions in your arguments. We don't say "KILOGRAMS" we say "kilo", because people know what the fuck your talking about. To me measuring height with the imperial system simply seems totally wrong (and plain weird), but I understand that it's something you grew up with, and thus the metric system sounds like shit to you, when you use it.[/QUOTE] Again, because you are in a country where the English is second language, normal English conduct won't make 100% sense to you. You may go to England and not know what we talk about at all.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32469428]Again, because you are in a country where the English is second language, normal English conduct won't make 100% sense to you. You may go to England and not know what we talk about at all.[/QUOTE] "I weigh x kilos" fits into a conversation much more easily then "I am x stone x", or at least it does with a Kent accent. Same with "I'm x point x metres" as opposed to "x foot x".
[QUOTE=Terminutter;32469479]"I weigh x kilos" fits into a conversation much more easily then "I am x stone x", or at least it does with a Kent accent. Same with "I'm x point x metres" as opposed to "x foot x".[/QUOTE] someone weighs "9 and a half stone" someone is "6 foot 4" Also Kent doesn't really have an accent at all. :>
Everywhere has an accent, it's just that we enounciate everything so clearly that it's bland as fuck. Maybe that's why metric fits in? :v:
I'm horrible at measurements in general, but the Metric system is by far superior in every way.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;32469538]Everywhere has an accent, it's just that we enounciate everything so clearly that it's bland as fuck. Maybe that's why metric fits in? :v:[/QUOTE] Well I don't really know what accent it is then. It isn't Cockney or Cornish so maybe it's just normal bland english?
I prefer metric.
Stop doing that, this isn't a fast thread.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32469428]Again, because you are in a country where the English is second language, normal English conduct won't make 100% sense to you. You may go to England and not know what we talk about at all.[/QUOTE] Well, that's how we do it here in Denmark, I don't see why you should bring England into the mix. I understand british english fairly well, anyway, as long as the person is talking somewhat coherent, and not calling a cell phone "a humpity dumpity dippididut". Talked with an english person just yesterday, wasn't a problem.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32463102]For some reason imperial is found even in countries that use metric. I guess it's just cooler to say 22" screen, 24" rim, ounce of meat, pound of meat, etc. When i ask my mom when she bought an ounce of meat how much that is in grams, she doesn't actually know.[/QUOTE] Yeah, here in sweden one inch seems to be one "tum (thumb)". We still use it for screens and some construction for some reason [editline]25th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AK'z;32469527]someone weighs "9 and a half stone" someone is "6 foot 4"[/QUOTE] I weigh 52 kilos. I'm 1 and 70 tall.
If the US really wanted they could switch overnight. They can do what Sweden did in 1967 when switching from left hand traffic to right hand traffic. It was done overnight. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr.T;32470616]If the US really wanted they could switch overnight. They can do what Sweden did in 1967 when switching from left hand traffic to right hand traffic. It was done overnight. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H[/url][/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with traffic, you can't compare them. I do think that Metric is a better system, though there are exceptions, such as "quarter pounder" or "5 foot, 6 inches", stuff like that. Feet are also good for smaller measurements as well. I think that attempting a full conversion in the United States at this point, would be nothing short of a logistical nightmare. It'll cost tons (not good for our economic situation) and also likely result in traffic accidents from people who fall back to old habits and mistake "100 km/h" for "100 mph". It's probably something we should do on a generational switch, teaching metric to schoolkids and doing the majority of the switching when they've grow up.
[QUOTE=Mr.T;32470616]If the US really wanted they could switch overnight. They can do what Sweden did in 1967 when switching from left hand traffic to right hand traffic. It was done overnight. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H[/url][/QUOTE] Hey Britain, [I]"hint hint, nudge nudge"[/I].
[QUOTE=Van-man;32470785]Hey Britain, [I]"hint hint, nudge nudge"[/I].[/QUOTE] GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY NORSEMAN
[QUOTE=Eric95;32470396] I'm 1 and 70 tall.[/QUOTE] That is poor.
I don't really understand how you can argue what sounds more correct, when that is really, really subjective. Here in norway, we tell our height in centimeters, like "How tall are you? I'm one-eightyseven", for 187 centimeters, and this is normal. If you came here saying you were five foot four or whatever, noone would be able to convert that to the norm of centimeters, so we really would not be able to understand how tall you were. Counter-arguing this with "Your country dont speak english as your first language!" is just stupid, as we learn english from the first grade, and most of the teens here now can speak english really well. I can easily communicate with anyone who speaks english, but since the norm in Norway is to use the metric system we won't naturally understand the imperial system. I am for the metric system purely because it makes a lot more sense and is consistent.
Metric by far, the logicness of it and easy usage of calculating in 10 makes it easy and enjoyable to work with. Here's an example. Think of kilo as 1000, 1000 metres = 1[b]kilo[/b]metre(s). 1000 gram = 1kilogram. Awesome right. Volume, 100cl = 1 litre 1000ml = 1 litre. Last time we used something like the imperial system in Denmark was back in the medieval times so translating your terms sounds so age old and weird, like feet and miles, it was used 500 years ago until late 1800's when metric came. 1 of the main problems i think there is is that english being the 2nd language in most parts of the world is that the native people of the language wont give fully up on their imperial measurement system (because it's so deeprooted in them) would unite the world and we wouldn't have 2 different systems to measure volume, length and weight. goddayum english lol. The US needs to convert else they're falling behind even more in a world of competitiveness and globalization. If it wasn't because the US didn't convert COMPLETELY to metric system throughout the 60's and 70's we wouldn't have to ask 3-4 times what is that in kilos and what is this in centimeters all the time just because the english kept their age old outdated measuring tools. My 10 bucks on the issue
Metric is a fine system, and it's so fucking easy. I mean, it's [I]really, really,[/I] easy. I use imperial for just shit like pounds and height and length, but I never really use metric. Metric is easy mode, I want my hard mode thank you very much.
[QUOTE=Protection;32471389]Metric is a fine system, and it's so fucking easy. I mean, it's [I]really, really,[/I] easy. I use imperial for just shit like pounds and height and length, but I never really use metric. Metric is easy mode, I want my hard mode thank you very much.[/QUOTE] Brofist. Hectors are the way to go.
It's stupid to use imperial, because it means you're gonna have to learn two systems and even mix them. You imperial users seem to forget that pretty much every unit used aside length and mass have no imperial counterparts. Like seconds, voltage, pressure, energy, current, force, effect, and much much more are all metric units and relate to one and another. For example... [I]Effect[/I] is measured in [I]Watts[/I] all over the world (even in imperial countries). 1 Watt = 1 J/s. 1 J = 1 Nm / s 1 Nm / s = 1 ([B]kg[/B] * [B]m[/B]²) / s^3 That's kilogrammes and metres. SI units! [U]Why mix?[/U] Just switch to SI already.
[QUOTE=sltungle;32455296]'It sounds better' is NOT an acceptable, or even half-way decent argument.[/QUOTE] I'd like a pint please I'd like zero point five six eight liters of beer please [editline]25th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rad McCool;32471648]It's stupid to use imperial, because it means you're gonna have to learn two systems and even mix them. You imperial users seem to forget that pretty much every unit used aside length and mass have no imperial counterparts. Like seconds, voltage, pressure, energy, current, force, effect, and much much more are all metric units and relate to one and another. For example... [I]Effect[/I] is measured in [I]Watts[/I] all over the world (even in imperial countries). 1 Watt = 1 J/s. 1 J = 1 Nm / s 1 Nm / s = 1 ([B]kg[/B] * [B]m[/B]²) / s^3 That's kilogrammes and metres. SI units! [U]Why mix?[/U] Just switch to SI already.[/QUOTE] many people grew up with imperial whilst some grew up with metric like I have no idea how fast a car is going in kph but i know in mph, and I have no idea how big something is in feet but I know in meters
[QUOTE=Eltro102;32472247]I'd like a pint please I'd like zero point five six eight liters of beer please [/QUOTE] You could just say "I'd like a large glass of beer please"?
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;32473292]You could just say "I'd like a large glass of beer please"?[/QUOTE] You people don't get it do you?
[QUOTE=AK'z;32473409]You people don't get it do you?[/QUOTE] Try using only metric for a week. Seriously, try it. It will change your view on it. I have tried to use imperial for a day, it was a horrible experience. It doesn't work vice-versa.
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;32473494]Try using only metric for a week. Seriously, try it. I have tried to use imperial for a day, it was a horrible experience.[/QUOTE] "The speed limit is 30 miles an hour. Now, in kilometres per hour that's erm, well divide by five and multiply by eight you get oh hello officer why as a matter of fact I don't know how fast I was going".
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