[QUOTE=butre;48596273]glocks have crap triggers anyway. I love glocks but the triggers are not their strong point[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but you can change stuff out.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48596261]Which shooting last week? The one in VA?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It happened about 30 mins away from where I live. The Chamber of Commerce rep was a customer of ours at work.
[QUOTE=butre;48596273]glocks have crap triggers anyway. I love glocks but the triggers are not their strong point[/QUOTE]
Everyone rags on Glock triggers, but having shot M&Ps, and after fondling a bunch of Custom Shop M&Ps at SHOT, IMHO they are worse. The custom shop M&P triggers felt like Glock standard triggers, while regular M&Ps are worse; not really surprising considering their evolution from the Glock clone S&W Sigma.
But if the best your custom shop can do is make them feel Glock-like, I don't think they are worth the increased price, so just drop in one of the many aftermarket trigger groups.
Or spend $850 for a Lone Wolf Glock
[url]http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/jeremy-s/gun-review-the-0-glock-glock-or-lone-wolf-limited-edition-2014/[/url]
[QUOTE=mastoner20;48596323]Yeah. It happened about 30 mins away from where I live. The Chamber of Commerce rep was a customer of ours at work.[/QUOTE]
Small fucking world. Has she said anything that you know of other than what's being covered in the media?
I've never met her, and we haven't pried. We actually canceled service last week to not step on anyones toes. I don't know, I just know she's been a real trooper and all-in-all is in good spirits. A lot of us are starting to get antsy about trying to see if we can change our employee handbook and allow us to CC if we have permits. No clue if it will look or not.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;48596655]Everyone rags on Glock triggers, but having shot M&Ps, and after fondling a bunch of Custom Shop M&Ps at SHOT, IMHO they are worse. The custom shop M&P triggers felt like Glock standard triggers, while regular M&Ps are worse; not really surprising considering their evolution from the Glock clone S&W Sigma.
But if the best your custom shop can do is make them feel Glock-like, I don't think they are worth the increased price, so just drop in one of the many aftermarket trigger groups.
Or spend $850 for a Lone Wolf Glock
[url]http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/jeremy-s/gun-review-the-0-glock-glock-or-lone-wolf-limited-edition-2014/[/url][/QUOTE]
The problem with M&P triggers is that it is literally 2 pieces that pivot before it breaks. This makes having consistent pulls difficult. XD and Glock use a single piece trigger with a little toggle so the pull isn't as shit.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;48597068]I've never met her, and we haven't pried. We actually canceled service last week to not step on anyones toes. I don't know, I just know she's been a real trooper and all-in-all is in good spirits. A lot of us are starting to get antsy about trying to see if we can change our employee handbook and allow us to CC if we have permits. No clue if it will look or not.[/QUOTE]
Most companies don't let you CC. It becomes a liability because they can be sued if you shoot someone and if you get shot the company can also be sued. I think OSHA is played into that somehow too, but I could be wrong.
So I was considering building an AR platform rifle in the nearish future, I just can't decide on .308 or 5.56/.223.
I want a hunting rifle, but it would also be nice to have a wal-mart round like the 5.56 is.
Any choice though, I was still planning on getting an 80% lower from this site.
[url]http://www.polymer80.com[/url]
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48599912]So I was considering building an AR platform rifle in the nearish future, I just can't decide on .308 or 5.56/.223.
I want a hunting rifle, but it would also be nice to have a wal-mart round like the 5.56 is.
Any choice though, I was still planning on getting an 80% lower from this site.
[url]http://www.polymer80.com[/url][/QUOTE]
I would not trust a poly lower for 308. You limit your hunting options too if you go with a 5.56 build also. Just build a 308 and reload the casings. If you want to go plinking, there are plenty of AR15s that are around $500 to fill that need.
Currently, I find that the only reason to build your own rifle is if you are using a non military caliber like the 6.5 Grendal, 6.8 SPC, or the 300 Blackout.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48599912]So I was considering building an AR platform rifle in the nearish future, I just can't decide on .308 or 5.56/.223.
I want a hunting rifle, but it would also be nice to have a wal-mart round like the 5.56 is.
Any choice though, I was still planning on getting an 80% lower from this site.
[url]http://www.polymer80.com[/url][/QUOTE]
7.62x51 is a good, cheap round with loads of power. 5.56 is cheaper but considerably less powerful, and less useful for larger game animals if hunting is your thing. If you want to plink, go with 5.56. A 7.62 AR is considerably more expensive to build though, cheapest complete upper receiver I saw on Brownells was $750, while a reasonably good 5.56 upper can be had for $250-350.
There's more interchangeability with the 5.56, as most custom caliber uppers are for the smaller 5.56 lower receiver.
Also I'd steer far away from polymer lowers.
They may be cheap and light, but they still need to handle a lot of stress from the upper, which would be several times more stress in a 7.62 platform as those have 4-5X more recoil than 5.56. There are complete aluminum lowers available for under $100, sometimes as low as $50. I prefer steel, but aluminum is far better than polymer.
[QUOTE=zombini;48600450]7.62x51 is a good, cheap round with loads of power. 5.56 is cheaper but considerably less powerful, and less useful for larger game animals if hunting is your thing. If you want to plink, go with 5.56. A 7.62 AR is considerably more expensive to build though, cheapest complete upper receiver I saw on Brownells was $750, while a reasonably good 5.56 upper can be had for $250-350.
There's more interchangeability with the 5.56, as most custom caliber uppers are for the smaller 5.56 lower receiver.
Also I'd steer far away from polymer lowers.
They may be cheap and light, but they still need to handle a lot of stress from the upper, which would be several times more stress in a 7.62 platform as those have 4-5X more recoil than 5.56. There are complete aluminum lowers available for under $100, sometimes as low as $50. I prefer steel, but aluminum is far better than polymer.[/QUOTE]
Would one of those one-time use jigs polymer80 sells be useful for doing another 80%, like steel or aluminum like you're saying? That and would the drill bits that come with it still work on steel or aluminum?
Also lol I feel retarded, I thought the "polymer" of it was just the jig :v:
I needed to read what it all was.
I found some .308 uppers that are a bit cheaper than what you said.
[url]http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-10/ar-10-upper-assemblies.html[/url]
I personally like this one because I'd like to slap a carry handle back sight on it.
[img]http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/8/18308.jpg[/img]
[url]http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-10/ar-10-upper-assemblies/psa-pa10-18-mid-length-stainless-steel-308-win-1-10-upper-w-bcg-and-charging-handle.html[/url]
[B]^^$500^^[/B]
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48599912]So I was considering building an AR platform rifle in the nearish future, I just can't decide on .308 or 5.56/.223.
I want a hunting rifle, but it would also be nice to have a wal-mart round like the 5.56 is.
Any choice though, I was still planning on getting an 80% lower from this site.
[url]http://www.polymer80.com[/url][/QUOTE]
A .223/5.56 AR is going to be more easily built and accessorized than an AR-10 variant, not to mention that mags will be cheaper.
If you build a .223 AR, there are many other calibers that you can convert to for more specific applications.
You can buy aluminum lowers completed for $80, don't cheap out and get polymer just to save a few $$$
.300 BLK comes to mind for hunting, and would probably be the easiest conversion; 6.5 Grendel is a great round, but the ammo isn't exactly cheap and neither is getting converted to it. Don't bother with 6.8 SPC.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;48602569]A .223/5.56 AR is going to be more easily built and accessorized than an AR-10 variant, not to mention that mags will be cheaper.
If you build a .223 AR, there are many other calibers that you can convert to for more specific applications.
You can buy aluminum lowers completed for $80, don't cheap out and get polymer just to save a few $$$
.300 BLK comes to mind for hunting, and would probably be the easiest conversion; 6.5 Grendel is a great round, but the ammo isn't exactly cheap and neither is getting converted to it. Don't bother with 6.8 SPC.[/QUOTE]
lol I had a retarded slip and thought the jig itself was just the thing made from polymer. After hearing this I don't want a polymer receiver.
Conversion does sound like an excellent idea for the AR-15, especially considering regular 5.56 mags can be used with 300 blk.
there's only one polymer lower worth a damn and it's the cav-15 and its every bit as expensive as an aluminum one
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48602596]lol I had a retarded slip and thought the jig itself was just the thing made from polymer. After hearing this I don't want a polymer receiver.
Conversion does sound like an excellent idea for the AR-15, especially considering regular 5.56 mags can be used with 300 blk.[/QUOTE]
Plus you can use really powerful big bore rounds like .450 Bushmaster and .458 SOCOM with minimal modification(aside from an upper receiver) in an AR-15.
Im going to the range with my girlfriend and her dad saturday, im excited.
A coworker asked me for advice on a CCW. She wears sun dresses frequently and wants a 9mm in a thigh holster. I recommended an LC9. Are there any others I should mention?
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48606754]A coworker asked me for advice on a CCW. She wears sun dresses frequently and wants a 9mm in a thigh holster. I recommended an LC9. Are there any others I should mention?[/QUOTE]
AMT Automag
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;48607876]AMT Automag[/QUOTE]
Right now we've boiled it down to an Automag or a Mars Automatic. But reliability may be a concern for the latter.
[quote=Mars Automatic Wiki Page]The Mars Automatic Pistol was rejected by the British War Office as a possible replacement for the Webley & Scott Revolver, then in service with the British Army, because of the unacceptably large recoil, considerable muzzle flash, and mechanical complexity. The captain in charge of tests of the Mars at the Naval Gunnery School in 1902 observed, "No one who fired once with the pistol wished to shoot it again". Shooting the Mars pistol was described as "singularly unpleasant and alarming".[/quote]
lmao
Sounds like the FBI with 10mm
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;48609568]Sounds like the FBI with 10mm[/QUOTE]
Underwood 10mm out of a G20 w/ 22lb spring really only feels as punchy as .45 ACP +P out of a G21
Unpleasant and alarming was the S&W .460 XVR, the .500 was pleasant by comparison.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;48609743]Underwood 10mm out of a G20 is really only as punchy as .45 ACP +P
Unpleasant and alarming was the S&W .460 XVR, the .500 was pleasant by comparison.[/QUOTE]
It's like the difference between a 50 cal Desert Eagle and the 44 mag version. The 44 kicks harder than the 50.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;48609753]It's like the difference between a 50 cal Desert Eagle and the 44 mag version. The 44 kicks harder than the 50.[/QUOTE]
What is? .460 to .500 or .45 to 10mm?
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;48608057]lmao[/QUOTE]
just think how it is for the guy on the other end
[QUOTE=MAC21500;48609935]What is? .460 to .500 or .45 to 10mm?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, didn't specify. The .460 to the .500.
Never shot a 10mm though. Can't say much about it other than a lot of companies don't load the cartridge to it's full potential. A good reloading cartridge anyway.
With how a group is going commercial with flamethrowers, I'm starting to wonder if something similar could be done with handgrenades and RPGs. I did a bit of research, and their seems to be quiet a conflict of reasons regarding GCA 68' and it's supposed restrictions on Destructive Devices.
Anyone got any clue on how this would work and all?
Here is a take on the grenade part. [url]http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/weapons-firearms/is-it-legal-own-hand-grenades[/url]
Made a slight oopsy packing up to leave the range today.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/38wNsFQ.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/w2v6s1L.jpg[/t]
Barrel may have still been a teensy bit hot
[QUOTE=cardfan212;46927758][t]http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34238144/Guns/family%20portrait%201.jpg[/t]
Family picture to help get the ball rolling.
1935 Tula Mosin
Stoeger Uplander 12ga
Zastava ABM[/QUOTE]
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