Firearms XII; Because Merica - General

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48855516]I went to go shoot it today again. I sorta needed confirmation it was fixed. Once bitten twice shy and that sort of thing. Well not only did I get BTF on 115gr white box and 124gr whincester but now I'm getting light strikes. I got one on the 115gr and another two on the 124gr And they both ejected into my face. So I'm assuming the light strikes are due to my weak RSA but the BTF issue is back. I took it back to the gun store and they're going to ship it back to Glock. Maybe they'll fix it this time.[/QUOTE] It could deal with how your gripping the gun. Think along the same lines as limp wristing but instead of stove pipes you're getting brass to the face. Of course you are using shit ammo, and it could just be the inconsistencies between rounds. See of it does the same with Federal or PMC.

[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;48855572]It could deal with how your gripping the gun. Think along the same lines as limp wristing but instead of stove pipes you're getting brass to the face. Of course you are using shit ammo, and it could just be the inconsistencies between rounds. See of it does the same with Federal or PMC.[/QUOTE] I tried a few different brands. No Federal or PMC. Winchester, UMC and Hornady I have used though. I don't think it's my grip I've tried to be very aware of how I grip the gun because that's the number one most common suggestion I'm given but I don't think it's my grip. What are in your opinions the best ammunition manufacturer in general terms?

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48855608]I tried a few different brands. No Federal or PMC. Winchester, UMC and Hornady I have used though. I don't think it's my grip I've tried to be very aware of how I grip the gun because that's the number one most common suggestion I'm given but I don't think it's my grip. What are in your opinions the best ammunition manufacturer in general terms?[/QUOTE] When we're talking range ammo I generally go with American Eagle (Federal), Fiocchi, PMC, and occasionally magtech. From my experience winchester white box and remington umc burn very dirty for the price that you're paying for them, and they have a much more varied degree of inconsistencies from other manufacturers. Granted that's with their range ammo, Winchester hunting and self defense isn't too bad. Neither is Remington though I'd Personally never use their self defense ammo. Federal has always been the most consistent for me, followed closely by fiocchi. Granted I only live 30 minutes away from where all federal ammo is made so I can get some stellar deals on the stuff too.

There's a SMLE mk III from 1943 at the local gun store for $300. Rip-off or not? I took a look at it and the muzzle looked a bit worn down, and the metal needs a good wipe down but the guy at the counter said that the barrel is good and it works fine. The only two reasons that I didn't walk out with it right then is that .303 is expensive and I kinda thought $300 was high for a WWII surplus rifle.

[QUOTE=zombini;48861080]There's a SMLE mk III from 1943 at the local gun store for $300. Rip-off or not? I took a look at it and the muzzle looked a bit worn down, and the metal needs a good wipe down but the guy at the counter said that the barrel is good and it works fine. The only two reasons that I didn't walk out with it right then is that .303 is expensive and I kinda thought $300 was high for a WWII surplus rifle.[/QUOTE] A nice, matched SMLE is worth way more than $300. Just remember that a gun store probably knows that. Do some research on SMLEs and check it out in the store. My 1918 was a tack driver and by far one of the most comfortable bolt actions I've ever shot.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48861142]A nice, matched SMLE is worth way more than $300. Just remember that a gun store probably knows that. Do some research on SMLEs and check it out in the store. My 1918 was a tack driver and by far one of the most comfortable bolt actions I've ever shot.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I'm heading back to return some electronic hearing protection that I bought (shit didn't work at all out of the box, you get what you pay for, etc) so I'll take another look unless it isn't there anymore. I should note that the stock goes all the way up to the barrel, in case anyone knows more than I do. If it's worth it, i'll buy it just to put on the wall if I decide to not shoot it.

Take some pictures when you get there if you haven't left yet. Check that the serial number on the bolt matches what's on the receiver.

[QUOTE=zombini;48861080]There's a SMLE mk III from 1943 at the local gun store for $300. Rip-off or not? I took a look at it and the muzzle looked a bit worn down, and the metal needs a good wipe down but the guy at the counter said that the barrel is good and it works fine. The only two reasons that I didn't walk out with it right then is that .303 is expensive and I kinda thought $300 was high for a WWII surplus rifle.[/QUOTE] Poor Mans crown check: Take a .303 round and stick the bullet in the muzzle. If you can still see bullet the bores good near the barrel, if not the barrels shot. I'd really be more concerned with throat erosion, and that is kinda hard to check without a throat gauge. Cordite is absolute hell on barrels. Next time you see it stick a flashlight into the chamber and try and look at the first portion of the barrel. If it looks like melted lines that means it's toast. If not the throat could still be bad but its still shootable.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48862137]Take some pictures when you get there if you haven't left yet. Check that the serial number on the bolt matches what's on the receiver.[/QUOTE] It's probably going to be tomorrow if I ever do go. I'll take some photos of it to show you guys. I really want this and I hope nobody picks it up before then. [editline]8th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=UncleJimmema;48862286]Poor Mans crown check: Take a .303 round and stick the bullet in the muzzle. If you can still see bullet the bores good near the barrel, if not the barrels shot. I'd really be more concerned with throat erosion, and that is kinda hard to check without a throat gauge. Cordite is absolute hell on barrels. Next time you see it stick a flashlight into the chamber and try and look at the first portion of the barrel. If it looks like melted lines that means it's toast. If not the throat could still be bad but its still shootable.[/QUOTE] Even if the barrel is bad, I may get it for historical purposes. If I can find a good barrel on a scrapped one, I'd get that and swap them. Probably a bad idea and ultimately not worth it, but that's a contingency if it's bad.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48855608]I tried a few different brands. No Federal or PMC. Winchester, UMC and Hornady I have used though. I don't think it's my grip I've tried to be very aware of how I grip the gun because that's the number one most common suggestion I'm given but I don't think it's my grip. What are in your opinions the best ammunition manufacturer in general terms?[/QUOTE] For handguns, I normally shoot white box FMJs, but that's me. For rifles, I've always sworn by Remington Core-lokt. I think they introduced a soft-core handgun round as well, but I've never tried it. But I'm also not shooting the same calibers or gun types since I don't care for Glocks much as a personal preference. I would suggest lighter bullets or even +Ps and seeing if you still get BTF and light strikes. If you're consistently getting light strikes, I would see if the firing pin is being reset properly and if the spring tension is correct. Also, similarly I found this forum on the subject as well: [url]http://glock.pro/glock-tech-warranty/6401-glock-26-gen-3-attempting-fix-btf.html[/url]

I've avoided Winchester White Box because the local reloading company was still cheaper than them. Even then, the white box is the same price or higher than Seller & Bellot, Magtec, or even Herters in my area. So no reason to buy it.

I buy it because at $30 for a 50-round 230 gr ACP, it's not too bad in my area and I've personally never had any issues with it in my Colt. But that being said, a 50-round box will last me six months since I so rarely actually shoot that particular gun.

[QUOTE=zombini;48862320]It's probably going to be tomorrow if I ever do go. I'll take some photos of it to show you guys. I really want this and I hope nobody picks it up before then. [editline]8th October 2015[/editline] Even if the barrel is bad, I may get it for historical purposes. If I can find a good barrel on a scrapped one, I'd get that and swap them. Probably a bad idea and ultimately not worth it, but that's a contingency if it's bad.[/QUOTE] Changing Enfield barrels is difficult. Still, even deactivated SMLEs sell for $2-300. It'd make a good wall hanger if it's not safe to shoot.

white box is trash tbh tula burns cleaner

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48845423]I've reached that moment in time where I am stuck between buying a car or a gun whenever I get out of boot camp... To be honest, I probably won't need a car for a few more months, since I'll be going back for advanced training and A School.[/QUOTE] Not to start any shit, but don't go around wasting your money on useless shit out of basic. Get something you need and stick with it. You're gun is just going to sit in the armory. I would take this time to save up money and just take advantage of all the free/community shit you can do on base. I see far to many people who get in to A School / AIT and blow their money on stuff they can't even take with them to their next duty station. I kid you not, people get off the bus go into the BX and walk about with TV's, Xbox's, PS4, new cell phones, and then bitch about being broke.

[QUOTE=MR-X;48862820]Not to start any shit, but don't go around wasting your money on useless shit out of basic. Get something you need and stick with it. You're gun is just going to sit in the armory. I would take this time to save up money and just take advantage of all the free/community shit you can do on base. I see far to many people who get in to A School / AIT and blow their money on stuff they can't even take with them to their next duty station. I kid you not, people get off the bus go into the BX and walk about with TV's, Xbox's, PS4, new cell phones, and then bitch about being broke.[/QUOTE] I knew a guy in AIT who dropped $300 dollars on a tablet at the beginning, then turned around and sold it to a guy from one of the new, incoming classes for $500. There was a lot of that going on. This one motherfucker who was a hold-over waiting to go to airborne school sold me a grocery bag with maybe 10-15 of those detergent pods for $10. Why did I let him rip me off like, you might ask? Well, our class got our weekend passes taken away because some dumb-fucks decided to buy shit from the vending machine when we'd been directly ordered not to, and I was out of detergent.

I went shooting again yesterday. Couldn't recreate any issues with my Bodyguard, everything was fine. Going to contribute it to a ammo issue. Blazer Brass tend to not be consistent loads resulting in some funky stuff to happen sometimes. But with Hornady and Lawman it worked as advertised. No BTF by the way. I'm glad one of my handguns works. Also my KSG hates low-brass. It's a high brass only shotgun really. I heard someone that low-"brass" shells that use steel rims instead of real brass cause a problem too and that may be so since all the stuff I have trouble shooting is low-steel. Heat issues, expansion issues which result in shitty ejection. Also that shotgun really needs a good shoulder-pad or something it kills my shoulder. I always forget to bring something and end up folding up foam mats or freezer bags and putting them between my shoulder and the butt because it just recoils so hard. In a Self-Defense situation it wouldn't matter but just firing box after box of shells at the range it destroys your shoulder man. While I'm on the subject why are ammunition manufacturer so vague on their boxes? Like half the time I struggle to find how many rounds are in a box, much less what grain bullet it is or god forbid what kind of powder load is in them. And with shotgun shells it never tells you if it's high brass, low brass or any other details that I look for when I buy shells. I always have to open the box and peak which I hate doing.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48864576]I went shooting again yesterday. Couldn't recreate any issues with my Bodyguard, everything was fine. Going to contribute it to a ammo issue. Blazer Brass tend to not be consistent loads resulting in some funky stuff to happen sometimes. But with Hornady and Lawman it worked as advertised. No BTF by the way. I'm glad one of my handguns works. Also my KSG hates low-brass. It's a high brass only shotgun really. I heard someone that low-"brass" shells that use steel rims instead of real brass cause a problem too and that may be so since all the stuff I have trouble shooting is low-steel. Heat issues, expansion issues which result in shitty ejection. Also that shotgun really needs a good shoulder-pad or something it kills my shoulder. I always forget to bring something and end up folding up foam mats or freezer bags and putting them between my shoulder and the butt because it just recoils so hard. In a Self-Defense situation it wouldn't matter but just firing box after box of shells at the range it destroys your shoulder man. While I'm on the subject why are ammunition manufacturer so vague on their boxes? Like half the time I struggle to find how many rounds are in a box, much less what grain bullet it is or god forbid what kind of powder load is in them. And with shotgun shells it never tells you if it's high brass, low brass or any other details that I look for when I buy shells. I always have to open the box and peak which I hate doing.[/QUOTE] High brass vs low brass has no intrinsic difference in the powder load or shot type, so a functioning shotgun shouldn't have issues with one and not the other. If you're having low brass stick in the breech and not want to extract, you probably just need to polish the chamber. My Winchester 1887 repro liked to jam up a lot on low-brass birdshot, so I took a 12ga bore brush, wrapped it in steel wool, chucked it up in a cordless drill, and ran it through the chamber right up to the forcing cone. Polished it shiny-smooth and now the gun works fine. I've heard that modern Remingtons have had this issue as well. If that's the issue, give it a try. A pump-action shotgun of all things shouldn't be picky about ammo.

It seems to be a pretty universal opinion among KSG owners though that the low-steel shitty target ammunition likes to bind up. It's like that in a lot of shotguns too, most notably semi-automatic shotguns. It shouldn't be as big a deal with pump actions but the KSG wouldn't be the first to get sticky extraction with garbage shells. I know there is no difference in charge or shot between low and high. But high brass aids in smooth extraction regardless the shotgun. The KSG in particular though is picky and polishing the chamber may not hurt but from what I've read on the KelTec forums the benefit isn't going to fix the issue outright. The low-steel rimmed shells will still bind on occasion. If I want to shoot that stuff it'll be shot out of my Mossberg 500. But I'm comfortable only shooting high-brass shells through my KSG for reliable function. I think that's where it feels most at home anyway, I don't think anyone really expected to use their KSG to shoot Pheasants or anything. It's primarily a combat shotgun so the intended market would likely be using high brass defensive loads like slugs and buckshot.

Is it practical to use an assault rifle as a by-your-bed defense weapon in any case?

[QUOTE=Aetherisch;48864892]Is it practical to use an assault rifle as a by-your-bed defense weapon in any case?[/QUOTE] Any gun is practical if you have room and time to maneuver it.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48864576] While I'm on the subject why are ammunition manufacturer so vague on their boxes? Like half the time I struggle to find how many rounds are in a box, much less what grain bullet it is or god forbid what kind of powder load is in them. And with shotgun shells it never tells you if it's high brass, low brass or any other details that I look for when I buy shells. I always have to open the box and peak which I hate doing.[/QUOTE] You should know by now how many shells are in a box. It's simple really, all your crappy target ammo is in low brass shells to keep things cheap. Anything else like your duck, goose, and slug shells come in high brass. As for shell count, most slugs come in 5 round boxes unless otherwise stated on the box. Some duck and goose hunting loads come in larger boxes of 25. Target always comes in boxes of 25. You should know this by now. As for manufacturer's specs on the box, it's up to the company. The cheap stuff won't bother to print it because cheap. The others may do it so a person can make a semi informed decision on what to buy. Loadings don't mean shit if you are just going to tear through cheap ammo. It only matters if you are planning on hunting or finding a defense ammo that you like and using quality ammo. Many times the boxes LITERALLY names what the load is in it such as "Reduced Recoil," "Managed Recoil," or "Magnum."

It annoys me that most don't put proper cartridge dimensions on their boxes. That's what led to me buying a box of 7mm Mauser for the k98 thinking it was short for 7.92 (not knowing that it was correctly designated 8mm) I have also seen Czech surplus 7.62x25 sold as .30 Mauser (which is actually 7.63x25), which can ruin C96s by wearing out the bolt stop much faster.

[QUOTE=MR-X;48862820]Not to start any shit, but don't go around wasting your money on useless shit out of basic. Get something you need and stick with it. You're gun is just going to sit in the armory. I would take this time to save up money and just take advantage of all the free/community shit you can do on base. I see far to many people who get in to A School / AIT and blow their money on stuff they can't even take with them to their next duty station. I kid you not, people get off the bus go into the BX and walk about with TV's, Xbox's, PS4, new cell phones, and then bitch about being broke.[/QUOTE] You know, you're right. I will save my money. I can worry about everything else until all my training is done and I'm ready to join the fleet. Even then I'll probably wait for a little bit.

I decided to not buy that SMLE. I thought about it and it must have something horribly wrong with it for them to sell it for so cheap. They had a mosin last month for the same price. Plus it was a 30 min drive and I didn't want to go that far just to find out that it was unsafe to shoot.

I won't say if you made the right or wrong decision without seeing the rifle myself, but I bought a very nice 1918 Lithgow SMLE for $200 (which was stolen grrrr)

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48865922]You know, you're right. I will save my money. I can worry about everything else until all my training is done and I'm ready to join the fleet. Even then I'll probably wait for a little bit.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it is the best option. Don't be a knuckle head, I see way to many new boots come in and always complain about being broke because they wasted the dosh on silly shit. At least in AIT/ A School you're not going to be able to leave base for a while and going to likely have some type of restrictions. Plus getting a firearm is going to be tough if you are stuck on base, only certain BX's sell guns and they're far and few between. Owning a gun and maintaining it on base is a pain in the ass, you have to have it in the armory if on base and it has to be declared. You're going to be studying and all that shit most of the time and when you do get free time you got pools, community centers, bowling allies, gyms, golf courses, etc. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;48863750]I knew a guy in AIT who dropped $300 dollars on a tablet at the beginning, then turned around and sold it to a guy from one of the new, incoming classes for $500. There was a lot of that going on. This one motherfucker who was a hold-over waiting to go to airborne school sold me a grocery bag with maybe 10-15 of those detergent pods for $10. Why did I let him rip me off like, you might ask? Well, our class got our weekend passes taken away because some dumb-fucks decided to buy shit from the vending machine when we'd been directly ordered not to, and I was out of detergent.[/QUOTE] Some of the people you run into are really big scumbags. I've heard of dude stealing from each other dorms and selling the shit. My friend literally got his socks stolen.. Folks taking advantage of new people. Then you got the next level shit of dumbfucks who the stupidest shit and get the entire unit in shit, because they're to hard headed or just don't give a fuck about anyone else but themselves. Good example i got is we got idiots here to like to get DUI's and make the entire units look bad. They got a name and shame board where it lists the number of DUI's and the units who have it. So it is like a score board for who has the shittiest people.

I almost bought a used Winchester SXP Black Shadow. It was a 3", had just normal wear, and came with a turkey choke for only $275. It was tempting, but I decided against it.

It was all fine, just some wear on the finish that comes with normal use. Still locked up fine, still pumped fine.

So do you guys get a chance to let others borrow your guns at the range? I had an opportunity to let somebody use my CZ today and he liked it. It felt really good be able to show someone else other weapons without having them buy it or if they're at a range where they can't rent it.