[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49051967]you can shape glass tubes on a lathe and I don't see why you couldn't 3 axis a cube of the stuff other than it would take forever and cause you to die from airborne glass particles before it was finished[/QUOTE]
you can "cut" glass tubes on a lathe but it's just more scoring, heating, and breaking.
[editline]5th November 2015[/editline]
unless you're referring to those fancy attachments that are basically glass blowing tools attached to a lathe which again isn't machining.
fuk u
[editline]4th November 2015[/editline]
my dream
Shotguns (long guns in general) vs. handguns is a game of give and take. With the shotgun you have an advantage of power, along with a small (but larger than a pistol) margin of error when it comes to hitting your target. You do lose maneuverability and capacity however. With a hand gun you gain maneuverability and capacity at the cost of power. An AR-15 Gives you capacity and power, but hinders mobility compared to a handgun.
My personal preference is a handgun, since power doesn't mean much in a defensive situation. I'm more concerned with repeat and accurate shot placement, not a one shot stopper. I would rather have 20 opportunities to hit my target than 5-8 a standard pump shotgun has. I also live in a smaller house, where hallways are often only 6 to 10 feet long.
[QUOTE=butre;49048700]buckshot doesn't even kick that hard[/QUOTE]
It does for a tiny 50 year old woman, especially when you're shooting it out of just about the most unwieldy defensive shotgun around.
[QUOTE=butre;49051143]grinding is grinding, not machining. going at something with an angle grinder isn't machining just like going at a piece of glass with a diamond hone isn't machining.[/QUOTE]
"Here, let me get your glasses ready" *Pulls out DeWalt angle grinder*
Grinding is machining. You can machine glass with specialty tools. Machining, by definition is just removing material precisely with the aid of a machine. When you rip a piece of a plywood on a tablesaw you are machining. Machining doesn't just encompass using a Lathe, Mill and surface grinder on metal. Also, grinding doesn't imply imprecise angle grinding, there are many methods of extremely precise grinding. Grinding bits abrade rather than cut, but they do the same thing, remove material.
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[QUOTE=MAC21500;49050659]Having owned all three of these, I will say this; they are each great at their own thing.
As far as accuracy goes, the M14 is probably the best, unless you turn your PTR91 into an MSG-90 or PSG1 clone. That being said, stock PTR91s can out shoot stock M1As (having few moving parts around the barrel is a plus).
FALs aren't particularly accurate compared to the other two and suffer from vertical stringing as they warm up. Just remember that they are basically an SVT40/ SKS with superior ergonomics.
PTR/HK clones don't have particularly good triggers, and neither do FALs; AFAIK, only the PTR91 and the M1A have match grade trigger options, with the M1A having much cheaper and more common match triggers and a better stock trigger.
All three have peep sights, although the M1As are the most adjustable and match sights are available.
The PTR's rear sight is windage adjustable by loosening a screw and moving the whole sight side to side. It is also elevation adjustable by depressing the inside of the sight drum and rotating.
The FAL's rear sight is windage adjustable by drifting it with a hammer, and it has pre set elevation adjustment; minor elevation adjustment being adjusted by rotating the front sight akin to an AR-15.
Some DSA FALs seem to have too short a rear sight or too tall a front post, having to rotate it until it bottoms out and then it is still shooting low at 25yds. There are several heights of available rear sight replacements, regular Belgian pattern, which DSA uses, one is Israeli (medium height), another is the L1A1, being the tallest.
FAL has the best ergos of the three, with a BHO function and mag release behind the magwell and operable by the firing hand, left side charging handle and a thumb selector.
M1A has right side charging handle, poor safety placement and a terrible BHO button, but a decent paddle mag release
PTR91 has no automatic BHO, and charging/BHO function can be tiresome or difficult with short arms; has a thumb selector and a paddle mag release or button, the latter is difficult to reach if your firing had is small.
All have rock and lock mags; 20rd FAL and M1A mags go for $25 (used FAL mags, new Checkmate M1A mags), with the 20rd HK mags being the cheapest at $4 a mag for aluminum versions.
The M1A and the FAL are both ammunition sensitive; the M1A to heavy bullet weights bending the op rod, and the FAL to steel cased ammo rupturing due to lack of case support similar to a glock chamber.
PTR91 eats anything and can be a bit hard on brass, so why not shoot steel?
M1A can be card on the case rims
FAL is the best on brass due to an adjustable gas system.
The FAL and PTR are both easy to field strip, the FAL a bit more so, having only a push lever to hinge it open as opposed to the takedown pins of the PTR. Sometimes you must fight with the PTR bolt to re align it properly and be able to re insert it into the receiver.
The M1A is more complicated in it's takedown.
the FAL is the easiest to clean, simply hinge open, remove dust cover and bolt carrier and the receiver and chamber are wide open. The M1A has an exposed bolt carrier and chamber which is easy enough to clean unless you have a receiver side scope mount.
Trying to clean a PTR is akin to cleaning the inside of a soda can with a Q-tip; the chamber is particularly recessed and difficult to clean well without the aid of cleaning spray.
The M1A has three optics mounting options, a side rail mount over the action, a scout mount or a cantilever mount over the action.
The PTR has two, either a claw mount or using a welded on 1913 picatinny rail.
The FAL has two, either a railed dustcover attached with screws or a scout mount on a railed forend.
All three can mount bipods, although it is recommended that you use a modern bipod for accuracy's sake, as opposed to the originals.
All three rifles are in the neighborhood of 9 or so pounds, and all three rifles have odd muzzle threads, with the M1A most likely having the most muzzle devices available.
Springfield M1A receivers are cast, as are Fulton Armory's, and I know there are forged receivers offered by LRB and SEI.
DSA FALs use aluminum lower receivers and steel uppers, PTRs naturally use an all stamped steel receiver, with the lower generally being polymer up until now, as they offer steel lowers.
You can get a new PTR for under $1000 while you'll be lucky to get a new M1A for under $1400 and a new DSA FAL for $1500-1700.[/QUOTE]
When it comes down to it, cost to value is a big factor for battle rifles. I would buy a PTR91 variant before I buy another M1A that doesn't really run that well.
None of the 3 are bad, but you get the most value out of a PTR over a $1,000+ DSA or a $1,300 bottom of the barrel M1A
I'd go for the PTR91 just out of value. Cheaper mags, can come with rail welded from Atlantic Firearms, and can run with the crappiest steel ammo. If an optics mount is needed, there are some low-profile mounts for $115. Get an entire rifle with optic and mags for the price of an entry level M1a.
I think the recoil issue people have with the G3 pattern rifles is blown out of proportion.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;49056643]I'd go for the PTR91 just out of value. Cheaper mags, can come with rail welded from Atlantic Firearms, and can run with the crappiest steel ammo. If an optics mount is needed, there are some low-profile mounts for $115. Get an entire rifle with optic and mags for the price of an entry level M1a.
I think the recoil issue people have with the G3 pattern rifles is blown out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
Just a reminder for everyone, surplus mags run out eventually and then go up in price, just like surplus ammo (.303 and soon to be 7.62x54r). No one says you have to own the gun that those mags go to, so buy them cheap and stack them deep as a nice little investment.
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Got some more bakelite:
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The family
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Shot my Glock 19 today. Got pegged in the face within the first couple magazines. I went to change the extractor to the APEX Gen 3 extractor I was sent but I lost the firing pin safety spring and by the time I found it it was too dark to keep shooting.
Gotta go tomorrow and play around with it more. Either I've got to live with it or contact Glock and ask for a brand new G19 which in NY means I gotta do a shitload of paper work.
Also I've determined that my Kel-Tec KSG is not cycling correctly, not even with high brass now. So I gotta call them too and see if they'll take it back and fix that too.
It's going to start snowing soon and than it's going to be too cold and too much of a pain in the ass to hike up to my shooting range and I won't be able to play with these things until Spring. FUCK.
Anyone know what the best bang for your buck laser sight is that would fit on a Glock 17? I would like to get one just to have honestly but I have no idea whats good as far as anything regarding scopes or lasers.
[QUOTE=Npc_Hydra3;49058286]Anyone know what the best bang for your buck laser sight is that would fit on a Glock 17? I would like to get one just to have honestly but I have no idea whats good as far as anything regarding scopes or lasers.[/QUOTE]
Crimson Trace is your friend for this. They make grips and mounts that don't add much bulk to the gun all of which have built in lasers.
[QUOTE=Npc_Hydra3;49058286]Anyone know what the best bang for your buck laser sight is that would fit on a Glock 17? I would like to get one just to have honestly but I have no idea whats good as far as anything regarding scopes or lasers.[/QUOTE]
The lasermax micro is alright. it's not the most durable but it's pretty low profile and holds its zero for under $130.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;49044091]Polytechs might be worth a grand, but they don't hold a candle to a springfield in terms of quality (cast fake flash hider? yeah no).
The PTR's are great rifles and you can get mags for them dirt cheap compared to the M1A. A lot of them use match barrels from the get go and they're fairly accurate for all the crap sitting on the barrel. DSA's are pretty legit too, much better than the shit century put out using hesse receivers.[/QUOTE]
Hm, I was looking at getting a bolt gun for hunting, but a good new bolt gun really isn't that much cheaper than a PTR.
.308 is fine for whatever I'm hunting, though I am in bear territory. I wonder how it is for defense against brown bears. Surely 20 rounds of .308 in a semi auto configuration is enough. I carry bear spray, but that takes a second to swap to.
[QUOTE=GunFox;49060108]Hm, I was looking at getting a bolt gun for hunting, but a good new bolt gun really isn't that much cheaper than a PTR.
.308 is fine for whatever I'm hunting, though I am in bear territory. I wonder how it is for defense against brown bears. Surely 20 rounds of .308 in a semi auto configuration is enough. I carry bear spray, but that takes a second to swap to.[/QUOTE]
As long as you don't suck at handling recoil, it would be perfectly adequate for dropping a brown bear.
[QUOTE=GunFox;49060108]Hm, I was looking at getting a bolt gun for hunting, but a good new bolt gun really isn't that much cheaper than a PTR.
.308 is fine for whatever I'm hunting, though I am in bear territory. I wonder how it is for defense against brown bears. Surely 20 rounds of .308 in a semi auto configuration is enough. I carry bear spray, but that takes a second to swap to.[/QUOTE]
Buy ammo with an SST or AMAX bullet, it'll work just fine.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;49051398]
I'm really having a hard time justifying which gun to pick up next. I have my Glock 20 which I could carry in my truck, but I feel like the 10mm is too much for anything 2 legged and that I should get the Glock 19 I want next.
But at the same time, I have not a single long gun to my name ( except a R700 in .243 ) in case I would need something long. Which makes me want to buy a shotgun, buuuuut then comes the argument of most shooting scenarios happen within 20 yards.
Seriously leaning towards the Glock right now just for practicality sake.[/QUOTE]
10mm isn't really too much for 2 legged predators if you aren't carrying the hottest loads available (Underwood, Buffalo Bore, etc.), it's pretty much just a .40 S&W. That being said, looking at the gel tests of the Underwood with 155gr Gold Dot hollow points, you aren't going to worry about over pen as the bullets were designed for .40 cal speeds and they tend to come apart inside the target.
You could get an AK pistol and arm brace it for a truck gun and carry the G20, then you technically have a "rifle" in pistol configuration that would be very handy and fires an effective cartridge out to 200yds with a short barrel. There is plenty of modern defensive/hunting ammo in 7.62x39 now as well; Winchester PDX 1 Defender, Federal Fusion and Hornady SST come to mind.
A 16" barreled AR is also a good choice for a long gun, as was previously stated, and with the right defensive ammo it won't over penetrate your target or your house.
This morning I finished re-doing the wood furniture on my PW87. Pretty happy with how it turned out.
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Such a simple and good looking gun.
FINALLY
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Got it back from Glock and it was still pegging me in the face. I put in the APEX Extractor I got from them and today I shot 400 rounds out of my Glock and not a single one of them hit me at all. Not even off my shoulder. Decent ejection, most of the shells were in a neat pile two feet to my right.
I had to use a Gen 3 APEX Extractor. The APEX Gen 4 didn't work at all. I don't know why but I'm just happy it's finally done. I used a variety of ammunition too. UMC, Blazer Brass and Winchester White Box. The Blazer ammunition was by far the worst but regardless none of the shells hit me regardless manufacturer and it was all 115gr target loads.
Now I gotta figure out how to polish the chamber in my KSG so I can run more than premium high brass through it without it jamming up.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;49061400]Buy ammo with an SST or AMAX bullet, it'll work just fine.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
10mm isn't really too much for 2 legged predators if you aren't carrying the hottest loads available (Underwood, Buffalo Bore, etc.), it's pretty much just a .40 S&W. That being said, looking at the gel tests of the Underwood with 155gr Gold Dot hollow points, you aren't going to worry about over pen as the bullets were designed for .40 cal speeds and they tend to come apart inside the target.
You could get an AK pistol and arm brace it for a truck gun and carry the G20, then you technically have a "rifle" in pistol configuration that would be very handy and fires an effective cartridge out to 200yds with a short barrel. There is plenty of modern defensive/hunting ammo in 7.62x39 now as well; Winchester PDX 1 Defender, Federal Fusion and Hornady SST come to mind.
A 16" barreled AR is also a good choice for a long gun, as was previously stated, and with the right defensive ammo it won't over penetrate your target or your house.[/QUOTE]
I always forget that they make lighter 10mm loads, I'm so used to buying full power ammo.
I guess I should buy 3 extra mags and some lighter 10mm hollow points, cause my current 3 are loaded with full power 180 grain for when I'm out at my deer lease. From there I can just mark the mags and keep them separated.
Any anyone got experience with a Vektor SP1?
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I have shot the Vektor Z-88 which is acopy of the Beretta 92F. I really liked how it shot, although the grip was just slightly too large, so that I could not work the magazine release without moving my hand ever so slightly.
I'm quite a tall guy with somewhat large hands, but having to shift the grip slightly to get to some of the controls might get a bit annoying if you want to shoot it competitively at some point.
Also I'm seriously considering getting a Hämmerli 208. They are among some of the best .22lr target pistols that I have ever shot, and I want to get one of my own so I can mess with the barrel weights, grip, trigger and sights all I want.
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Ran 25 of these through my 1924 M10 as fast as I could. It hurt.
Also shot the K98 some more. Grabbed some Norinco ammo for my C96 because I'm jonesing to shoot it again, but the outdoor range closed early so I didn't get to shoot it.
I ran through a whole federal bulk pack today without a single malfunction other than a ftf that was my fault
So... Gatpunch.... I'm thinking it's IPSA time again here soon....
I gots a new toy...
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Whelp. I went into Academy Sports today with the intent to look at a XDs but... who could turn down a Kimber?
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Should I look into some custom stuff for my M9? It's all stock aside from it being a "commemorative" gun. Some wood grips and a steel recoil spring rod seems like a good start, but are there any good sources for custom parts that I can install myself?
[QUOTE=Whibble;49066368]Whelp. I went into Academy Sports today with the intent to look at a XDs but... who could turn down a Kimber?
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That in .380? I was looking at Kimbers myself
The Kimber website says they only come in .45ACP
So, 5 round magazine?
[QUOTE=ksenior;49066834]The Kimber website says they only come in .45ACP
So, 5 round magazine?[/QUOTE]
Probably double-stack, so probably 10.
Nope. 7 round single stack .45 ACP
Is that 6+1 or 7+1?
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