Firearms XII; Because Merica - General

That's actually kind of cool. The first Commie legal AR-15 I've seen that doesn't look ridiculous. [editline]22nd May 2015[/editline] Too bad the lower is $500

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47777248]Still, would rather use my pistol(s) for self defense in my home than my rifle. My house has a lot of hallways and doorways and my rifle would just be too cumbersome (18" barrel) Maybe if I had something more compact like a bullpup rifle I could see using it but as it stands I'd probably hit my rifle's barrel on every wall attempting to use it in the semi-panicked "Oh god the door got kicked in at 3am" self defense scenario[/QUOTE] I really don't find handguns any more maneuverable than my AR indoors. It just seems far more useful in that sort of scenario because it's much more stable, I don't have to worry about sight alignment, and any nervous or panicked trigger breaks probably aren't going to send the muzzle towards some sporadic location.

[QUOTE=NateLB;47779670]I live in Indiana, and we do have castle doctrine, but as has been all over the news any time there is a justifiable shooting, the "victim" or "victims family" sue anyways. I also have this insane fear with my pistol for some reason, I do perfectly fine on paper with it, nothing AMAZING, but it gets the job done on center mass (which yes, that's what I aim for), but I have an extreme fear that if I do get into a situation that I do need to draw my pistol and defend myself or someone else that I'm just going to be unable to retain any sort of accuracy. I don't know why I have this fear, but it's there, so I would rather use a shotgun in home defense with 000 buckshot which I highly doubt someone is going to survive that when it hits them in the chest at indoor ranges, it's going to pelt their heart/lungs.[/QUOTE] Does your state not protect you from lawsuits in the event of a home invasion defensive shooting? Florida does. Victim nor victim's family can sue the shooter if they were invading the shooter's home or vehicle.

I found a telescoping baton for sale at an anime convention. I wasn't entirely sure they were legal here.

Went hiking this weekend and had to wade through waist deep water. Forgot I was CC'ing and now my pistol is a tiny bit rusty (didn't notice until 18~ hours later). The thought came, "why don't I spend this summer's fun budget on an 'adventure' gun?". Suggestions, anyone? Something of the pistol variety, meant to take a shit load of stress. It may just be a glock, but anything else would be greatly appreciated. Smallest caliber would be 38 S&W. The goal is to find something that can take a beating from the elements and not fail.

Really, any modern firearm will do fine, so long as it's a good quality company. What is the budget you have available and are you worried about CCing it or can OC work if it's something to take when hiking/hunting/outdoors-ey stuff?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47782756][URL="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/22/ares-scr-is-now-new-york-city-approved/"]The ARES SCR is officially legal in NYC.[/URL] NYC. Because it's not as black and scary.[/QUOTE] "It is only a matter of time before someone tries to mount the ARES AMG-2 upper onto an SCR lower, which if it works would create the most identity-confused black rifle of all time." I for one really want to see this...

[QUOTE=mastoner20;47784370]Really, any modern firearm will do fine, so long as it's a good quality company. What is the budget you have available and are you worried about CCing it or can OC work if it's something to take when hiking/hunting/outdoors-ey stuff?[/QUOTE] I mainly just want to justify buying another pistol. My current CC (Kel-Tec PF9) was only 300~. I'd also like to have a pistol that I've weathered from average use myself. My friends know I have a problem babying my firearms, so I'd like this one to tell a story.

[QUOTE=credesniper;47784189]Went hiking this weekend and had to wade through waist deep water. Forgot I was CC'ing and now my pistol is a tiny bit rusty (didn't notice until 18~ hours later). The thought came, "why don't I spend this summer's fun budget on an 'adventure' gun?". Suggestions, anyone? Something of the pistol variety, meant to take a shit load of stress. It may just be a glock, but anything else would be greatly appreciated. Smallest caliber would be 38 S&W. The goal is to find something that can take a beating from the elements and not fail.[/QUOTE] Presumably you want something that won't rust easily? I think chrome looks a bit douchey but there is no doubt it stops you guns from rusting.

Cerakoting is an option for rust prevention.

I've heard the old argument hat revolvers are more reliable than magazine fed semi-automatic pistols. Is that even true anymore?

Most revolvers I've handled have been fine but they are all prone to timing issues that can render the gun unsafe to fire, beyond just not working. My SAA has been plagued with pawl-related timing issues since the original arm finally gave up. If the hammer falls while the cylinder isn't fully locked it can create a potentially dangerous situation. And on the other hand, the first commercially successful semi automatic pistol is also the most reliable I've ever used - my C96 has only jammed on me once and it wasn't the gun's fault. It will work fine until the bolt stop eventually fails and the bolt buries itself in my skull via my eye socket. What it really boils down to is the condition of the gun and in semi-autos, the quality and power of ammunition. Most guns that are kept in good condition and fed the right stuff will work fine as long as you take care of them.

Mechanically, yeah. There's a lot less issues to go wrong with a revolver than a magazine. Especially if you're in rugged terrain and the magazines often get bumped and beaten against hard things.

[QUOTE=credesniper;47784618]I've heard the old argument hat revolvers are more reliable than magazine fed semi-automatic pistols. Is that even true anymore?[/QUOTE] Not any more, really. Most polymer framed handguns would beat out revolvers in nearly every category.

Accuracy in real world shootings and the frequency with which handgun rounds fail to stop people make revolvers a terrible choice. Mechanically the reliability benefits are marginal at best.

[QUOTE=credesniper;47784189]Went hiking this weekend and had to wade through waist deep water. Forgot I was CC'ing and now my pistol is a tiny bit rusty (didn't notice until 18~ hours later). The thought came, "why don't I spend this summer's fun budget on an 'adventure' gun?". Suggestions, anyone? Something of the pistol variety, meant to take a shit load of stress. It may just be a glock, but anything else would be greatly appreciated. Smallest caliber would be 38 S&W. The goal is to find something that can take a beating from the elements and not fail.[/QUOTE] My "adventure gun" (see: open carry pistol for outdoor activities where florida allows open carry) is a Ruger GP100 with the Hogue Rosewood Grips [t]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5b1blAb4E1qag72ho1_1280.jpg[/t] (Not mine, but this is exactly what it looks like) I love this pistol. It's fantastic. Fun to shoot, very accurate, very balanced. My mother had a Ruger Security 6 with a 6" barrel (mine is a 4") that she gave to me when she passed. Gonna put some nice hogue wood grips on it when I can afford it and burn her name and dob/dod into the handle. I also really want to get a Sig P226 in .357 Sig but that's a bit out of my price range atm.

I bought a Versacarry holster today. I've been trying not to buy things before my eggs hatch, since there is a chance I won't get my CCW but I think it's likely I will. The holster was only $20 and I wanted SOMETHING so I could carry my Glock 19 as soon as I get. I ideally do not want to carry something that big but if I buy a Bodyguard I have to wait 2~ Months before I can pick it up because I have to have it amended. So I want something in the meantime to carry around, even if it's my Glock 19. And if I don't get my CCW than it's a non-issue. I won't buy anything except more ammunition.

[QUOTE=credesniper;47784618]I've heard the old argument hat revolvers are more reliable than magazine fed semi-automatic pistols. Is that even true anymore?[/QUOTE] Sure but the advantage a revolver has in reliability today is absolutely marginal. I've got around 3,000-4,000 rounds through my USP-40. I've fired high-end brass case, low end steel case, and bottom of the barrel gunshow reloads through it, and I have not had a single failure. Never failed to feed, failed to fire, or failed to extract.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47785575]Sure but the advantage a revolver has in reliability today is absolutely marginal. I've got around 3,000-4,000 rounds through my USP-40. I've fired high-end brass case, low end steel case, and bottom of the barrel gunshow reloads through it, and I have not had a single failure. Never failed to feed, failed to fire, or failed to extract.[/QUOTE] It's more in the sense of price to reliability. A Ruger GP100 at $550 is going to be more reliable than an M9 or something like that(at least in my experience), but a $800-$1000 USP is likely going to be better than both. As a comparison, i've never had a single issue with any revolver that i've shot, yet i've had 30-40 jams with my new M9, and zero with my 20+ year old USP-9.

I would guess a Glock has the best money to reliability ratio

[QUOTE=download;47786714]I would guess a Glock has the best money to reliability ratio[/QUOTE] It's also one of the easiest pistols to maintain that I've seen.

[QUOTE=zombini;47786697]It's more in the sense of price to reliability. A Ruger GP100 at $550 is going to be more reliable than an M9 or something like that(at least in my experience), but a $800-$1000 USP is likely going to be better than both. As a comparison, i've never had a single issue with any revolver that i've shot, yet i've had 30-40 jams with my new M9, and zero with my 20+ year old USP-9.[/QUOTE] Increased price doesn't necessarily mean increased reliability, and decreased price doesn't necessarily mean increased reliability. For example, Taurus makes shit guns at ghetto prices, and Canik makes great guns at ghetto pricing. Chiappa makes the Rhino at a round $800-$1,000 depending on the model, and it's a high end piece of unreliable trash. [editline]23rd May 2015[/editline] Theres not really any situation where you should trust your life to a revolver anymore. It's not the wild west anymore where everyone is restricted to 6 shots. You've got guns now that have 19+1 capacity in 9mm and 14+1 in 45. Theres no reason to buy a revolver for self defense anymore. A marginal decrease in reliability is a bullshit reason to avoid semiautomatics. Even if you want a magnum revolver for self defense; you can get 357 sig loads that replicate 127gr 357 magnum. Theres no sensible or logical reason to use a revolver for self defense anymore.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/UImSh61.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/Mkv5F7G.jpg[/t] My shoulder hurts. A lot. 30-06 still has nothing on 8mm Mauser.

How are the fixed sights on that fiveseven? I have adjustable sights on mine, but they are crap and I want to get a smith to swap them out.

Amazing. Even while burning it, I could keep a really decent sight picture.

Pretty sound guy at work keeps dropping hints that if I'm around when management isn't looking then maybe he will let me fire a few rounds from the Heckler & Koch 40mm Grenade MG. As long as it's part of the testing he was going to do anyway. Hnng.

Where the fuck do you work?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;47789194]Where the fuck do you work?[/QUOTE] I'm a Pyrotechnic Technician for the MoD which isn't as cool as it sounds

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47785575]Sure but the advantage a revolver has in reliability today is absolutely marginal. I've got around 3,000-4,000 rounds through my USP-40. I've fired high-end brass case, low end steel case, and bottom of the barrel gunshow reloads through it, and I have not had a single failure. Never failed to feed, failed to fire, or failed to extract.[/QUOTE] Revolvers still have their place. For example you can't limp wrist a revolver and cause a jam like you can a semi-auto.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;47790085]Revolvers still have their place. For example you can't limp wrist a revolver and cause a jam like you can a semi-auto.[/QUOTE] Thats a bullshit reason and you know it. Any competent shooter isn't going to limp wrist unless he's disabled or something. Like I mentioned in my post you quoted, I have never had a jam with my USP due to limp wristing because I'm not an incompetent schlock. Seriously, the disadvantages of a revolver far outnumber the advantages. The only 2 advantages I can see is that they very rarely jam (as long as the cylinder is properly aligned) and you get access to some overkill magnum calibers. The advantages of a semi-automatic with a competent shooter far outnumber the handful of disadvantages. There is literally no reason to choose a revolver for self defense in 2015. It's like choosing a horse as your main transportation because hay is cheaper than gasoline. [editline]24th May 2015[/editline] Seriously, I can't stand how the US gun communities hopelessly cling on to outdated trash for the sake of tradition.