Firearms XII; Because Merica - General

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47889523]What? That sounds dumb? Why the fuck not? That being said, if you buy saboted bullets for muzzleloaders you're an idiot. They're SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE. I cast my own lead bullets for my muzzleloader and even after buying the mold and drop furnace it was like 10x cheaper than buying as many saboted bullets as I could make with the lead I bought.[/QUOTE] They may cost 2 bucks a shot but some of them look pretty cool. [img]http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w581/FrontierMuzzleloading/Bullets/fed_bor_lock_f_zpsedab4af1.jpg[/img] I'm guessing you'd use something like that in a smokeless muzzleloader.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47889603]They may cost 2 bucks a shot but some of them look pretty cool. [img]http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w581/FrontierMuzzleloading/Bullets/fed_bor_lock_f_zpsedab4af1.jpg[/img] I'm guessing you'd use something like that in a smokeless muzzleloader.[/QUOTE] You can use them in any muzzleloader, but sabots are just for people with more money than sense, or people who think they need more than 300+ grains of pure lead to kill a deer. The same kind of people that would argue "muh expansion" and "muh jacketed hollowpoints" and stupid shit like that. I cast and fire these: [t]https://traditionsfirearms.com/data/catalog/products/images/189/400_400/ultimate-conical-bullets.jpg[/t] 360 grains. There's not a game animal on this continent that that wouldn't take down.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47888580]I'm sorry to hear that. [editline]6th June 2015[/editline] Anyone remember which FPer it was that owned a PT1911, and it basically chipped itself away and slowly destroyed itself, despite being sent back to the factory like 3 times?[/QUOTE] Mine had the front sight wiggle off the first time I took it out to the range.

Anyone ever find it odd how used glocks and WASR10's are usually (apparently) worth about $100 more than retail glocks and WASR's?

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47891030]Anyone ever find it odd how used glocks and WASR10's are usually (apparently) worth about $100 more than retail glocks and WASR's?[/QUOTE] It's even worse in the land of Assachusetts. $700 for a used Gen 2 G17 with two used mags. I was lucky to get my G22 police trade in for $380.

How long should I wait before calling the gunsmith to see why he hasn't called me about the shotgun I left with him? He's had it for a week (two weeks technically but he got trapped in Houston due to flood) and supposedly he was going to get on it the day I dropped it off. I'm guessing if it needed parts it'd take a few days to ship them, so I was going to call next Wednesday if he hadn't got back to me yet, but I don't want to badger him either. I don't know how long these things take.

If he said he'd get to it when you dropped it off and it's been two weeks it's perfectly fair to bug the shit out of him about it.

Any of you /k/omrades going to Nuggestfest this year? This years it's in Pensfield, Pennsylvania.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;47892749]How long should I wait before calling the gunsmith to see why he hasn't called me about the shotgun I left with him? He's had it for a week (two weeks technically but he got trapped in Houston due to flood) and supposedly he was going to get on it the day I dropped it off. I'm guessing if it needed parts it'd take a few days to ship them, so I was going to call next Wednesday if he hadn't got back to me yet, but I don't want to badger him either. I don't know how long these things take.[/QUOTE] A gunsmith once worked on my RPK for over 90 days.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47893412]If he said he'd get to it when you dropped it off and it's been two weeks it's perfectly fair to bug the shit out of him about it.[/QUOTE] He was supposed to be coming back the morning I dropped it off at the store, but ended up trapped in Houston because of the floods and didn't get back until last Saturday, and was supposed to get to work on it then, so I'm only counting it as one week of him actually having it. They're also doing it for free (it was broke when I bought it from them) so I don't want to be too much of an annoyance, but I also want to make sure it didn't get stuck in a closet somewhere and forgotten about.

If you bought it broke and part of the purchasing agreement was "We'll fix the broken shit for free" then there's literally no way you can be a true annoyance. Call about your gun dude.

Just picked up a second Kel-tec sub2000 (this one in .40S&W, other one is 9mm) also ordered a sig sp2022 with night sights, and a walther ppk/s in .22lr

I really liked my Kel-Tec Sub2000. I had the glock 9mm version and had one of those 50rd drums for it and the aluminum railed fore-end. For the life of me I don't remember why I traded it for a Mossberg 930 SPX and then traded the Mossberg 930 SPX + a replica uzi for an FN FNAR then traded the FN FNAR for an AR-15 now I hate the AR-15 and want to trade it for something else. Anyone in Florida want an AR-15? :v:

What kinda ar lol

A Stag 3T w/ a 12" fore-end and a bunch of other shit and ammo.

I've got an old high standard 12ga pump I'm trying to get rid of. Straight trade? It's the nicest shotgun ever, I mean they only build them to [I]high standards[/I].

[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;47896257]I've got an old high standard 12ga pump I'm trying to get rid of. Straight trade? It's the nicest shotgun ever, I mean they only build them to [I]high standards[/I].[/QUOTE] Har har har

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47896216]A Stag 3T w/ a 12" fore-end and a bunch of other shit and ammo.[/QUOTE] Watcha lookin to get for it. I'm always interested in making bad decisions, like buying an AR.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47896464]Watcha lookin to get for it. I'm always interested in making bad decisions, like buying an AR.[/QUOTE] Well I have it listed for $1100 with a 12" free float handguard, afg, mbus flip up front/rear sight, bcm low profile gas block, 11 mags (9 30rders and 2 5rders) and 600-700 rounds of brass magtech ammo. I already dropped the price a couple times but I'm not getting any messages from armslist, not sure what's going on. Either AR's are extremely unpopular right now or they're filtering messages for spam like motherfuckers.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47897986]Well I have it listed for $1100 with a 12" free float handguard, afg, mbus flip up front/rear sight, bcm low profile gas block, 11 mags (9 30rders and 2 5rders) and 600-700 rounds of brass magtech ammo. I already dropped the price a couple times but I'm not getting any messages from armslist, not sure what's going on. Either AR's are extremely unpopular right now or they're filtering messages for spam like motherfuckers.[/QUOTE] If I weren't in the process of moving out of state I'd probably pick it up. I need a reliable SHTF gun and these odd ball guns I keep buying aren't cutting it. I honestly think the AR market is just absolutely flooded right now, especially in Florida. Unless you're selling it for pennies on the dollar, its gonna be hard to sell it, which is another reason I haven't picked up an AR because once it's out of the box, it's a dime a dozen.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47896161] Anyone in Florida want an AR-15? :v:[/QUOTE] I'll give ya a Mosin for it... :P

Rant incoming So I've been selling, buying and trading guns for a while now. One thing I keep running into while selling AR-15's is what I refer to as High school graduates with their saved up lunch money from all the years. Its simple, I post an ad selling a AR-15 that has a MSRP of usually 800-1000 dollars. I immediately get a few responses. Usually some fuckheads that like to Low ball because they think a used gun is immediately worth half their value. AKA they have no idea how guns inflate in value or decrease in value. Or idiots who want to trade their beat up shitty gun for a practically brand new gun, then get upset when you tell them no. Then I get responses from the another whole level of stupid - 18 year old high school kids who respond and practically say "I'll give you 400 cash for it, deal?." I ask them what in the world makes them think this gun is worth 400 dollars. They can't articulate how and get upset when I tell them the upper receiver is worth 400 alone without the BCG. Then they proceed to ask me what a BCG is. Then these kids try to lecture me on how they can build a AR-15 for 500 dollars, I tell them have it it then cause the thing is gonna be shit. It isn't like one isolated incident, I get these kinds of replies all the fucking time and I'm pretty much getting sick of it. They're almost as bad as the "well i can get this gun online for x amount of money." I've gotten to the point on my ads that I outright tell people if you have no interest in purchasing this gun don't bother speaking to me. I also say don't bother talking to me if you can't even come close to my price in cash or trade value. People forget about the fee's associated and the time you put in to build these guns.

On the flip side MR-X, don't expect anyone other than a felon to buy a used gun for MSRP cost. Most people would rather spend the extra $60 in taxes and forms to get an actual new gun, not one thats *probably* only slightly used, instead of taking the risk of buying a used gun thats being sold because its a broken piece of shit. I understand where you're coming from with people lowballing you, I know what its like. I've given up on selling certain guns because the only offers I got were for PS4's and Kayaks. But you can't really expect to sell a used gun for MSRP cost or just barely under MSRP cost. If people can buy a gun online, new and cheaper, then whats that say about your pricing? You shouldn't buy or sell something unless you're prepared to take a loss. And thats another reason I won't get into AR-15's, because they're borderline unsalable unless you sell them for fractions of what you paid for it. AR-15's are a dime a dozen and you can get ones comparable in quality to some overpriced bullshit for half the cost. The market is flooded, the market is convoluted, most people are overpaying and refuse to drop on price to cover their loss, and you've also got the whole issue of franken-AR's. If you buy an AR, prepare to hold onto it forever.

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;47898510]I'll give ya a Mosin for it... :P[/QUOTE] Not even for 10 mosins lol

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47900322]On the flip side MR-X, don't expect anyone other than a felon to buy a used gun for MSRP cost. Most people would rather spend the extra $60 in taxes and forms to get an actual new gun, not one thats *probably* only slightly used, instead of taking the risk of buying a used gun thats being sold because its a broken piece of shit. I understand where you're coming from with people lowballing you, I know what its like. I've given up on selling certain guns because the only offers I got were for PS4's and Kayaks. But you can't really expect to sell a used gun for MSRP cost or just barely under MSRP cost. If people can buy a gun online, new and cheaper, then whats that say about your pricing? You shouldn't buy or sell something unless you're prepared to take a loss. And thats another reason I won't get into AR-15's, because they're borderline unsalable unless you sell them for fractions of what you paid for it. AR-15's are a dime a dozen and you can get ones comparable in quality to some overpriced bullshit for half the cost. The market is flooded, the market is convoluted, most people are overpaying and refuse to drop on price to cover their loss, and you've also got the whole issue of franken-AR's. If you buy an AR, prepare to hold onto it forever.[/QUOTE] My point out of all it is if that is the price that is the price, don't like it move on. Don't waste peoples time low balling or trying to trade useless shit that you had sitting in a closet for god knows how long. Just a pet peeve of mine. Also just because a gun is used does not mean it is worth nothing, its all about the condition of the gun itself and the functionality. If i fire a gun 10 times to do a functionality test it does not equal to half of its value. People just want shit for nothing, trading forums are filled these types of people. And about the whole online thing is this - people often say well "walmart has that gun for this much and it is cheaper." Well, the gun model i got has higher quality parts vs the walmart one, which are known for having cheap parts. Guess my whole motto to this is, if you're not interested in paying even close to the asking price of someones ad don't even the persons time by responding with low ball offers and asking to trade junk.

Very few guns will net you a profit. Unless you can find a collector or some one with too much money to burn, you will have to settle for less. Hold onto the AR and just make it your own. Buy new uppers or other calibers and keep it.

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;47900725]Very few guns will net you a profit. Unless you can find a collector or some one with too much money to burn, you will have to settle for less. Hold onto the AR and just make it your own. Buy new uppers or other calibers and keep it.[/QUOTE] I dislike the platform entirely. Very much so. And I can't afford to upgrade/modify it to something I'll like.

So anyone hear anything about this crap the NRA is saying where Obama wants to ban gun-related videos under ITAR and send gun vloggers to prison for 20 years? [url]https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150605/stop-obamas-planned-gag-order-on-firearm-related-speech[/url]

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47900342]Not even for 10 mosins lol[/QUOTE] What about two full crates of Mosins? XD

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47900342]Not even for 10 mosins lol[/QUOTE] How about a Mosin, a bottle of Stoli, a blue Adidas tracksuit, and crippling poverty? Haven't you always wanted to be a gopnik?