I got a Stoeger Uplander from my uncle a couple years ago. It's a side-by-side, I think they're relatively cheap. It's done me well for trap and just messing around, but I'm sure there's better out there.
Anyone ever shoot a Steyr Aug?
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48024225]Anyone ever shoot a Steyr Aug?[/QUOTE]
Yes. What do you want to know?
[QUOTE=download;48024261]Yes. What do you want to know?[/QUOTE]
How do they compare to other bullpup weapons? I've never fired one before, but I kind of want one of that platform. I've read some things that are making me think that they are one of the better bullpups to get.
I've never fired another bullpup.
As for the Styer? It's not a very good design; the barrel doesn't free float, it's not very moddable, and - I've only fired the military version but the trigger is awful.
Unless you've already got another semi-auto 5.56mm rifle or can't get anything else I'd suggest staying away from it.
[QUOTE=download;48024421]I've never fired another bullpup.
As for the Styer? It's not a very good design; the barrel doesn't free float, it's not very moddable, and - I've only fired the military version but the trigger is awful.
Unless you've already got another semi-auto 5.56mm rifle or can't get anything else I'd suggest staying away from it.[/QUOTE]
Well I have an AR15 which is obviously .223 so it would make sense as far as that goes. No free float barrel is kinda stupid though.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48024401]How do they compare to other bullpup weapons? I've never fired one before, but I kind of want one of that platform. I've read some things that are making me think that they are one of the better bullpups to get.[/QUOTE]
They are good, and there is a "Nato" version that takes USGI and PMags, but they are also nose heavy when compared to the Tavor and FS2000.
Currently, the Tavor enjoys an expanding offering of aftermarket accessories and it takes USGI and PMags straight out of the box, as well as having multiple aftermarket triggers available.
Quick change barrels on an AUG is a nice feature for cleaning and replacing barrels, but you don't really need it unless you're using it as a SAW.
Yeah I kinda liked the FS2000 too. Decisions decisions...
I also have to buy what's legal in Maryland. (Which is annoying as fuck)
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48024401]How do they compare to other bullpup weapons? I've never fired one before, but I kind of want one of that platform. I've read some things that are making me think that they are one of the better bullpups to get.[/QUOTE]
I've shot Nuke's AUG, amazing gun honestly. Trigger is actually not bad at all, its a hard to figure out where it breaks at first but after like the first 5 times you can get it down pat real easily. Comparing it to the Bushmaster M17s I owned, it was far far far better.
Wouldn't know how it compares to an FS2k or a Tavor, but I'm sure it's very comparable to them. If I were to buy a bullpup, I'd buy an FS2k, but considering they're not in production anymore and the pricing on them isn't really reasonable, I'd buy a Steyr Aug first.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;48025347]I've shot Nuke's AUG, amazing gun honestly. Trigger is actually not bad at all, its a hard to figure out where it breaks at first but after like the first 5 times you can get it down pat real easily. Comparing it to the Bushmaster M17s I owned, it was far far far better.
Wouldn't know how it compares to an FS2k or a Tavor, but I'm sure it's very comparable to them. If I were to buy a bullpup, I'd buy an FS2k, but considering they're not in production anymore and the pricing on them isn't really reasonable, I'd buy a Steyr Aug first.[/QUOTE]
So I take it that they're worth the spend?
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48025401]So I take it that they're worth the spend?[/QUOTE]
If you have the income for it, yea.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48024620]Well I have an AR15 which is obviously .223 so it would make sense as far as that goes. No free float barrel is kinda stupid though.[/QUOTE]
Ar15 rifles are generally 5.56, not .223. There is a difference.
I spent $1500 on my AUG. I love it
Granted I've always wanted once since I was little because of 80s action movies. The trigger isn't the worlds best but once you get familiar with it it's fine. Mine uses Steyr mags which are very nice mags and are $20 a pop. I've never had any problems with mine and have an Aimpoint M2 on it.
I love it
I kinda started liking them honestly after the governor had one in Walking Dead. It's just a unique design.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48022341]I wanna buy a cheap, simple break action double barrel 12 gauge. Accurate enough for casual trap shooting or shooting things for fun.
First question: side by side or over under? pros? cons?
second question: any specific reccomendations?[/QUOTE]
I really enjoy my SxS for the novelty of the thing. It has these big pretty external hammers. Over-under is probably more practical but I don't enjoy shooting junk with the O/U as much as the SxS. Locking back those big old hammers is fun as hell. I would say get a SxS with external hammers if you want cheap and fun, but be aware that before about 1906 a lot of them used damascus steel in the barrels and are only really safe to shoot with low-power black powder loads. Get an over-under if you want simple and practical.
Can you fire both barrels at once on an over under, or does it have a selector? Also in terms of no bells and whistles basic used guns, would a side by side or over under be cheaper?
In most O/Us that I've handled there's one trigger and it fires one after another, I assume with a ratchet. My side by side consists of two separate actions put together in one space, so there are two triggers, two hammers, two firing pins, etc. I have seen one older O/U that was like that, just with internal hammers cocked by opening the action rather than manually.
Older side by sides tend to be cheaper. Personally I feel newer O/Us are way overpriced for what they are, you won't catch me paying $1000 for a Browning O/U when I could get [I]literally anything else[/I] for that price and for all intents and purposes including trap shooting an old shotgun works exactly as well as a new one assuming it works.
On top of that I think old guns are a lot more charming and interesting than new guns. I've found that people at the range are more likely to chat with you if you have an antique out and I've made some valuable friends that way. I had a guy buy me a box of a .303 in exchange for letting him put 5 through my Enfield. :v:
I completely agree. A few years ago I went trap shooting for a friends graduation party. he spent 10 minutes talking up his benelli semi auto, then I beat his ass with my dads old Springfield pump action.
Older shotguns look coler anyways.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48026579]Can you fire both barrels at once on an over under, or does it have a selector? Also in terms of no bells and whistles basic used guns, would a side by side or over under be cheaper?[/QUOTE]
old sxs' are cheap as dicks. I bought one made in the 20's for $80 at a pawnshop.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48026579]Can you fire both barrels at once on an over under, or does it have a selector?[/QUOTE]
It depends on the model. If it uses a recoil/inertia system, there's one trigger, and the impact of recoil selects the next barrel. If it's a double trigger, you pull one trigger and then the other. Or both, if you're so inclined.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48026579]Also in terms of no bells and whistles basic used guns, would a side by side or over under be cheaper?[/QUOTE]
Side by sides tend to be cheaper. There are also very cheap side-by-side coach guns produced by Baikal, Stoeger, and Norinco if you want a no-frills coach gun. If you buy used, be sure you're getting a gun with steel barrels and 2.75" chambers unless you're fine with shooting black powder/2.5" shells respectively.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48026747]In most O/Us that I've handled there's one trigger and it fires one after another, I assume with a ratchet. My side by side consists of two separate actions put together in one space, so there are two triggers, two hammers, two firing pins, etc. I have seen one older O/U that was like that, just with internal hammers cocked by opening the action rather than manually.
Older side by sides tend to be cheaper. Personally I feel newer O/Us are way overpriced for what they are, you won't catch me paying $1000 for a Browning O/U when I could get [I]literally anything else[/I] for that price and for all intents and purposes including trap shooting an old shotgun works exactly as well as a new one assuming it works.
On top of that I think old guns are a lot more charming and interesting than new guns. I've found that people at the range are more likely to chat with you if you have an antique out and I've made some valuable friends that way. I had a guy buy me a box of a .303 in exchange for letting him put 5 through my Enfield. :v:[/QUOTE]
I'd love to pay $1000 for a brand-new Browning O/U, since there's literally none that are that cheap. Thanks to my working at a gunshop, next year I might even be able to do just that with my pro deal, that is, if I'm still working there.
armorer took apart m240 today and it seems there was tooth paste in it
tooth paste or mold but it looked like tooth paste
Would $550 for a lightly used (less than 1000 rounds, but more than 500) US Army Commemorative M9 be a good price? It has the manual, warranty info, black plastic grip plates, green aluminium grip plates, 3 fifteen rnd magazines, and the original factory case.
Not advertising to sell it here, asking if it's worth that much (or more) so I can sell it locally without ripping myself or the buyer off.
[QUOTE=zombini;48029299]Would $550 for a lightly used (less than 1000 rounds, but more than 500) US Army Commemorative M9 be a good price? It has the manual, warranty info, black plastic grip plates, green aluminium grip plates, 3 fifteen rnd magazines, and the original factory case.
Not advertising to sell it here, asking if it's worth that much (or more) so I can sell it locally without ripping myself or the buyer off.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't buy a used M9 for more than $500, commemorative or not, but thats just me. Theres one on GB right now for $525 with no bids, and there was one in my area for near 6 months for $450 that nobody picked up. $550 doesn't seem like a bad price for one but don't expect a quick sell.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;48029319]I wouldn't buy a used M9 for more than $500, commemorative or not, but thats just me. Theres one on GB right now for $525 with no bids, and there was one in my area for near 6 months for $450 that nobody picked up. $550 doesn't seem like a bad price for one but don't expect a quick sell.[/QUOTE]
If it were just the gun and say a single magazine, I'd go in the $450 range, but it has the case and all those other things with it.
[QUOTE=zombini;48029388]If it were just the gun and say a single magazine, I'd go in the $450 range, but it has the case and all those other things with it.[/QUOTE]
Offer $500, see where it goes.
[QUOTE=zombini;48029388]If it were just the gun and say a single magazine, I'd go in the $450 range, but it has the case and all those other things with it.[/QUOTE]
I donno, typically commemorative firearms are something you're supposed to collect and throw in a glass case and not ever touch. Since yours has over 500 rounds down the barrel, it's past the point of being a collectors piece. Having the box and papers wouldn't add much imo.
Going shooting for the first time this Friday. My friend has a handgun and possibly a rifle he's bringing. What do i need to know to prepare, safety tips, etc?
We are doing this at a range not some backyard bullshit.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;48029415]I donno, typically commemorative firearms are something you're supposed to collect and throw in a glass case and not ever touch. Since yours has over 500 rounds down the barrel, it's past the point of being a collectors piece. Having the box and papers wouldn't add much imo.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It was a gift from a relative who bought it without fully understanding that it was supposed to be a collectible. I've had it for a few years and I didn't care about the collectible status of it as it was my first and only handgun up until last year. I just decided to sell it to free up space, as my USP9 is far better and I'd rather have some cash than a gun that I don't use anymore.
I suppose I can start off at $500 and work from there. I felt that $550 may be a bit steep, but the extra magazines and the case are not something that should be considered a freebie with it.
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